Any incompatibilities in my planned build?

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Approximate Purchase Date: this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: completely depends on what I can find in Hong Kong's legendary Golden Computer Arcade :)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, movies, internet

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: Completely New Build

Do you need to buy OS: Yes. Windows 7 Home Premium or Professional (haven't decided)

Location: Hong Kong. I will buy everything at a computer mall called the Golden Computer Arcade.

Overclocking: Maybe at a later date

Crossfire: Maybe at a later date

Desired Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I'll be playing Skyrim (Modded with ENB), Tomb Raider and Witcher 3 on it

Why Are You Upgrading: Even though my HP Envy 15 is quite a wonderful lappy...it's still a lappy.

My Planned Build:

Mobo: Asus Z97-A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132118

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899

GPU: VAPOR-X R9 290 4GB GDDR5 TRI-X OC (UEFI)
or VAPOR-X R9 290 4GB GDDR5 TRI-X (UEFI)
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1227&pid=0&psn=000101&lid=1&leg=0
or VisionTek CryoVenom r9 290 (...if I can find a good deal...)
https://www.visiontekproducts.com/index.php/component/virtuemart/graphics-cards/visiontek-cryovenom-liquidcooled-series-r9-290-detail?Itemid=0

RAM: DDR3 1600 8GB - 2 4GB sticks
Any good brand: Kingston, Crucial, Corsair, G.SKILL, OCZ, Patriot (Whichever I find cheaper)

SSD: Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239046
or Crucial M500 240GB SATA 2.5-Inch 7mm Internal SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148694
or Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5-Inch SSD
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-EVO-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TE250BW/dp/B00E3W1726

HDD: Western Digital Blue 1 TB Desktop Hard Drive: 3.5 Inch, 7200 RPM, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache - WD10EZEX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339

Optical Drive: Asus 24x DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Power Supply: Seasonic X-850 80 Plus Gold
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151102
or Corsair axi series AX860i 860W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139041
or XVX Pro 850W Black Edition Single Rail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207001
or Antec HCG M HCG-850M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371067

Monitor: Haven't narrowed it down much yet. I know I want good colors and dark levels and that it needs to be crossfire compatible for a future upgrade.
Acer H236HLbid 23”
AOC i2369V 23” 6ms
AOC i2367Fh 23” 5ms
Samsung S24D590PLX PLS 23.6 inch LED HDMI Monitor

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium or Professional

QUESTION IS HERE
This is my planned build as it stands now. Sorry for all the ORs. Those choices will depend on the deals I find at the Computer Mall I will shop at if they are all viable. I will go shopping for parts this weekend and want to know if there are any glaring errors in my build I should be aware of before buying. I am only buying one gpu now, but want to be able to buy a twin and upgrade to a crossfire config in the future. I need to know if there any incompatibilities in the pieces I've picked out. Thank you so much for anyone who has the time to look at it.
 
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There are a lot of size intervals above 1600 for ram. What's a good quality for value size? And that's a nice case, thanks.
 
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Dang. Gotta spend more. Guess it's better to find out now than later though. And thanks for the clarification about monitors.



I considered getting an i7 but several people said there is no performance gain between 4th gen i5 and i7. That newest model i7 is $100 more. Would it actually make any kind of a noticeable difference?
 
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Well if gaming is the heaviest thing you're doing, you won't notice the difference; Hyperthreading (the biggest advantage of the i7) only helps if you're doing heavy rendering or video editing.
 
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Gaming is pretty much the only demanding thing I'll be doing, so I guess I'll stick with the i5. How is the "rendering" you're talking about different from what games have to render?
 
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How is the "rendering" you're talking about different from what games have to render?
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As I understand it, games render screenspace in real time using all sorts of tricks to make most of the math doable on the GPU. OTOH, CGI rendering is very high fidelity, creating fixed fps video at less than real time speeds and using basically unlimited amounts of processing power and using math that (for one reason or another) needs to run on the CPU. It ends up being lots of little calculations that are dependent on one another so more threads (even virtual ones) is really important.

I'm not an expert at all though so most of that is speculation...

(Actually I would be really interested to hear a more accurate explanation myself)
 
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This is all I've got:
Games are always designed to use a set number of threads, so for example some tasks within the game are divided between cores/threads so that core 1 does thing 1, core 2 does thing 2 and so on. This all has to be very accurately optimized and designed for the game to be stable and is hard/time consuming to do. That's why games rarely use more than 4 cores/threads.

While rendering/editing, there are tons of little processes that are divided across all available threads/cores. More threads means you have less work for a single core/thread since the same number of processes is now divided between more cores/threads. This makes rendering and editing much faster.

^^That's the way I always understood it, but I could be wrong too.
 
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