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so my friends is getting low fps on games than what we expected , comparing to videos on youtube (same graphics card , and same processor ) he gets lower fps ,what is wrong with the build? i thot it was the RAM but i saw some benchmarks (4gb vs 8gb), and the difference is not that big , so anyone can help?
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Windows 8 (64 bits)
AMD FX-6300 3.8GHz
AMD Radeon R9 270x DDR5 2GB VRAM
4 GB RAM DDR3 1333MHz
HD 1TB SATA
600w corsair
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2





 
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If you mean that his system only has 4 GB vs the other systems having 8 GB of RAM, having more RAM is beneficial. A minimum amount for gaming that you should be aiming for is 8 GB. Games already have their minimum and recommend system specs and while that is a guideline, depending on what other applications you have running in the background, that will also affect your system RAM and CPU usage. Having more RAM will help with that.

Also, you are noting fps only in this question. Do you know what resolution and graphics settings that the youtuber is playing the game at? Maybe your friends system is playing at medium and 1080p, while the youtuber is playing at low and 720p...that will yield a huge difference in fps. Factoring in the youtuber having twice the RAM, and that would probably explain it. Of course, you also have to consider the youtuber might be using a SSD or faster HDD. Or the RAM might be a higher speed and lower latency version. The youtube might have overclocked the CPU or GPU too.

There are a lot of factors to consider and unless you know for sure you have the exact same system and using the exact same settings, then having a different fps really does not matter for comparison.
 
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There are less than 5 games that use more than 4gb of ram. They recommend 6 or 8 because many pc gamers have a shitload of stuff running in the background. And btw unless the games are 64bit (most aren't) it can't access more than 4gb anyway. Having more ram doesn't add fps, it just makes the game playable or not. Running a game that requires more than 4gb on less than 4gb will either cause the game to drop fps to single digit numbers or cause freezes seconds long or the game might not run at all.
 
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The thing is, having 8 GB RAM in a system that does have a lot of background tasks going, even if the game only uses 4 GB RAM, having more will help the RAM work better and take some of the load off of the CPU, which will provide better fps because the CPU can focus more on the game itself.
 
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So he is using a 1440x900 monitor , and its lower resolution the videos that we saw was on 1080p with bether frame rates , u think that the RAM should be the problem?
 
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Well you didn't state which game and what FPS you were getting.
Since you increased the resolution and it got better, I'm suspecting the processor. As you increase the resolution, the processor bottleneck decreases. The game shifts more of its load off of the processor and onto the Graphics Card at higher resolution. The only way to really determine this is to check the % load of the processor and graphics card.
 
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Using a program like OBS or Elgato Game Capture HD, or whatever to record gameplay, you can set the recording to 1080p even if the game is not played at 1080p. I am not sure if you mean the youtuber or your friend is gaming at 1440 x 900. If his monitor is only 1440 x 900, then that is the resolution he is playing games at, but a recording could still be set to 1080p. Of course driver updates, background tasks, overclocking, etc also play roles in all of that.
 
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So , my friend play at 1440x900 , and the videos we saw was on 1080p gameplay.Games like watch dogs , crysis 3 ,i saw videos with the r9 270x running at 35-40 fps , on 1080 p ultra settings , on his computer he plays at 900p on hight or medium settings and get like 25-30 fps . thtas the problem

 
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Well the second link is pretty worthless because the video is rendered through some video editing software and done so poorly. Also they do not show the fps and settings in the video to show how the fps fluxes while playing the game. The third link is pretty crappy too because the person just put annotations claiming what they want, where are the videos showing those statistics.

The first video is pretty good and as you can see there are several times the fps dips to 15 or so with the AMD GPU. But yes, it does seem to get more fps than your friend's build is getting. If you look in the info of the first video link, there is a link to the article where they go more in depth about the build and everything... to save you some time, here it is: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-the-next-gen-digital-foundry-pc
Read over that and compare that information to your friend's system. Also note that they might be using other software and tricks to maximize game performance.
 
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