i3 4130 vs FX6300 Gaming Only...Pretty much (could sneak in an i5 4440)

Primordial Genesis · Jun 16, 2014

So these are the prices we're looking at: i3 4130: £82, FX 6300 £78 i5 4440 £128

So I'm guessing because of the such low thread/core count on the i3, the fx 6300 is better. However it's old and AMD have given up. which is a shame, I personally thought an 8 core CPU for multitasking for £100 is amazing.......However I do not multitask and this build is purely 95% for gaming.

I want the FX 6300 becuse it's better for gaming (I'm led to believe by other threads)

However the i3 4130 gives a far better Upgrade path if I buy a Z97 Mobo (or even H97)

However then for £40 more I can get the i5 4440.

Realistically I could be upgrading this gaming rig within 1 - 3 years....Knowing me, probably 1 year.

So which would be the better option? Mobo's for H97/Z97 will cost more but I see that as an investment for 5th gen Intels so the extra cost doesn't bother me too much, because it's about.....£30 - £40 more.

Tbh Still leaning towards the FX abit, because I c ould make it with the AMD Setup, then hold onto it for 3 years then build a whole new system where I';m saving pretty much just a mobo....which is about...£60 - £100.

Cheers,

Primordial Genesis

CTurbo · Jun 16, 2014

The i3 4130/4150 is much better than it's given credit for, and I would choose it over the FX6300 10 out of 10 times.

Of course the i5 is better if you can actually afford it. I would get a H97 motherboard either way.

logainofhades · Jun 16, 2014

I would go i5 4xxx with an H97.

Primordial Genesis · Jun 16, 2014

CTurbo :

I just don't really know what to think many other threads say Fx 6300, many say i3. But here's the flip Side. I play games such as battlefield. Which has been proven to use all 8 cores of an 8320/8120/8350....

So would the FX6300 be better in that situation?

I understand about the H97, but if going down the "Future proofing" route I'd buy a Z97 for not much more for a future 5th Gen CPU.

Have you got any Hard facts/figures representing both the i3 and fx6300 in gameplay? (not trying to be rude or insult you, it's just with fps figures it's far easier to make a judgement, than the ratings you get given on CPUBoss and people saying "Oh this is better etc etc.")

logainofhades · Jun 16, 2014

The FX 6300 cannot even beat my i5 3570k at stock after it has been overclocked to 4.7ghz. It is not going to beat a Haswell i5. H97 or Z97 will handle broadwell. Z97 only needed for overclocking or dual gpu setups. FX 6300 has to be overclocked to beat an i3 3225, much less an i3 4150. That costs more money, that would be better spent elsewhere.

Primordial Genesis · Jun 16, 2014

logainofhades :

I see exactly where you're coming from, But i'm talking all 6 cores on maximum attack playing BF4, 32V32. Know what I mean? I personally think the FX6300 from what I have read (don't think I'm coming on here to try and argue, I'm just stating what I've read) would beat the i3 4130, when all 6 cores are being used. For older games yeah the i3 would be better.

As I said earlier have you got any youtube videos you know of or articles (such as a website like hexus) which have done tests such as this? It's alot easier to interpret FPS figures, you know when it basically says this "Fx 65300 beat the i3, both same setup by this much fps on this game" or vice versa for the i3.

This shows that all 6 cores on maximum attack would beat the i3. http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i3-4130-vs-AMD-FX-6300

And it's just i read on alot of forums that 2 cores, even HTed is just not enough for gaming. and considering games like BF use up to 8.....Starts making you wonder...

Mac266 · Jun 16, 2014

Its more a GPU thing actually. Remeber, the FX 6300 might have 6 cores but they are stuck in three modules, and one intel core is basically equal to one AMD module.

Primordial Genesis · Jun 16, 2014

Mac266 :

I'm not going to lie...as much as I like to make myself believe I know about PC Compnents, that has absolutely baffled me. xD Can you please explain abit further?

Mac266 · Jun 16, 2014

Primordial Genesis :

Sure. AMD basically hook two cores together into a module. Modules use both cores threads (so two threads a module) but can only make one floating point calculation per module.

Intel cores are stronger, theres no arguing against that, and each Intel core can do floating point calculations.

So if you go FX 6300, you will basically have a CPU with less than the equivalent of three Intel cores. The i3 has two hyper-threaded cores, and the i5 has 4 cores.

Primordial Genesis · Jun 16, 2014

Mac266 :

The real question now is for the next 1 - 3 years in games such as watch dogs, battlefield, Will the i3 4130 Keep up? CT Turbo said himself on this thread: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-1902606/4130-6300.html

FX 6300 is better for current future games. Since I'll be hanging onto the i3 for 1 - 3 years, how will it perform with the R9 280X?

Mac266 · Jun 16, 2014

Well, theres a point. But the FX 6300 is a fair bit older than the i3, and the AM3+ socket is frankly ancient. Also, somewhat surprisingly, The i3 has less of a bottleneck than the FX 6300 (I was browsing around just the other day and discovered this).

The i5 4440 is head and shoulders above the others, but really the FX 6300 and i3 trade blows. Just go with what makes you feel comfortable.

CTurbo · Jun 16, 2014

Here is a good comparison using 5 or 6 very popular titles including BF4. You'll see the i3 beating the FX6300 in everything and it evens beats in FX8350 most of the time.

This link goes straight to the BF4 page but look at the other games too.

http://www.hardcoreware.net/intel-core-i3-4340-review/3/

bayonet14 · Jun 16, 2014

I have an i3 4130 and I play a lot of Battlefield 4. It's not about the CPU actually, it's about the graphics. If you want pure gaming, put your money on the graphics card. Like you I was building my PC and FX 6300 vs i3 4130 came up. 6 cores vs 2 cores with hyperthreading seems obvious 6 cores were the way to go but I still chose Intel because of the upgrade path and the two powerful cores, I can upgrade to an i5 sometime in the future. My graphics card is R7 260X and I play on 1600x900 at medium settings with FXAA (depends how much eye candy you want).
Intel is more future proof, and the i3 4130 will do well in current and future games, depends on what resolution and settings you plan to play. Of course this shouldn't be a bother because gaming PC's are determined by graphics cards. Not CPUs.

Primordial Genesis · Jun 17, 2014

CTurbo :

They're using an i3 4340, what would be the difference in performance for the i3 4130? The clock speed is 0.2Mhz slower but is that the only difference?

This Statement in the conclusion makes me weary: "However it does something that no other Core i3 has done before – it is actually a somewhat viable option for gaming at 720p." Make me think the i3 4130 won't cut it.

Cheers.

logainofhades · Jun 17, 2014

There would be no noticeable difference in performance between the 4130 or the 4340. I would go with the 4150 over a 4130. It is a bit less than the 4130 in your country right now.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/compare/intel-cpu-bx80646i34130%2Cintel-cpu-bx80646i34150/

WhiteSnake91 · Jun 17, 2014

If you're going to be playing more modern stuff I'd honestly go with either the i5 if you can or if not the fx6300, here's a vid of the 4130 paired with a gtx 760 in BF4 multiplayer, you can see the cpu varies but average of 95+ percent being used, sometimes at 100% which doesn't leave a whole lot of room for other stuff to be running.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_MPb7Rinq0

I personally would not get a dual core nowadays even with hyperthreading. I'm going to look more up on how much % the 6300 cores get used up but not very many videos show that from what I've seen over time. I remember hearing figures of about 70% being used on forums though.

An i5 4440 with an h81 motherboard would probably be cheaper than an 6300 and good motherboard and heatsink though. The h81 still has sata 6 and usb 3, just couldn't upgrade to broadwell, but honestly with how strong the i5 would be anyway you would have no "real" reason to upgrade besides epeen

So I say i5 if you absolutely can, if not, the 6300 isn't bad. It won't be the best in CPU intensive stuff like huge RTS battles or MMOs but those aren't my thing, just depends if you like them or not. And it's not like the AMD wouldn't be playable at all.

There have been some people that came here recently that complained of their i3s running out of juice so to speak, with gaming and stuff running in the background. Also in Watch Dogs the tom's review, 6300 beat the i3, but 6300 dipped to 28fps at the worst. Overclocking would probably help. The fx8350 beat the i5 they tested though, although it was a lower clocked locked i5 which I don't think was a fair comparison....they should have tested an overclocked i5

Primordial Genesis · Jun 17, 2014

WhiteSnake91 :

If you're going to be playing more modern stuff I'd honestly go with either the i5 if you can or if not the fx6300, here's a vid of the 4130 paired with a gtx 760 in BF4 multiplayer, you can see the cpu varies but average of 95+ percent being used, sometimes at 100% which doesn't leave a whole lot of room for other stuff to be running.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_MPb7Rinq0

I personally would not get a dual core nowadays even with hyperthreading. I'm going to look more up on how much % the 6300 cores get used up but not very many videos show that from what I've seen over time. I remember hearing figures of about 70% being used on forums though.

An i5 4440 with an h81 motherboard would probably be cheaper than an 6300 and good motherboard and heatsink though. The h81 still has sata 6 and usb 3, just couldn't upgrade to broadwell, but honestly with how strong the i5 would be anyway you would have no "real" reason to upgrade besides epeen

So I say i5 if you absolutely can, if not, the 6300 isn't bad. It won't be the best in CPU intensive stuff like huge RTS battles or MMOs but those aren't my thing, just depends if you like them or not. And it's not like the AMD wouldn't be playable at all.

There have been some people that came here recently that complained of their i3s running out of juice so to speak, with gaming and stuff running in the background. Also in Watch Dogs the tom's review, 6300 beat the i3, but 6300 dipped to 28fps at the worst. Overclocking would probably help. The fx8350 beat the i5 they tested though, although it was a lower clocked locked i5 which I don't think was a fair comparison....they should have tested an overclocked i5

Gigabyte 990XA UD3 AM3+ Mobo(top tier mobo really, has corssfire and OC Ability) costs the same as a cheap crappy H81 mobo.

I do sometimes enjoy browsing/ Watching a video on youtube while gaming. Would this make the fx 6300 better value? I really should have specified this first xD

oxiide · Jun 17, 2014

CTurbo :

If the jump from 4th generation to 5th generation follows the last several generations, Broadwell will probably not be worth another $250 within a year if you've already got Haswell. We've been seeing minor ~5% boosts to IPC for several years now. Whatever you decide on, plan on keeping it for about 3 years if you want to get the most for your money.

WhiteSnake91 · Jun 17, 2014

ah I didn't know....that's odd that a top tier AMD motherboard costs the same as a low end Intel one. The intel is much cheaper here. If you plan on crossfiring/SLI then that AMD motherboard would be better, and on a budget the 6300 is pretty good at multitasking. Could you sneak in the cheaper fx8320 cpu? It turbo boosts to 4ghz anyway, many people here choose it over the more expensive 8350 to save money.

The 6300 or 8320 would smoke the i3 in multitasking like that. And if you can get a great AMD top tier motherboard 990fx chipset in that case I'd get the 8320 ideally, or don't feel so bad about only getting the 6300. But 8320 is great for the price.

Primordial Genesis · Jun 17, 2014

logainofhades :

Here's the thing, that article also features an i3 3rd gen which didn't peform so well, and the raw stats aren't THAT different. the i3 3rd gen performs nothing like the i3 4340.

Primordial Genesis · Jun 17, 2014

WhiteSnake91 :

This is the problem with building a PC, the 8320 costs £30 more than the 6300, the i5 4440 costs £20 mroe than the 8320. So you know it just keeps going on and on haha. I could keep going up like that until the i7 4770K lol

So in this casei'd get the i5 4440 over the 8320 then shell out maybe......an extra £30 - £50 for a high end Z97 Mobo for future proofing on the 5th gen side of things. Which will keep me set for a high end 5th gen i5 which I could Overclock. Crossfire Isn't THAT important tbh.

However I then thought if i'm gonna swap out to a 5th gen in about a year, why not go even cheaper save £48 and get an i3. That's whee I was coming from.

What do you reckon?

WhiteSnake91 · Jun 17, 2014

I would get the 8320 to be more futureproof, the consoles are using 8 core AMD cpu's now so the developers are going to start taking advantage of more cores, and dx12 is supposed to scale well with more cores from what I've read. The tomshardware review of watch dogs demonstrated this by the 8350 soundly beating the 6300, I'd spend the 30 more to be more futureproof. One day the 6300 might not perform as well as you'd like, and you'd have wished you got the 8 core instead. It would also be a beast at multitasking.

logainofhades · Jun 17, 2014

If you are not concerned with Broadwell, you could go i5 with an H81 board.

WhiteSnake91 · Jun 17, 2014

yeah I suggest an i5 with h81 motherboard still, i5 is going to multitask pretty much as well as the 8 core AMD for the normal user. With an i5 you won't have to upgrade. People are still using the 1st gen i5 and i7 fine, can you say the same about all the people being bottlenecked by their old phenom quad cores?

Primordial Genesis · Jun 17, 2014

WhiteSnake91 :

I don't consider the 8320 future proofed because it has literally no upgrade path....That's what puts me off.

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