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June 15, 2014 1:31:28 AM

Guys which is better configuration for gaming only ??
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Processor: Intel i5 4670
MotherBoard: Gigabyte H87M D3H
Ram: Corsair Vengeance (8x1) GB DDR3 RAM 1600 MHz
Storage: 1TB WD
Graphics card: Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4 GB
Power Supply: Antec VP650P
Cabinet: NZXT Phantom 410

Processor: Intel E3 1230 V3
MotherBoard: Gigabyte B85M D3H
Ram: Corsair Vengeance (8x1) GB DDR3 RAM 1600 MHz
Storage: 1TB WD
Graphics card: Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4 GB
Power Supply: Seasonic 650
Cabinet: NZXT Phantom 530


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June 15, 2014 1:35:39 AM

Out of those two, probably the first one.
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June 15, 2014 1:37:00 AM

Syblemz said:
Out of those two, probably the first one.

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Whats you reason ?
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June 15, 2014 1:38:30 AM

Thats actually a much trickier question than it seems. since your builds are basically the same and both CPUs are soo similar (4 cores , ~3.3 ghz) and will play any game no problem at the moment even without overclocking, your basically asking whether in the future you'll achieve better performance from a higher clock or HT (i e more logical cores). I personally an of the mindset that it will be HT that wins the day (since the consoles are moving to higher cored systems the logical cores will start to have a higher impact), but few of us are qualified to make guesses as to the future of an entire industry.

The xeon also marginally out performs the I5 at stock clocks as well, so probably the xeon would be my choice.
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June 15, 2014 1:44:28 AM

They would both be good, but Xeons are mainly a server type processor since they are designed to run at lower temperatures. The i5 4670 also has a slightly faster clock speed. But yes, both can run games no problem.
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June 15, 2014 1:47:49 AM

Syblemz said:
They would both be good, but Xeons are mainly a server type processor. The i5 4670 also has a faster clock speed. But yes, both can run games no problem.


Mainly for servers is a bad reason, they have the basically the same clock( 3.3 xeon vs 3.4 i5) and their IPC(instructions per cycle) is the same, you will see no difference at the moment in gaming, since neither come anywhere near bottle necking a card..

What you will see with the 2011 seat however is more memory capacity (64 vs 32 gb) for future upgrades as well as better PCI laning for Xfire if he should want one later.

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June 15, 2014 1:50:33 AM

Syblemz said:
They would both be good, but Xeons are mainly a server type processor since they are designed to run at lower temperatures. The i5 4670 also has a slightly faster clock speed. But yes, both can run games no problem.


This doesnt matter either, as they cant possibly be overclocked to reach those higher temps.
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June 15, 2014 1:51:07 AM

Yeah, okay, my bad I should have expanded on that. And okay.
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June 15, 2014 1:51:22 AM

vortical said:
Thats actually a much trickier question than it seems. since your builds are basically the same and both CPUs are soo similar (4 cores , ~3.3 ghz) and will play any game no problem at the moment even without overclocking, your basically asking whether in the future you'll achieve better performance from a higher clock or HT (i e more logical cores). I personally an of the mindset that it will be HT that wins the day (since the consoles are moving to higher cored systems the logical cores will start to have a higher impact), but few of us are qualified to make guesses as to the future of an entire industry.

The xeon also marginally out performs the I5 at stock clocks as well, so probably the xeon would be my choice.


i5 4670 or the E3 1230 V3 will work fine for both the mobo i listed above Gigabyte H87M D3H and Gigabyte B85M D3H right ?
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June 15, 2014 1:54:02 AM

cydialover said:
vortical said:
Thats actually a much trickier question than it seems. since your builds are basically the same and both CPUs are soo similar (4 cores , ~3.3 ghz) and will play any game no problem at the moment even without overclocking, your basically asking whether in the future you'll achieve better performance from a higher clock or HT (i e more logical cores). I personally an of the mindset that it will be HT that wins the day (since the consoles are moving to higher cored systems the logical cores will start to have a higher impact), but few of us are qualified to make guesses as to the future of an entire industry.

The xeon also marginally out performs the I5 at stock clocks as well, so probably the xeon would be my choice.


i5 4670 or the E3 1230 V3 will work fine for both the mobo i listed above Gigabyte H87M D3H and Gigabyte B85M D3H right ?

NVM, apparently they are both 1150 seat, but your boards will work
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June 15, 2014 2:00:23 AM

I still think that the xeon will have the better future usefulness even without the 2011 seat's perks though.
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June 15, 2014 2:05:03 AM

So this would be d best config ?
Processor: Intel E3 1230 V3
MotherBoard: Gigabyte H87M D3H
Ram: Corsair Vengeance (8x1) GB DDR3 RAM 1600 MHz
Storage: 1TB WD
Graphics card: Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4 GB
Power Supply: Seasonic 650
Cabinet: NZXT Phantom 530
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June 15, 2014 2:09:24 AM

cydialover said:
So this would be d best config ?
Processor: Intel E3 1230 V3
MotherBoard: Gigabyte H87M D3H
Ram: Corsair Vengeance (8x1) GB DDR3 RAM 1600 MHz
Storage: 1TB WD
Graphics card: Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4 GB
Power Supply: Seasonic 650
Cabinet: NZXT Phantom 530



"best" is relative, they're both almost the same right not, its important you understand that my recommendation is purely off of the fact that i speculate that HT will be more useful to you in the future than the ability to overclock.

And though i work with computers as a profession, i am by no means an industry insider, so take my speculation as just that.
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June 15, 2014 2:15:25 AM

vortical said:
cydialover said:
So this would be d best config ?
Processor: Intel E3 1230 V3
MotherBoard: Gigabyte H87M D3H
Ram: Corsair Vengeance (8x1) GB DDR3 RAM 1600 MHz
Storage: 1TB WD
Graphics card: Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4 GB
Power Supply: Seasonic 650
Cabinet: NZXT Phantom 530



"best" is relative, they're both almost the same right not, its important you understand that my recommendation is purely off of the fact that i speculate that HT will be more useful to you in the future than the ability to overclock.

And though i work with computers as a profession, i am by no means an industry insider, so take my speculation as just that.


well i'm not purchasing the 4670k version as i'm not going to overclock so i think Xeon 1230 v3 would be the best choice as you said both will work same today
but in future there may be more game with 8 Core support then the xeon will be more future prroof
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June 15, 2014 2:19:54 AM

cydialover said:
vortical said:
cydialover said:
So this would be d best config ?
Processor: Intel E3 1230 V3
MotherBoard: Gigabyte H87M D3H
Ram: Corsair Vengeance (8x1) GB DDR3 RAM 1600 MHz
Storage: 1TB WD
Graphics card: Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4 GB
Power Supply: Seasonic 650
Cabinet: NZXT Phantom 530



"best" is relative, they're both almost the same right not, its important you understand that my recommendation is purely off of the fact that i speculate that HT will be more useful to you in the future than the ability to overclock.

And though i work with computers as a profession, i am by no means an industry insider, so take my speculation as just that.


well i'm not purchasing the 4670k version as i'm not going to overclock so i think Xeon 1230 v3 would be the best choice as you said both will work same today
but in future there may be more game with 8 Core support then the xeon will be more future prroof


If you DEFINITELY wont overclock, then there's no debate that the xeon hyper threading will be better over time.
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June 15, 2014 2:24:03 AM

vortical said:
cydialover said:
vortical said:
cydialover said:
So this would be d best config ?
Processor: Intel E3 1230 V3
MotherBoard: Gigabyte H87M D3H
Ram: Corsair Vengeance (8x1) GB DDR3 RAM 1600 MHz
Storage: 1TB WD
Graphics card: Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4 GB
Power Supply: Seasonic 650
Cabinet: NZXT Phantom 530



"best" is relative, they're both almost the same right not, its important you understand that my recommendation is purely off of the fact that i speculate that HT will be more useful to you in the future than the ability to overclock.

And though i work with computers as a profession, i am by no means an industry insider, so take my speculation as just that.


well i'm not purchasing the 4670k version as i'm not going to overclock so i think Xeon 1230 v3 would be the best choice as you said both will work same today
but in future there may be more game with 8 Core support then the xeon will be more future prroof


If you DEFINITELY wont overclock, then there's no debate that the xeon hyper threading will be better over time.


Alright thank you very much
I'll be getting Intel E3 1230 V3 with Gigabyte H87M D3H and R9 290 Tri-X :) 
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June 15, 2014 2:26:36 AM

Glad we could help!
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June 15, 2014 2:27:58 AM

Yeah get the Xeon. By the way, get 2 x 4GB RAM sticks so that you can let them run in dual channel mode. Slightly faster than a single stick.
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June 15, 2014 3:27:27 AM

The first one is good.But move from a h series motherboard to a z series motherboard for better gaming performance
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June 15, 2014 3:36:06 AM

This has pretty much already been solved and sorted. They decided on the Xeon.
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June 15, 2014 6:58:09 AM

blademaster123 said:
Yeah get the Xeon. By the way, get 2 x 4GB RAM sticks so that you can let them run in dual channel mode. Slightly faster than a single stick.


ill be later upgrading ram to 16 GB
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June 15, 2014 6:58:26 AM

blademaster123 said:
Yeah get the Xeon. By the way, get 2 x 4GB RAM sticks so that you can let them run in dual channel mode. Slightly faster than a single stick.


ill be later upgrading ram to 16 GB
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June 15, 2014 7:13:39 AM

Rohitdev7736 said:
The first one is good.But move from a h series motherboard to a z series motherboard for better gaming performance


That seems like somewhat costly then as B and H series are of same price
and i'm already over my budget :( 
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June 17, 2014 11:00:15 AM

bUT H SERIES Mb LIMIT YOUR GRAPHIC CARD PERFORMANCE...
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June 17, 2014 11:02:23 AM

Rohitdev7736 said:
bUT H SERIES Mb LIMIT YOUR GRAPHIC CARD PERFORMANCE...


No they don't.
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June 17, 2014 11:06:01 AM






YES.JUST GOOGLE IT. B IS BTTR THAN H\
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June 17, 2014 11:32:22 AM

THEN NOT THAT H87 DOESNT SUPPORT CROSSFIRE X AND SLI!
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June 18, 2014 10:13:49 AM

Rohitdev7736 said:
THEN NOT THAT H87 DOESNT SUPPORT CROSSFIRE X AND SLI!


The OP didn't say he wanted Crossfire or SLI support. If you want that kind of support you need a Z87 based motherboard.
I believe H87 'supports' crossfire/SLI but at x16 x4. Which isn't really good enough. You want ideally at least x8 x8.
Google it or check other threads on tomshardware, I don't want to clog up this thread.
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