GTX 680 FPS problems

Whoazer · Jun 13, 2014

Hi all, i have been searching all night yesterday and most of today and im at the point now where i dont know where else to look. I bought a 4gb GTX 680 on newegg the other day because it was on sale (http:// ) as an upgrade over my 2GB GTX 660. I received it yesterday and installed it and i have not had any major FPS increases in basically any of my games that i have tried it on. I have not noticed a difference in Wildstar, DayZ, or BF4. I thought that it might be a RAM issue as i bought a 4gb stick to add to my 8gb stick. Its the same brand but i noticed the 4gb had different timings so i removed it but did not see any difference.

Here are my specs:

CPU: AMD FX-4300 Vishera 3.8GHz (4.0GHz) Socket AM3+ 95W Desktop Processor FD4300WMHKBOX

MOTHERBOARD: BIOSTAR TA970 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

GPU: GIGABYTE GV-N680OC-4GD GeForce GTX 680 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL10S-8GBXL

Power Supply: 500W

I understand the power supply i have is a bit low for the GPU, but i was told that it could handle the GTX 680 and i havent noticed any problems power wise from monitoring it last night. A friend of mine said that it could be the CPU thats causing the slow down and while i agree its not the best CPU out there i just think i would be seeing better framerates. What i dont get is that i will lower bascially all the settings to medium or low from high and theres barely an increase, if one at all. I am going to try to re-install my drivers when i get home and possibly roll them back a version or two to give that a try. Thank you.

vrumor · Jun 13, 2014

Pretty sure you are being held back by your CPU, not your GPU. OC the 4300 some and see if it helps. If you dont know how to OC, search this site and others for complete guides on how to do so.

bignastyid · Jun 13, 2014

Whats your in game CPU usage(per core)? It could be a CPU bottleneck.

Novuake · Jun 13, 2014

All of the games you mentioned are CPU intense, minimize your graphics settings in those games and see if you can shift the bottleneck to your CPU to confirm if your CPU is holding you back.

Whoazer · Jun 13, 2014

I have AMD Overdrive and i was looking at overclocking, my only concern is that my power supply is already not rated for my GPU and if i overclock my CPU im worried my power supply wont be able to handle it.

That_Guy88 · Jun 13, 2014

What settings are you playing at? Are you playing BF4 multiplayer? If so, see if the FPS is better in the single player than it was with the 660. There is a good chance you are bottlenecking the 680.

You could also try lowering the resolution. If the FPS do not go up much (when dropping from 1080p to 720p for example) it could indicate a CPU bottleneck. Also, check your GPU and CPU usage while you are playing. If CPU usage is at 100% but GPU usage is low, than that would also indicate a CPU bottleneck.

vrumor · Jun 13, 2014

You can do as Novuake suggested then, and also buy at least a decent 650w PSU.

AMDRadeonHD · Jun 13, 2014

What's your exact PSU name?

Whoazer · Jun 13, 2014

AMDRadeonHD :

I was unable to locate the specific model searching for the part number but i got it with my case

link to case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147081

bignastyid · Jun 13, 2014

Whoazer :

You should seriously consider replacing that psu ASAP. Putting that low end PSU under the load you are is extremely risky to the system and could very well fry that new video card and anything else attached to the PSU.

Whoazer · Jun 13, 2014

bignastyid :

Whoazer :

You should seriously consider replacing that psu ASAP. Putting that low end PSU under the load you are is extremely risky to the system and could very well fry that new video card and anything else attached to the PSU.

Wouldnt my components underclock themselves if they werent getting enough power?

bignastyid · Jun 13, 2014

They may be getting enough power but with PSUs such as yours they have poor voltage regulation and ripple, which are the system killers.

Whoazer · Jun 13, 2014

bignastyid :

Could you point me in the direction of a reasonably priced reliable PSU?

bignastyid · Jun 13, 2014

This would be the smallest I would recommend
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9
If you want a bit more headroom
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb9
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr

Whoazer · Jun 13, 2014

bignastyid :

I bought the 650W psu thanks for the link. If i upgraded to this CPU would it be worth the price for the upgrade and would it be compatible with my current mobo?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

That_Guy88 · Jun 13, 2014

Your mobo should be compatible with that CPU. You might also consider the 8320 instead of the 8350 if you want to save a few bucks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285&cm_re=fx-8320-_-19-113-285-_-Product

It is the exact same chip but just clocked a little lower (3.5 vs 4.0). I have the 8320 and overclocked it to 4.0 without changing the voltage, and that is not too uncommon.

Whoazer · Jun 13, 2014

That_Guy88 :

I guess my last question would be is it worth it to upgrade to that cpu? will i see a good fps increase as opposed to my current cpu? or should i bite the bullet and replace both my mobo and cpu with an i7?

bignastyid · Jun 13, 2014

With some games you need a good overclock on AMD CPUs to make up for the lower core performance, the current motherboard you have only uses a 4+1 VRM phase which will limit it's overclocking capabilities especially with the more power hungry 8-core cpu's. So for a good OC I would suggest replacing the board with a 990 chipset or a a 970 with better VRMs. You could go intel but it will cost more
AMD
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($143.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $228.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 12:33 EDT-0400
Intel(can overclock)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($143.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $377.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 12:31 EDT-0400
Intel(no overclocking)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $324.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 12:36 EDT-0400

Whoazer · Jun 13, 2014

Thanks everyone for the feedback i really appreciate it. I have a better understanding of what i need to do now.

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