GTX 690 to GTX 780/TI?
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sengirman48
June 12, 2014 12:41:07 AM
hey there guys, i am now currently have a gtx 690 running in my rig and i would like to ask an opinion so here it is:
i am happy for the performance of my card but there's one thing that always bothered me.
even though gtx 690 labeled as 4gb vram card but the truth is when playing games it only detected as 2gb vram card.
for example when i was playing titanfall and using the 'insane' setting it gets stuttering a lot. and when playing watch dogs using the ultra texture it does stuttering too.
so i am planning to get myself a gtx 780 (ti or non ti) because the gtx 780 have more vram which is 3gb rather than 2gb that gtx 690 have. do u think guys it is worth it? i am planning to upgrade my card due to gta 5 are releasing soon and i expect that game sure does need a lot of vram.
i am happy for the performance of my card but there's one thing that always bothered me.
even though gtx 690 labeled as 4gb vram card but the truth is when playing games it only detected as 2gb vram card.
for example when i was playing titanfall and using the 'insane' setting it gets stuttering a lot. and when playing watch dogs using the ultra texture it does stuttering too.
so i am planning to get myself a gtx 780 (ti or non ti) because the gtx 780 have more vram which is 3gb rather than 2gb that gtx 690 have. do u think guys it is worth it? i am planning to upgrade my card due to gta 5 are releasing soon and i expect that game sure does need a lot of vram.
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chymera129
June 12, 2014 12:46:10 AM
Are you only interested in nVidia cards?
Ya 780 is great. Purchase that. Do not purchase the 780 ti. Its about 1.5 times costly with a 10-15% performance upgrade, which you can gain by overclocking the normal 780 card also
And if u want to consider other options than nVidia, u can go for the R9 290. it offers even better performance for lesser price
Ya 780 is great. Purchase that. Do not purchase the 780 ti. Its about 1.5 times costly with a 10-15% performance upgrade, which you can gain by overclocking the normal 780 card also
And if u want to consider other options than nVidia, u can go for the R9 290. it offers even better performance for lesser price
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the 690 has 2 gpus in one card sli so yes it is 2 gb per gpu.
wachdogs does have problem people with titans sli have problems with it.you should wait for it to get optimized.
i whuld recomend waiting until 8 series nvidia gpus come out.they will pack tons of preformance per watt.
also wait until gta comes out to see which gpu preforms best.the last gta that came out was poorly optimized for pc.
the 690 until now has realy good preformance better than the 780 and costs more that a 780 so i whould say keep it until nvidia will release its new gpus.you already have a card that preforms x buy a card with the same x preformance for the money that your card already costs?think.
wachdogs does have problem people with titans sli have problems with it.you should wait for it to get optimized.
i whuld recomend waiting until 8 series nvidia gpus come out.they will pack tons of preformance per watt.
also wait until gta comes out to see which gpu preforms best.the last gta that came out was poorly optimized for pc.
the 690 until now has realy good preformance better than the 780 and costs more that a 780 so i whould say keep it until nvidia will release its new gpus.you already have a card that preforms x buy a card with the same x preformance for the money that your card already costs?think.
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No card really runs Watchdogs that well all the time. In particular, stuttering while driving is universal. If you're just having problems in 2 games so far I'd personally just wait and pick up a GTX 880 whenever that hits. There'll probably be 4GB or 6GB versions, and that way you'd probably be able to run DX12 natively, because apparently when DX12 is patched into to DX11 cards they won't get all the features.
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sengirman48
June 12, 2014 1:11:57 AM
hey thanks guys for the respond
also there's one more game that bothered me. its wolfenstein the new order with the gtx 690 i cant get the ultra setting for VT Cache Size. i can't even toggle it the only option i have is high setting. i presume that because the gtx 690 only had 2gb of vram.
so i guess best to wait for the maxwell chip (8 series nvidia) to come out first and not to change my gtx 690 to 780?
also there's one more game that bothered me. its wolfenstein the new order with the gtx 690 i cant get the ultra setting for VT Cache Size. i can't even toggle it the only option i have is high setting. i presume that because the gtx 690 only had 2gb of vram.so i guess best to wait for the maxwell chip (8 series nvidia) to come out first and not to change my gtx 690 to 780?
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Shasha23
June 12, 2014 1:30:52 AM
Shasha23 said:
i7Baby said:
The 690 is 2 x 680's @ 2gb vram.Some people are reporting using 3gb in watch dogs and bf4. You might be better off with a 290 - 4gb!
but that's a down grade, I would never suggest something like that to someone if I was you
@ sengirman48 get a titan
A Titan's not significantly faster than a GTX 780 TI, and will be out of date like any current card as soon as DX12 releases.
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780Ti beats titan. I would not recommend titan over 780Ti. If OP can wait then better check out the upcoming Maxwell series GPUs from nVIDIA else buy 4GB version of various models already in the market. At the end it is OP's call. Even 780Ti beats R9 290x yes not at 4k display because at 4k display R9 290x has an added advantage of more bandwidth 512-bits. Still it is without doubt that 780Ti gives rock solid performance.
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Shasha23
June 12, 2014 2:12:55 AM
Shasha23
June 12, 2014 2:22:25 AM
EasyLover said:
780Ti beats titan. I would not recommend titan over 780Ti. If OP can wait then better check out the upcoming Maxwell series GPUs from nVIDIA else buy 4GB version of various models already in the market. At the end it is OP's call. Even 780Ti beats R9 290x yes not at 4k display because at 4k display R9 290x has an added advantage of more bandwidth 512-bits. Still it is without doubt that 780Ti gives rock solid performance.a 780ti does not beat a titan black, you may have misunderstood me when I said titan
going from a monster like a 690 to a 290x is a down grade really, he should just wait till next year and see if the 880 will be more powerfull than a titan black and get it if it is, also if you want an upgrade don't look at anything except
Titan Black
Titan Z
R9 295X2
anything else will be a downgrade
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Shasha23 said:
Rationale said:
A Titan's not significantly faster than a GTX 780 TI, and will be out of date like any current card as soon as DX12 releases.did you understand my post?
also all 500/600/700 series cards will support DX12 so I don't get your point
direct x 12 will be supported on direct x 11 cards.
gtx 780, titan ,780 ti, titan black, titan z.
the 780 ti preforms better than the titan and costs less but even is someone buys titan for games he will not be able to be benefited fully.titans are not gpu's for games but do good at games.
i would highly recomend not upgrading to a 780 ti because you have nearly the same preformace with the 690.
you will spend 700 $ for the same thing only to get 1 gb more vram to play a not so good optimized game on pc?
guys come on what the hell.whould you spend this money?
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Shasha23 said:
EasyLover said:
780Ti beats titan. I would not recommend titan over 780Ti. If OP can wait then better check out the upcoming Maxwell series GPUs from nVIDIA else buy 4GB version of various models already in the market. At the end it is OP's call. Even 780Ti beats R9 290x yes not at 4k display because at 4k display R9 290x has an added advantage of more bandwidth 512-bits. Still it is without doubt that 780Ti gives rock solid performance.a 780ti does not beat a titan black, you may have misunderstood me when I said titan
going from a monster like a 690 to a 290x is a down grade really, he should just wait till next year and see if the 880 will be more powerfull than a titan black and get it if it is, also if you want an upgrade don't look at anything except
Titan Black
Titan Z
R9 295X2
anything else will be a downgrade
Pl read the benchmark review:
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?it...
Kitguru Review
Only difference between 780Ti and Titan Black comes to VRAM. This was my basis for my statement.
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sengirman48 said:
hey there guys, i am now currently have a gtx 690 running in my rig and i would like to ask an opinion so here it is:i am happy for the performance of my card but there's one thing that always bothered me.
even though gtx 690 labeled as 4gb vram card but the truth is when playing games it only detected as 2gb vram card.
for example when i was playing titanfall and using the 'insane' setting it gets stuttering a lot. and when playing watch dogs using the ultra texture it does stuttering too.
so i am planning to get myself a gtx 780 (ti or non ti) because the gtx 780 have more vram which is 3gb rather than 2gb that gtx 690 have. do u think guys it is worth it? i am planning to upgrade my card due to gta 5 are releasing soon and i expect that game sure does need a lot of vram.
I'd just wait for optimizations for the game in the next drivers or down a few features to get under 2GB mem usage in titanfall. Watch Dogs appears to have put out a beta, and needs some fixing (shocker).
I wouldn't buy squat until I see 20nm if I owned a 690. You'll get more ram and a chip that can more easily use it to the max. I'm waiting myself, but with a radeon 5850 instead
By the time 20nm gpus ship (xmas? maybe) we'll see more regarding gsync monitors (a good dozen coming if not more by then) and if AMD is anywhere near getting Scaler chip makers to help out where NV failed to get them to budge. If Gsync sales take off this xmas they'll be forced to do something whether it is licensing gsync or making scalers for freesync type tech. You may also have GTA5 perf info by then too. WAIT. Get by however you can
Turn off insane setting etc
IIRC NV has a watch dogs optimization page, and maybe one for titanfall also.http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/watch-dogs-grap...
There's the watch dogs page. Goes through tons of settings to help you out.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/03/15/titanfall-config-guid...
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JOHNN93 said:
Shasha23 said:
Rationale said:
A Titan's not significantly faster than a GTX 780 TI, and will be out of date like any current card as soon as DX12 releases.did you understand my post?
also all 500/600/700 series cards will support DX12 so I don't get your point
you will spend 700 $ for the same thing only to get 1 gb more vram to play a not so good optimized game on pc?
guys come on what the hell.whould you spend this money?
Heck no I wouldn't. WAIT
Besides in both cases I think they have some fixing to do especially watch dogs based on forums etc. The upgrade is NOT worth it and the 20nm jump with larger memory no doubt should be very tantalizing if 750 maxwell on 28nm is any indicator. That card is impressive to say the least for the watts used so 20nm full blown models should be quite impressive either on watts with great perf or completely awesome perf at 780ti watts. They have two roads there. Depending on AMD's response we'll probably see crap model first with lower watts but of course better than 780ti, but then the REAL deal once AMD responds and they get more chips stored up for the maxed out rollout (like 780 fake until 290x, then we got 780ti real with all SMX on). Same thing will happen this time unless AMD comes smoking fast from the get go, but I doubt their R&D can afford to do that really.-
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EasyLover said:
JOHNN93 said:
you forgot double precision.vram is not the only diffrence.Double Precision:Yup but for professionals not for gamers.
Hey now, some pros are gamers also
With more of us taking up game making (lics being so cheap from engines now) there's a chance they may give something more powerful in DP with 20nm. I mean if the 20nm titan whatever can vault so far out there, they may give the whole lower end a boost so it's more usable but still nowhere near encroaching on titan or Tesla/quadro. Probably reaching here, but you never know. Since AMD has very little in pro market, they could always drop a DP bomb in the 500-750 range and halt titan sales enough to cause a better response from NV. I'm sure a top model would sell very well instead of titan if they did this. AMD has never really answered Titan's DP, so maybe we'll get lucky at $700 or something forcing a price drop or huge response. -
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somebodyspecial said:
EasyLover said:
JOHNN93 said:
you forgot double precision.vram is not the only diffrence.Double Precision:Yup but for professionals not for gamers.
Hey now, some pros are gamers also
With more of us taking up game making (lics being so cheap from engines now) there's a chance they may give something more powerful in DP with 20nm. I mean if the 20nm titan whatever can vault so far out there, they may give the whole lower end a boost so it's more usable but still nowhere near encroaching on titan or Tesla/quadro. Probably reaching here, but you never know. Since AMD has very little in pro market, they could always drop a DP bomb in the 500-750 range and halt titan sales enough to cause a better response from NV. I'm sure a top model would sell very well instead of titan if they did this. AMD has never really answered Titan's DP, so maybe we'll get lucky at $700 or something forcing a price drop or huge response.Agreed. Maybe AMD is just waiting for nVIDIA to roll out their Maxwell series GPUs and then release their secret weapon
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Shasha23 said:
Rationale said:
A Titan's not significantly faster than a GTX 780 TI, and will be out of date like any current card as soon as DX12 releases.did you understand my post?
also all 500/600/700 series cards will support DX12 so I don't get your point
No.
Only some DX12 features are being patched into DX11 cards. Certain DX12 features will need new cards. Look it up.
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