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Hello everyone at Toms

I finally decided to make my own PC, I live in Germany and I have a budget of around 1000 euros
I only intend to make the case, already have mouse, keyboard and screen. Also I plan to use my old desktop's DVD reader.

I'm really confused regarding motherboards, RAMs, PSUs and cases.
I have absolutely no idea about mobos, the CAS on the RAM is confusing me, I'm not much into PSUs and cases are confusing as hell.

I've looked into some parts and this is what I've initially selected

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 Ti AMP! Edition + Game-Bundle, 3GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort (ZT-70503-10P)
http://geizhals.at/de/zotac-geforce-gtx-780-ti-amp-edition-game-bundle-zt-70503-10p-a1037992.html
I'm not really sure about this, I don't really care bout having superb resolutions, and my screen is 900p, no plans to upgrade at all(at least in the near-mid future)

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-4460
http://www.alternate.de/Intel(R)/Core(TM)-i5-4460-CPU/html/product/1129767?
is this too much? I do not plan on overclocking, its a scary thing :p

RAM: G.Skill DIMM 16 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
http://www.alternate.de/G-Skill/DIMM-16-GB-DDR3-1600-Kit-Arbeitsspeicher/html/product/957983?
I chose this kit coz it was the cheapest Ripjaws, all I know is that Ripjaws are the best :p I also understand why its better to have 2x8GB instead of 1x16GB, no plans to upgrade. Im not looking for the ultimate graphically looking games anyways.

Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 (7817-001R)
http://geizhals.at/de/msi-b85m-p33-7817-001r-a952992.html
I chose this coz its the cheapest, I dont know a thing about mobos. And MSI makes good stuff

Case: Lian Li PC-Q29A silber, Mini-DTX/Mini-ITX
http://geizhals.at/de/lian-li-pc-q29a-silber-a1021464.html
cheapest again :p

PSU: Super Flower Golden Green HX 350W ATX 2.3 (SF-350P14XE (HX))
http://geizhals.at/de/super-flower-golden-green-hx-350w-atx-2-3-sf-350p14xe-hx-a1039316.html
acconrding to what I've read on Toms, Super Flower is good, and according to many sources I shouldnt go cheap on a PSU. so is this a fine choice? And I think my components dont need more than 350W right?

Storage: i really have no idea, if theres place for a 256GB SSD in the budget then I woul get it otherwise I'd go pure HDD

I would preferably have a mini-ATX

also Im not sure AMD are very much appealing
I would consider OC if it would be safe to do
I dont mind double GPU solutions as long as it doesnt exceed my 1000euro limit, but preferably single GPU

Thanks in advance
 
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morgilroka
The CPU is overclockable yes! So you're going to get an extra ~20% clock speed.
I did notice i linked you the i7. My mistake. Swap that out for the i5! Nice catch, that saved yourself 100$ lol.
The i5 is more than enough to handle all the new games, and with the overclock you can easily break 4.5ghz clockspeed. The Noctua is an awesome cooler than will keep the temperatures very low. Well worth the price.

That GPU is the best card in that price range by far and will handle anything you throw at it.

The PSU i linked is more than enough power like you said. This build won't even pull over 500w with the overclock. BUT! never go close to the edge with power supplies. My rule is to always have atleast 100w wiggle room to do some upgrades...
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Check this build out it's around your price range.



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($239.29 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.48 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($478.80 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1487.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-16 18:08 EDT-0400

EDIT: **Slight change to the Build**

1000Euros = 1471.85$ CDN
 
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Thanks for the fast replay morgilroka :D
I would like to understand why you have chosen this configuration if you don't mind.

the CPU has a K suffix, means it can be OC'ed, using a non-stock cooler as the Noctua is that possible? (after reading an article at toms this seems to be an excellent cooler, interesting)

Also isn't i7 just extra cost? I've read hat i5 is sufficient for gaming. Isn't having 16GB RAM instead of i7 CPU better?

I liked your GPU choice after some research about GTX 780s, thanks a bunch :D

can't comment on mobo since I'm a noob there, but I know it has no big effect

The case looks cool, i like it :D

I love the PSU being 80+ Platinum, but isn't 660W too much for this system? idk
 
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The CPU is overclockable yes! So you're going to get an extra ~20% clock speed.
I did notice i linked you the i7. My mistake. Swap that out for the i5! Nice catch, that saved yourself 100$ lol.
The i5 is more than enough to handle all the new games, and with the overclock you can easily break 4.5ghz clockspeed. The Noctua is an awesome cooler than will keep the temperatures very low. Well worth the price.

That GPU is the best card in that price range by far and will handle anything you throw at it.

The PSU i linked is more than enough power like you said. This build won't even pull over 500w with the overclock. BUT! never go close to the edge with power supplies. My rule is to always have atleast 100w wiggle room to do some upgrades (like maybe add an SSD in the future?). One thing with the PSU is you don't want to cheap out. I've never heard of the brand you originally had on your build, so i can't comment on that specifically... But stick with the big names like, Corsair, seagate, XFX etc. You don't want to invest over 1000$ into a build to have it be damaged by a faulty power supply.

Like you said, Go with the 16gb ram over the i7. But if you want to save some money, you really only need 8gb. You won't use it all unless you're into video editing.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($239.29 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.48 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($478.80 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1387.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-16 19:12 EDT-0400
 
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Ah awesome thanks a lot for your help. I already know I shouldn't cheap out on the PSU, that SeaSonic seems to be really good according to everywhere I've checked, that's just amazing. I already have 8GB in my laptop and yes it's more than enough but I'm thinking of multitasking. I don't know, maybe I would throw in a 256GB SSD instead.

About the mobo, isn't it a bit too expensive? 240$ seems a lot to me, but I don't really know. Why should I not step down on it?
 
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You could.. Personally though, i trust ASUS always used their motherboards for all my builds and never any issues. The motherboard is on the expensive side because it's the top of the line model in the z87 boards. It accepts the new chipset socket of LGA1150 (which is the socket of the 4670k) which is the newer generation hardware. (new=expensive). It's a great board to overclock with and the BIOS is a breeze. Very user friendly.
The more expensive boards also have more ports which is always helpful.
-8usb slots (4usb3.0), newest ethernet chipsets, newest sound chipset, and it allows up to 32gb ram up to 1886.
This board also comes equipped with a "cover" (you can see it online in the pictures) not only protects it from damage, but dissipates heat.

Summary: You get what you pay for.

Believe me, it's worth the few extra bucks.
 
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