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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 9:29:08 AM

Hello.

I'm in need of a pc for gaming and video editing and programing.

I put together this http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/gy8XYJ, the stuff that's purchased it just stuff the I have not used ( There from what was meant to be other build but it never went ahead.)

If there are any improvements/problems please let me know.

As I plan on OCing I was wondering if I need a bigger PSU as there isn't a lot a head room.
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PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£182.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£110.36 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£132.94 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£53.49 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.70 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.70 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For £45.95)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£78.90 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For £11.47)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (Purchased For £0.00)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition 62.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£10.20 @ Aria PC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans (£19.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For £10.82)
Other: EVGA ACX Active CPU Cooler (Purchased For £26.99)
Total: £1297.35

Thanks for all you help in advance :) 

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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 9:31:29 AM

its good except id get 2x8 gigs so u can get up to 32 gigs eventually.

restlooks good

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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 9:33:37 AM

iceclock said:
its good except id get 2x8 gigs so u can get up to 32 gigs eventually.

restlooks good



Cool thanks didn't think of that :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 9:34:39 AM

no problem u always want a good upgrade path :) 

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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 9:36:04 AM

iceclock said:
no problem u always want a good upgrade path :) 



Agreed. Also do you know anywhere that has any OC info on the I5 devils canyon CPU?
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June 17, 2014 9:37:08 AM

Yup, this is a brilliant looking build. PSU should easily be enough since it's a high quality unit.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 9:42:22 AM

My first tip is that you should not get and SLI-enabled PC right out of the box. Even though it is theoretically more powerful, scaling is not 100% and there are other issues to go along with that. Secondly, This also prevents you from going SLI again later down the road, so when you need to upgrade again, you have to ditch those two cards and go for a new one entirely at a full expensive price of a newer GPU. Third, it consumes a lot more power, very close even to the limits of that 750W power supply, although that's not too much of a concern. What it does do, however, is use a lot more power than a single card and also generate a lot more heat, especially in a more closed off and close quarters environment that SLI presents. Finally, that's not that great of an SLI setup at this point, because we are transitioning to an era of high resolutions that require a lot of VRAM, and while a single 770 with 2GB VRAM is perfect for single monitor 1080P gaming and editing and such, the 2GB of VRAM will limit it on higher resolutions, even with the added GPU power. Remember, VRAM doesn't stack, so if you have 2 GPUs each with 2GB VRAM, you will only have 2GB VRAM available to use.

What I would recommend is that you get either a GTX 780 Ti, or an R9 290 / R9 290X, those are around the same price as your SLI configuration. While you may get a little less power out of the GPU initially, you will get a ton more power in the future with an SLI upgrade for a lot less, considering when you need to upgrade a 780 Ti will cost a lot less than it does now. It will also consume less power, generate less heat and noise, and has 100% scaling (it is only a single GPU), and has 3GB of VRAM, so it will last longer.

Hope this helps!!

SIDE NOTE: Swapping the 770's to the 4GB VRAM variants will not change anything, as it is proven that the 256-bit memory buffer on the GTX 770 cannot allow the extra 2GB on the 4GB card to be used, and usually people who use the 4GB 770 get within the margin of error performance (for example, in gaming, 0-2 FPS difference, sometimes the 2GB being better even, hence the margin of error) as those who have the 2GB model, so DON'T do that.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 9:58:28 AM

i do agree that powersupply would run2 770s but best get maybe a 850watt ps and 1 770 4 gigabyte since apcs13 noted vram doesnt stack.

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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 11:41:52 AM

apcs13 said:
My first tip is that you should not get and SLI-enabled PC right out of the box. Even though it is theoretically more powerful, scaling is not 100% and there are other issues to go along with that. Secondly, This also prevents you from going SLI again later down the road, so when you need to upgrade again, you have to ditch those two cards and go for a new one entirely at a full expensive price of a newer GPU. Third, it consumes a lot more power, very close even to the limits of that 750W power supply, although that's not too much of a concern. What it does do, however, is use a lot more power than a single card and also generate a lot more heat, especially in a more closed off and close quarters environment that SLI presents. Finally, that's not that great of an SLI setup at this point, because we are transitioning to an era of high resolutions that require a lot of VRAM, and while a single 770 with 2GB VRAM is perfect for single monitor 1080P gaming and editing and such, the 2GB of VRAM will limit it on higher resolutions, even with the added GPU power. Remember, VRAM doesn't stack, so if you have 2 GPUs each with 2GB VRAM, you will only have 2GB VRAM available to use.

What I would recommend is that you get either a GTX 780 Ti, or an R9 290 / R9 290X, those are around the same price as your SLI configuration. While you may get a little less power out of the GPU initially, you will get a ton more power in the future with an SLI upgrade for a lot less, considering when you need to upgrade a 780 Ti will cost a lot less than it does now. It will also consume less power, generate less heat and noise, and has 100% scaling (it is only a single GPU), and has 3GB of VRAM, so it will last longer.

Hope this helps!!

SIDE NOTE: Swapping the 770's to the 4GB VRAM variants will not change anything, as it is proven that the 256-bit memory buffer on the GTX 770 cannot allow the extra 2GB on the 4GB card to be used, and usually people who use the 4GB 770 get within the margin of error performance (for example, in gaming, 0-2 FPS difference, sometimes the 2GB being better even, hence the margin of error) as those who have the 2GB model, so DON'T do that.


So how much power would I need to run SLI (2-way) 780ti?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 11:58:53 AM

850+ watts of quality power would be great

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/GwnwkL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/GwnwkL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£182.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£110.36 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£132.90 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£53.49 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.70 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.70 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For £45.95)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£114.36 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For £11.47)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (Purchased For £0.00)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition 62.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£10.20 @ Aria PC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans (£19.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For £10.82)
Other: EVGA ACX Active CPU Cooler (Purchased For £26.99)
Total: £1332.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-17 19:58 BST+0100

should be good mate

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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 12:07:08 PM

iceclock said:
850+ watts of quality power would be great

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/GwnwkL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/GwnwkL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£182.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£110.36 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£132.90 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£53.49 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.70 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.70 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For £45.95)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£114.36 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For £11.47)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (Purchased For £0.00)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition 62.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£10.20 @ Aria PC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans (£19.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For £10.82)
Other: EVGA ACX Active CPU Cooler (Purchased For £26.99)
Total: £1332.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-17 19:58 BST+0100

should be good mate



As I said before, I highly do NOT recommend a SLI set up with a brand new PC, as do most PC experts.

OP, if you have the type of money to SLI two GTX 780s out of the get go, you might as well just invest in a single GTX Titan Black. They're top-tier cards and over the top completely in performance and price, but it's again close to the level of performance of SLI 780's, but you have the option to SLI ANOTHER Titan Black in the future for two of the best cards (right now) in one PC. The Titan Black also uses 6GB of VRAM, so there's no worries there either.

Also, I don't know about where you live and what retailers you use, but one GTX Titan Black is actually cheaper than two GTX 780's where I live, so you pretty much win on all levels. The Titan Black is the best single GPU on the planet right now.

Then again, if this is too much for you, you can always back down to a GTX 780 Ti, that's a phenomenal gaming GPU as well, or the R9 290X, which is a little less powerful than the GTX 780 Ti, but comes with 1GB more VRAM, so you can use it at higher resolutions without worrying about your VRAM being used up.

I would say either a GTX 780, 780 Ti, or R9 290X if you want to go with a single card, or if you can afford the price of 2x GTX 780's, might as well go with a single GTX Titan Black for around the same price and power, but without the SLI issues and the option to go higher resolutions and add ANOTHER Titan Black down the road in the future.

Keep in mind, unless you desire 4K gaming, you really don't need much more than a single 780 Ti for gaming and most other tasks, anything beyond that (and even a 780 Ti at 1080P or lower) is basically overkill unless you really need High Resolutions or 120 FPS in games.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2014 9:09:53 PM

Decent PC for the money but I'd suggest getting a 850W or even 950W PSU to run two GTX 770s in SLI.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 21, 2014 6:45:53 PM

850watt +gtx 780 or 780ti would do good

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