Upcoming titles and GPU

GreekDude97 · Jun 16, 2014

Hey guys, so I put up an ad on a website to sell my GPU. I'm selling a Sapphire HD 7970 OC 3GB to get a GTX 770 2GB. I've also preordered GTA V for PC and will preorder some more stuff, like Battlefield: Hardline, Far Cry 4, Assassin's Creed: Unity and Raibow Six: Siege. Currently, I play a lot of BF4. Do you think that the MSI GTX 770 OC Gaming 2GB Twin Frozr will handle these games maxed out at 1080p?

The rest of my system:
Turbo-X Cerberus V Midi Tower
Gigabyte Z87-HD3
Intel Core i5 4670k
Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO
Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Sapphire HD 7970 Dual-X OC 3GB GDDR5
Samsung 840 Series 120GB SSD
Western Digital WD10EZEX 1TB Caviar Blue HDD
Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD-RW
Corsair Enthusiast Series TX850 V2
Cooler Master 120mm Blue LED Fan
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Turbo-X Gk1 Gaming Keyboard
Logitech G400 Mouse
Razer Destructor Mousepad
Natec Genesis HX55 Virtual 5.1 Gaming Headset
LG 24EA53 24" 1080p 5ms IPS Panel

oxiide · Jun 16, 2014

I'm not sure what you're going for. An overclocked HD 7970 (and its rebrand, the R9 280X) is about as close to a GTX 770 as one can get. Its probably even faster in certain games, particularly BF4.

On a side note, I absolutely recommend saving your money and not pre-ordering these games until reviews come out and we have a clue if they're worth our money. GTA V in particular… Rockstar has a track record of treating PC like garbage. Sorry to sneak that in off-topic.

GreekDude97 · Jun 16, 2014

oxiide :

I'm aware that the HD 7970 is similar in performance with the GTX 770, but I've never tried NVIDIA in my entire life and everyone says it's better. My first GPU was the HD 5450, then the HD 7770 and then the HD 7970. That's why I need a change, something new. As for GTA V, it took R* some long ass time before they announced for PC, so it had better run nice and smooth on PC.

Gimpy2k7 · Jun 16, 2014

I understand your hesitation making the switch, not dealing with Nvidia before, I was in a similar situation a few years back. Growing up I was always an AMD guy. I remember the days where AMD was ahead of Intel (I know that's been a while) then near the end of 2008 I started doing some research and really saw Intel was ahead of the game. That was the first domino.

At that point I was doing a new build, the first in a while and I wanted to go with an Nvidia card (EVGA) for their reliability, leading technology in both hardware and software, and customer support. I didn't. I live in Canada where for some reason everyone is an AMD fan and I was talked into buying the top end AMD card on the market. I spent more than I wanted on the card with the promise that it was the best thing out there. It never performed. I fought with it for a long time and it simply just didn't perform.

After a while I bought a mid-range Nvidia card and haven't looked back. The drivers, the performance, the support, it's unmatched in my eyes. While AMD cards these days may be equal/slightly better in CERTAIN brief instances, Nvidia as an all around device is a better choice. That said, if you're just a casual gamer or if budget is a concern, there's absolutely nothing wrong with an AMD card. In terms of "bang for buck" you get more from the AMD cards. But if you don't mind paying a premium for the better service, Nvidia is your friend.

Not trying to come off as a fanboy, I have dealt extensively with both brands. This is more of a "I feel you bro" scenario because I was once there too.

On a side note, I'm a big fan of GTAV coming to the PC, but honestly I'm not going to let myself get too excited. They haven't delivered on much with GTA Online, something I deem very important these days. Soon we'll be going on a year into the title and there's still a ton that hasn't been fixed. Rockstar is pulling a Dean Hall when it comes to fixing things!

GreekDude97 · Jun 16, 2014

Gimpy2k7 :

I understand your hesitation making the switch, not dealing with Nvidia before, I was in a similar situation a few years back. Growing up I was always an AMD guy. I remember the days where AMD was ahead of Intel (I know that's been a while) then near the end of 2008 I started doing some research and really saw Intel was ahead of the game. That was the first domino.

At that point I was doing a new build, the first in a while and I wanted to go with an Nvidia card (EVGA) for their reliability, leading technology in both hardware and software, and customer support. I didn't. I live in Canada where for some reason everyone is an AMD fan and I was talked into buying the top end AMD card on the market. I spent more than I wanted on the card with the promise that it was the best thing out there. It never performed. I fought with it for a long time and it simply just didn't perform.

After a while I bought a mid-range Nvidia card and haven't looked back. The drivers, the performance, the support, it's unmatched in my eyes. While AMD cards these days may be equal/slightly better in CERTAIN brief instances, Nvidia as an all around device is a better choice. That said, if you're just a casual gamer or if budget is a concern, there's absolutely nothing wrong with an AMD card. In terms of "bang for buck" you get more from the AMD cards. But if you don't mind paying a premium for the better service, Nvidia is your friend.

Not trying to come off as a fanboy, I have dealt extensively with both brands. This is more of a "I feel you bro" scenario because I was once there too.

On a side note, I'm a big fan of GTAV coming to the PC, but honestly I'm not going to let myself get too excited. They haven't delivered on much with GTA Online, something I deem very important these days. Soon we'll be going on a year into the title and there's still a ton that hasn't been fixed. Rockstar is pulling a Dean Hall when it comes to fixing things!

Thank you for your long answer. When it comes to budget, I can afford pretty much any brand of GTX 770's. But that's how far I can go. I can't (and I don't) wanna buy a GTX 780 or a GTX 780ti, because that would be kind of an overkill for 1080p gaming. The thing is, that the R9 280X has got 3GB of VRAM and that concerns me. Is 2GB of VRAM enough? Or should I go for a R9 280X 3GB or a GTX 770 4GB?

oxiide · Jun 17, 2014

GreekDude97 :

Gimpy2k7 :

Thank you for your long answer. When it comes to budget, I can afford pretty much any brand of GTX 770's. But that's how far I can go. I can't (and I don't) wanna buy a GTX 780 or a GTX 780ti, because that would be kind of an overkill for 1080p gaming. The thing is, that the R9 280X has got 3GB of VRAM and that concerns me. Is 2GB of VRAM enough? Or should I go for a R9 280X 3GB or a GTX 770 4GB?

With an HD 7970 already I really recommend you stick with what you've got. The GTX 770 will be $320+ for almost zero difference in performance. And like I said, the 7970 is probably faster in some of the games you play, notably BF4. Whether Nvidia is "better" or not is arguable for their extra features like PhysX and Shadowplay, but we should all be able to agree that they are not better in raw performance. The two cards are extremely equal.

3 GB of VRAM on a 384-bit bus is a very comfortable amount to have for 1080p gaming. You've got plenty of headroom, and as far as I know only Watch Dogs with Ultra textures will even use that much.

GreekDude97 · Jun 17, 2014

oxiide :

GreekDude97 :

With an HD 7970 already I really recommend you stick with what you've got. The GTX 770 will be $320+ for almost zero difference in performance. And like I said, the 7970 is probably faster in some of the games you play, notably BF4. Whether Nvidia is "better" or not is arguable for their extra features like PhysX and Shadowplay, but we should all be able to agree that they are not better in raw performance. The two cards are extremely equal.

3 GB of VRAM on a 384-bit bus is a very comfortable amount to have for 1080p gaming. You've got plenty of headroom, and as far as I know only Watch Dogs with Ultra textures will even use that much.

Gave it a second thought and I decided to stick to the HD 7970 until NVIDIA comes up with a new series of cards. As I've already said, I really wanna try out a NVIDIA card. So, I'll just hold on.

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