integrated graphics question need help.

bubbabubba · Jun 13, 2014

I am trying to record and save ps3 gameplay with an hd pvr 2, system requirements say 256 MB graphics card is needed at least for it, I ran dxdiag on my PC and it says system memory is 1022 MB but under display my graphics card has only 96.0 MB I'm sure my PC has a integrated graphics card built in I'm not real PC savvy so can my PC borrow system memory and help with that 96.0 MB

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meat_loaf · Jun 13, 2014

bubbabubba :

No, your graphics card cannot borrow system memory to help it record. When they mean 256 mb it means fully dedicated graphics memory not shared. And you shouldn't even be recording games without a dedicated graphics card.

bubbabubba · Jun 14, 2014

meat_loaf :

I'm getting a 256 MB PCI graphics card to have enough to be able to save my games and play them back on my PC, I'm assuming the 256 MB is for the video playback/edit if you wanted to I don't know.. Is there a way I can have a test hd video to watch to see if I'm already able to watch HD video, if I can then whats the 256 MB for? I also have a dell dimension 3000 I think it has a 250 watt PSU

http://www.amazon.com/nVIDIA-GeForce-FX5500-Desktop-Graphics/dp/B009GXO7RY/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402713087&sr=1-2&keywords=256+MB+pci+graphics+card

will this be ok?

meat_loaf · Jun 14, 2014

bubbabubba :

meat_loaf :

I'm getting a 256 MB PCI graphics card to have enough to be able to save my games and play them back on my PC, I'm assuming the 256 MB is for the video playback/edit if you wanted to I don't know.. Is there a way I can have a test hd video to watch to see if I'm already able to watch HD video, if I can then whats the 256 MB for? I also have a dell dimension 3000 I think it has a 250 watt PSU

http://www.amazon.com/nVIDIA-GeForce-FX5500-Desktop-Graphics/dp/B009GXO7RY/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402713087&sr=1-2&keywords=256+MB+pci+graphics+card

will this be ok?

If you can try to get a 512mb card that gives you some headroom as insurance. Often enough when applications and stuff that requires XXXmb, usually thats a minimum and they want a bit more. But if you are on a budget then that card should be good enough for your need.

meat_loaf · Jun 14, 2014

Presler :

I dont think running an accelerator will even work because it needs 256mb dedicated video as a minimum requirement in order to run that application bubba is using since the system gives him an error right from the start. The accelerator program won't even help because the pc only has 1 gb of ram and cannot not possible allocate 256 of system memory to support the video. It will just bottleneck the entire computer.

bubbabubba · Jun 14, 2014

meat_loaf :

Yeah that's what I figured also if I did go 512 MB probably not, I think I would need a bigger power supply with that also correct? I think I will go with the 256 MB card now I just need to know the proper way to install it like step by step. I have seen people install cards many different ways "without the little things" by just power off > insert card > plug monitor into new card > power on > install drivers and good to go.

Then some people have no card "integrated" and they uninstall card drivers > power off > insert new card > plug monitor into new card > power on > install drivers from disc or website.

Iv'e seen power off > install new card > keep monitor into old card still > power on > uninstall and disable old card > power off > plug monitor into new card > power up > install drivers....

I really need to know the proper way also if it fails

I hope not that wouldn't mess with anything would it like my desktop or HDD files would just need to get back to how it was?

meat_loaf · Jun 15, 2014

bubbabubba :

meat_loaf :

Yeah that's what I figured also if I did go 512 MB probably not, I think I would need a bigger power supply with that also correct? I think I will go with the 256 MB card now I just need to know the proper way to install it like step by step. I have seen people install cards many different ways "without the little things" by just power off > insert card > plug monitor into new card > power on > install drivers and good to go.

Then some people have no card "integrated" and they uninstall card drivers > power off > insert new card > plug monitor into new card > power on > install drivers from disc or website.

Iv'e seen power off > install new card > keep monitor into old card still > power on > uninstall and disable old card > power off > plug monitor into new card > power up > install drivers....

I really need to know the proper way also if it fails

I hope not that wouldn't mess with anything would it like my desktop or HDD files would just need to get back to how it was?

A 512mb card wont consume any more power than that 256mb card of yours. How much wattage can your psu supply?

As for installing the card the essential steps should work.
1. turn off power and install the card on PCI slot (make sure to ground yourself in case of static)
2. Run the computer and go to bios and see if the PCI is the primary adapter. Almost always the computer itself should be able to recognize the PCI as primary, if not then you need to change it in the bios.
3. Download drivers from Nvidia or AMD depending which you end up buying.
4. Reboot is always after driver and you are done.

Any fail to the graphics card will not cause your HDD files to be lost because this is gpu hardware and wont affect anything on storage drives.

bubbabubba · Jun 15, 2014

meat_loaf :

bubbabubba :

A 512mb card wont consume any more power than that 256mb card of yours. How much wattage can your psu supply?

As for installing the card the essential steps should work.
1. turn off power and install the card on PCI slot (make sure to ground yourself in case of static)
2. Run the computer and go to bios and see if the PCI is the primary adapter. Almost always the computer itself should be able to recognize the PCI as primary, if not then you need to change it in the bios.
3. Download drivers from Nvidia or AMD depending which you end up buying.
4. Reboot is always after driver and you are done.

Any fail to the graphics card will not cause your HDD files to be lost because this is gpu hardware and wont affect anything on storage drives.

I'm pretty sure 256 watts at least that's what it's supposed to be I will have to open my PC up again and look at it to know for sure but that's good then I wont have to worry about power at all with that card if I have 256 PSU.

No fail to HDD files or anything? that's good also. Alright so install the new card plug in monitor to new card power up go into bios first check there make sure its primary, from there go onto home screen install drivers from CD or website and reboot and should be good hopefully? I will use these steps after it arrives when I fully decide tommorrow what card I'm going to get.

should I take one more step and uninstall the current integrated graphics driver first?

meat_loaf · Jun 15, 2014

bubbabubba :

meat_loaf :

bubbabubba :

A 512mb card wont consume any more power than that 256mb card of yours. How much wattage can your psu supply?

As for installing the card the essential steps should work.
1. turn off power and install the card on PCI slot (make sure to ground yourself in case of static)
2. Run the computer and go to bios and see if the PCI is the primary adapter. Almost always the computer itself should be able to recognize the PCI as primary, if not then you need to change it in the bios.
3. Download drivers from Nvidia or AMD depending which you end up buying.
4. Reboot is always after driver and you are done.

Any fail to the graphics card will not cause your HDD files to be lost because this is gpu hardware and wont affect anything on storage drives.

I'm pretty sure 256 watts at least that's what it's supposed to be I will have to open my PC up again and look at it to know for sure but that's good then I wont have to worry about power at all with that card if I have 256 PSU.

No fail to HDD files or anything? that's good also. Alright so install the new card plug in monitor to new card power up go into bios first check there make sure its primary, from there go onto home screen install drivers from CD or website and reboot and should be good hopefully? I will use these steps after it arrives when I fully decide tommorrow what card I'm going to get.

should I take one more step and uninstall the current integrated graphics driver first?

Yes you should always uninstall your integrated or any previous graphics driver you have since the new card wont recognize them and sometimes it gets confused as to which driver to use.

bubbabubba · Jun 15, 2014

Yes you should always uninstall your integrated or any previous graphics driver you have since the new card wont recognize them and sometimes it gets confused as to which driver to use. [/quotemsg]

Should I uninstall and "disable" the previous integrated driver I know there is both to do? Also I will still go into BIOS after putting in the new card aswell but about the BIOS..

There seems to be a newer version of BIOS that I never installed.
"Dell Dimension System BIOS, A03"

http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=R115211&fileId=2731111128&osCode=WW1&productCode=dimension-3000&languageCode=EN&categoryId=BI
http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/product/dimension-3000/drivers

Should I install that newer BIOS would that screw with anything like HDD files or mess up the comp in anyway like if the BIOS install goes wrong or something or just in general?

bubbabubba · Jun 15, 2014

Presler :

Couldn't find anything in BIOS either at least with the BIOS version I have just a AGP setting is the closest thing.

meat_loaf · Jun 15, 2014

Presler :

I dont think thats even possible to run Windows 7 and 8.1 considerably given that fact bubba only has 1 gb of ram. Because that will bottleneck the entire system trying to run either OS. Even the recommended of 2gb ram will still bottleneck the system. 4gb is required to run 7 and 8.1 smoothly.

Even my old laptop with 1 gb ram struggles to run XP smoothly without having extreme lag.

meat_loaf · Jun 15, 2014

That really depends on you. If your computer is old and doesn't use mflash base to flash the bios then it gets risky to install the bios because there is a chance you will brick your system. The old method uses the .exe file and the new one is just a flash image that you can store on a usb.

Generally new bios do provide better system compatibility and stability. But remember if you update your bios you can never go back.

bubbabubba · Jun 15, 2014

meat_loaf :

I was getting an error on this site 502

weird..

I was thinking if I updated the BIOS to AO3 I have AO2 that I would have been able to try the shared ram thingy but I don't want to mess with the BIOS. I was also thinking that maybe I needed to to be able to disable integrated graphics I saw this in BIOS "primary video controller auto or onboard" Is that it? I think I'm going to go with this one I have 1gb RAM it needs 256MB so I'm good? Also found saw I got 250 watt PSU in my PC.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/34h8m1g.jpg RAM 1gb?
http://oi57.tinypic.com/33o5p8h.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GWE7EC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1ENECL4QMH21H&coliid=IGNGV5R7P8HTI

meat_loaf · Jun 17, 2014

bubbabubba :

meat_loaf :

I was getting an error on this site 502

weird..

I was thinking if I updated the BIOS to AO3 I have AO2 that I would have been able to try the shared ram thingy but I don't want to mess with the BIOS. I was also thinking that maybe I needed to to be able to disable integrated graphics I saw this in BIOS "primary video controller auto or onboard" Is that it? I think I'm going to go with this one I have 1gb RAM it needs 256MB so I'm good? Also found saw I got 250 watt PSU in my PC.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/34h8m1g.jpg RAM 1gb?
http://oi57.tinypic.com/33o5p8h.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GWE7EC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1ENECL4QMH21H&coliid=IGNGV5R7P8HTI

That bios setting you see is the video controller and it is the correct one. It should be left on auto since the computer will automatically detect it. And as for your errors, I'm not too sure.

bubbabubba · Jun 17, 2014

meat_loaf :

bubbabubba :

That bios setting you see is the video controller and it is the correct one. It should be left on auto since the computer will automatically detect it. And as for your errors, I'm not too sure.

Awesome, so that means I wont even have to go into the BIOS when I install the new card. Hopefully everything will go smoothly when I install.

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