Ok im looking on newegg at some intel motherboards and it says the cpu type on some, for example this one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130775 only says the cpu type is i7/i5/i3/ Pentium / Celeron. Does that mean a 4th gen haswell cpu like the i5 4670k will only work if i have one like this http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979 that one says 4th gen in the cpu type. Also, what motherboards work for ivey bridge? Sorry for a nooby question : P, im pretty sure i know the answer is it has to say 4th gen for a 4th gen processor to work but i want to make sure. Thanks in advance.
Help with 4th gen/3rd gen motherboards
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photonboy
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3rd gen Intel CPU's (i.e. i5-3570K)->
1155 socket (example, "Z77 Sabertooth")
4th gen Intel CPU's (i.e. i7-4770K)->
1150 socket (example, "Z87 Sabertooth)
*There are new Haswell CPU's that work slightly better for power management on the new Series 9 Intel chipset (i.e. "Z97 Sabertooth" however they work on the previous 8-series provided the motherboard had a BIOS update. You can find that info at the motherboard support site.
**PCPARTPICKER is great to look at prices, parts, and show compatibility (if you make a "System Build" and pick a CPU it will show only compatible boards. May possibly make a mistake such as showing a motherboard that does not yet have the proper BIOS update though.
http://pcpartpicker.com/
Other:
Asus has a "TUF" series of motherboards that are highly reliable and carry a 5-year Warranty such as the Z87 Gryphon whic is about $155.
1155 socket (example, "Z77 Sabertooth")
4th gen Intel CPU's (i.e. i7-4770K)->
1150 socket (example, "Z87 Sabertooth)
*There are new Haswell CPU's that work slightly better for power management on the new Series 9 Intel chipset (i.e. "Z97 Sabertooth" however they work on the previous 8-series provided the motherboard had a BIOS update. You can find that info at the motherboard support site.
**PCPARTPICKER is great to look at prices, parts, and show compatibility (if you make a "System Build" and pick a CPU it will show only compatible boards. May possibly make a mistake such as showing a motherboard that does not yet have the proper BIOS update though.
http://pcpartpicker.com/
Other:
Asus has a "TUF" series of motherboards that are highly reliable and carry a 5-year Warranty such as the Z87 Gryphon whic is about $155.
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Update:
1) If you get a Haswell (4th gen) like the i5-4690K make sure the power supply supports the Haswell/4th gen C6/C7 power state or your PC can crash on resume.
2) Here is an EXAMPLE of a computer build. you may want different parts, and it has no dedicated graphics card (uses the CPU's iGPU).
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C6rRgs
3) The new i5/i7 CPU's run cooler and overclock better (if you care). The i5-4690K and i7-4790K. Optimal motherboard is a Z97, and a good cooler like the Noctua NH-U12S.
4) Windows 8.1 64-bit is the best OS now, however the interface is an issue for many, myself included. You can get START8 for $5 which basically makes it look like Windows 7, or some free programs.
5) If on more of a budget, consider the G3258 CPU, and a cheaper motherboard
1) If you get a Haswell (4th gen) like the i5-4690K make sure the power supply supports the Haswell/4th gen C6/C7 power state or your PC can crash on resume.
2) Here is an EXAMPLE of a computer build. you may want different parts, and it has no dedicated graphics card (uses the CPU's iGPU).
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C6rRgs
3) The new i5/i7 CPU's run cooler and overclock better (if you care). The i5-4690K and i7-4790K. Optimal motherboard is a Z97, and a good cooler like the Noctua NH-U12S.
4) Windows 8.1 64-bit is the best OS now, however the interface is an issue for many, myself included. You can get START8 for $5 which basically makes it look like Windows 7, or some free programs.
5) If on more of a budget, consider the G3258 CPU, and a cheaper motherboard
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So any motherboard with socket 1150 will support a 4th gen cpu?
Yes, though some of the recent CPU's require a BIOS update that some motherboards may not have. You can go to the motherboard support site to see WHEN the BIOS update was done. If a week ago like I've seen you may have a problem, if in January it's likely you won't as store stock should be newer.
Also, some Asus board can update the BIOS without a CPU so it's not an issue for those boards ("Asus BIOS Flashback").
Example: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/GRYPHON_Z97/
1. Click "Support"
2. Click "CPU Support" (note the i7-4790K says BIOS 1008 required)
3. Click "Drivers and Tools" -> "Windows 8.1"-> "BIOS"
*What we see here is that the i7-4790K was supported as of the update on May 30th so would the motherboard you buy work with this CPU?
Luckily this motherboard has BIOS FLASHBACK which doesn't need a CPU so if the correct BIOS would have to be updated before installing the CPU if not up to date.
However, there are SOME motherboards that won't have the correct BIOS yet, and also can't be flashed without a CPU.
Yes, though some of the recent CPU's require a BIOS update that some motherboards may not have. You can go to the motherboard support site to see WHEN the BIOS update was done. If a week ago like I've seen you may have a problem, if in January it's likely you won't as store stock should be newer.
Also, some Asus board can update the BIOS without a CPU so it's not an issue for those boards ("Asus BIOS Flashback").
Example: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/GRYPHON_Z97/
1. Click "Support"
2. Click "CPU Support" (note the i7-4790K says BIOS 1008 required)
3. Click "Drivers and Tools" -> "Windows 8.1"-> "BIOS"
*What we see here is that the i7-4790K was supported as of the update on May 30th so would the motherboard you buy work with this CPU?
Luckily this motherboard has BIOS FLASHBACK which doesn't need a CPU so if the correct BIOS would have to be updated before installing the CPU if not up to date.
However, there are SOME motherboards that won't have the correct BIOS yet, and also can't be flashed without a CPU.
I am updating my pc soon, i will be replaceing the cpu, motherboard, psu and case. I allready have win 8.1 and am not effected by the change at all, i don't really know why everyone is. If you have time would you mind picking me out a 130-150 $ motherboard that works with i5 4670k ? only required thing is that it supports sli or crossfire for the future, aloth it would be nice to have, but not super needed, 4 or more sys fan headers on the motherboard would be nice. If you don't have time thats fine. Thanks for the replies.
~jailz
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Hi,
1) The CPU you mean is the i5-4690K I believe.
2) The motherboard I recommend is this one from Gigabyte. I don't have time to do more research though:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4960#ov
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3h
This is a Z97 board which is essentially the same minus some CPU power management optimizations:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z97a
Other:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97xkiller
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xgaming5
Summary:
I simply don't have enough CUSTOMER REVIEWS at this point. Also double-check compatibility with Crossfire/SLI and compare features. I don't have any more time.. cheers.
1) The CPU you mean is the i5-4690K I believe.
2) The motherboard I recommend is this one from Gigabyte. I don't have time to do more research though:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4960#ov
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3h
This is a Z97 board which is essentially the same minus some CPU power management optimizations:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z97a
Other:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97xkiller
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xgaming5
Summary:
I simply don't have enough CUSTOMER REVIEWS at this point. Also double-check compatibility with Crossfire/SLI and compare features. I don't have any more time.. cheers.
Thanks for the motherboard, but i am not mixing up the cpu's, atleast im pretty sure. I know the i5 4670k is 4th gen and seems to be what alot of people say to go with, but i have never heard of the cpu your talking about, is it alot better then the i5 4670k ? I know you said you didn't have anymore time so if you can't replie thats fine but thanks for all your help
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The i5-4690K is a refresh of the i5-4670K (you said i5-4680K btw which doesn't exist).
The new CPU costs about $7 more, runs much cooler and can overclock higher.
http://wccftech.com/intel-devils-canyon-core-i7-4790k-core-i5-4690k-processors-confirmed-core-i74790k-boosts-44-ghz/
So when I'm talking about BIOS compatibility I'm referring mainly to these new CPU's.
The new CPU costs about $7 more, runs much cooler and can overclock higher.
http://wccftech.com/intel-devils-canyon-core-i7-4790k-core-i5-4690k-processors-confirmed-core-i74790k-boosts-44-ghz/
So when I'm talking about BIOS compatibility I'm referring mainly to these new CPU's.
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