Better CPU for gaming and future proof??

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cydialover

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Stuck between Intel E3 1230 V3 or i5 4670K ??

Intel E3 1230 V3 seems future proof as supports HT for games using more then 4 core
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i5 4670K I may OVERCLOCK i guess even if i'm buying a Overclockable Mobo as it may decrease the lifespan

Processor: Intel E3 1230 V3 or i5 4670K
MotherBoard: MSI Z97 PC Mate 32GB DDR3 (this one only as it support Broadwell CPU)
Ram: Corsair Vengeance (8x1) GB DDR3 RAM 1600 MHz
Storage: 1TB WD Blue
Graphics card: Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4 GB
Power Supply: Seasonic 650
Cabinet: NZXT Phatom 410/530

 
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If you ever plan to overclock, you will need the overclockable mobo anyway. But if you know that overclocking is unlikely, then a locked cpu and H-series mobo will work just fine

A large number of games don't really use the 4 cores of a quad core anyway, and few actually go past 4. People have been saying "get more cores for future proofing" since I first started building my computer a year ago and I have seen literally nothing change aside from BF4 actually getting released. That being said, more threads will help if you ever want to get into video editing. But even then, I do light video editing just fine on my 4670k.

My point is: If you never want to overclock, get an H97 board and the xeon (or even a locked i5 if it's a fair bit...
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No such thing as future proof.

And while overclocking decreases the lifespan of your components, it's a completely non-factor (as long as you aren't pushing OCs or pushing weak, low quality components) as your CPU, even overclocked, will easily surpass it's usability span before it dies from overclocking.
 
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which one is better according to you for future gaming ??
Intel E3 1230 V3 or i5 4670K
 
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If you ever plan to overclock, you will need the overclockable mobo anyway. But if you know that overclocking is unlikely, then a locked cpu and H-series mobo will work just fine

A large number of games don't really use the 4 cores of a quad core anyway, and few actually go past 4. People have been saying "get more cores for future proofing" since I first started building my computer a year ago and I have seen literally nothing change aside from BF4 actually getting released. That being said, more threads will help if you ever want to get into video editing. But even then, I do light video editing just fine on my 4670k.

My point is: If you never want to overclock, get an H97 board and the xeon (or even a locked i5 if it's a fair bit cheaper). I say the xeon because it is a pretty good deal for what you're getting and a quality cpu

If you EVER want to potentially overclock: get a Z97 board with the 4670k, as you obviously won't be able to do so if the hardware doesnt support it. Lifespan will be perfectly normal at stock settings (and if you have quality parts you will probably replace your computer before you blow something up).

You also might want to go for the 2 4gb ram sticks instead of the 1 8 gb


*Also keep in mind, you need an aftermarket cooler if you ever want to overclock
 
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I would go for the i5 4670K with a good waterblock and overclock it. The xenon does not overclock well as it is not unlocked and it turbo boosts lower too. It has more cache but that is not significant enough vs the higher turbo boost in games. With the i5 you can sell you motherboard and i5 standalone in a PC without the graphics card as the i5 has a decent GPU inside it. In any case, the i5 with a waterblock will easily outperform the xenon and thus will be better for games in the long run. If you decide to not overclock at first, for future proofing you can still get a waterblock cooler later for the i5 and get an extra ~20% performance out of it. I would go for the i5 but would also consider an i7 (my preference) which you didn't mention.
 
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The Xeon is the equivalent of an i7. It has hyperthreading.
 
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The differences are that the i7 has a built in GPU which the Xeon doesn't, the i7 runs 200mHz more out of the box and the i7 can be purchased in the K version for much better overclocking. http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1230-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4770K

I think the i5 is winner in this question as it is more flexible chip for overclocking and reselling without a graphics card.
 
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1. Get Yourself a Intel E3 1230 V3, with 8GB Stick of Ram (1600Mhz) at least you could upgrade your RAM to full Memory of 32GB in future now come to the PSU part get a Power Supply of at-least of 1000W.

2. P.S go for a Nvida Card as Nvidia soon be launching new technology
It seems that Nvidia has been working on a truly amazing new driver for its graphics cards. Even though MS has just announced DX12 – a new API that promises to offer better performance on CPU heavy titles – the green team is developing a new driver that will lessen the CPU overhead on a variety of DX11 titles.

3. According to the graphs that Nvidia has released, its new driver – that is planned for release in a couple of weeks – will offer performance similar to AMD’s Mantle in both Star Swarm and THIEF. It’s pretty amazing what Nvidia is doing with its driver skills, and we cannot wait to see whether the green team’s changes will affect other CPU bound titles

4. And for the Motherboard the Board you've chosen is good enough.

And for the Storage go for a higher RPM Drive.
these specs will save your future of gaming ;)
 
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I'll reiterate what others have said and add my own points.

1. Overclocking doesn't immediately mean that games will run smoother. Only a few of my games have benefitted and even then, only by a marginal amount.
2. Overclocking doesn't reduce the lifespan of the CPU, it's the untreated increase in heat which does that. As long as you keep the temperature low, the CPU will last a lifetime.
3. Buy x2 4GB RAM to utilise dual-channel.
4. I have a WD Blue and it performs well, just make sure it's the 7200rpm desktop variety.
5. The GPU is very good, but perhaps overkill. An R9 280X or GTX 770 makes more sense unless you're gaming across multiple monitors.

As enemy1g said, there's no such thing as future-proofing, but that doesn't mean your build will be obselete in three years. Mine's around that age and is still going strong.

Going back to the processors, I'd urge you to buy the Xeon. Overclocking is a nice hobby, but it offers an irrelevant performance boost. Does it really matter that a game runs at 80 FPS rather than 70 FPS?
 
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The whole "Overclocking reduces the lifespan of the cpu" thing is a non-issue. Unless you are doing crazy overclocks with LN2 it wont be an issue - The CPU may only last 10 years instead of 15, either way, it will last until its well out of date.
 
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