4930K, X79 Dark, and... 2133 RAM? Need assistance...

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Hello all!

I'm prepping to build a new PC and am wanting to dip my toes in overclocking a little bit. I've never (intentionally) overclocked a CPU before, and haven't really touched RAM aside from playing with things to stop previous builds from BSOD'ing me. With that said, what I'm currently looking at for the build is this:

Processor:
Intel i7-4930K

Motherboard:
EVGA X79 Dark

GPU'S in SLI (Not On Sale Yet):
ASUS STRIX GTX 780 6GB OC
ASUS STRIX GTX 780 6GB OC

Power Supply:
SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular

Storage:
Seagate 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid
Seagate 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid

Case:
Cooler Master HAF XB Evo

Now for the RAM question:

Through a lot of reading and studying the grandmaster of RAM Tradesman1 here on the Tom's Hardware forums, I've come to the conclusion that with me not looking to go incredibly far with OC'ing 2133 MHz RAM is my safest and likely most stable speed to go for.

That being said, for some reason I am very determined to fill all of those RAM slots... Call it OCD or cleanliness, that's what I feel I should go for in order to take advantage of the X79/LGA 2011 capabilities of handling 64GB's of RAM.

So far my narrowed research has brought me to these two:

Kingston HyperX Beast 64GB DDR3-2133 (KHX21C11T3FK8/64X)

G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 64GB DDR3-2133 (F3-2133C9Q2-64GZH)

I know Tradesman1 highly favors the G.Skill's, but for some reason they just seem so cheesy looking to me and don't seem like they would match my build much [enter insults at my superficial-ness here]. Also, the Kingston RAM is the cheaper of the 64GB kits in the market right now and seem plenty capable of competing with the G.Skill's. If I need to just grow up and go with 32GB's and the lesser attractive G.Skill's, please say so. :)

So there's my rant... Any thoughts, suggestions, or remarks are welcome. I record a tech podcast with a friend and we will be building our new comps on video for our site, so with stepping into slightly unknown territory, I would like to make sure I get this right.

Thank you very much for any time that any of you happen to put in to providing me with advice. It's greatly appreciated.
 
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Do you have a need for 64GB? I've found very few that do...One option might be 32GB of either the Tridents in 2133/9 or 2400/10 (same price at the Egg $360)

F3-2133C9Q-32GTX or F3-2400C10Q-32GTX, both of which are great sets....

If however you want 64GB, you could expand your search to to include sets of 64GB in 1866/10 which is about the same as 2133/11 performance wise - w/ 64GB sets though as far as GSkill it's pretty much just the variants of the RJ Z sticks, those you are looking at the Red or light blue, the RJ Z sets are slightly optimized for true Quad Channel.

Another option that's a possible that I've used on a few occasions, is the Trident X sticks abouve with two sets of of the 32GB 2400/10 sets. I normally recommend...

Tradesman1

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Do you have a need for 64GB? I've found very few that do...One option might be 32GB of either the Tridents in 2133/9 or 2400/10 (same price at the Egg $360)

F3-2133C9Q-32GTX or F3-2400C10Q-32GTX, both of which are great sets....

If however you want 64GB, you could expand your search to to include sets of 64GB in 1866/10 which is about the same as 2133/11 performance wise - w/ 64GB sets though as far as GSkill it's pretty much just the variants of the RJ Z sticks, those you are looking at the Red or light blue, the RJ Z sets are slightly optimized for true Quad Channel.

Another option that's a possible that I've used on a few occasions, is the Trident X sticks abouve with two sets of of the 32GB 2400/10 sets. I normally recommend against mixing sets period, but I've run these together at 2133/9 without much problem at all, generally just manual setup and raising the VCCSA (which is pretty much required anyway for 64GB), No guarantees, but the sticks are strong to start with and seem to play nice at 2133 (and once at 2400/10)

 
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No, I don't really need the ram now, but perhaps in the future. This really is a future proofing build. I think I could be happy with 32GB's, it's mostly my OCD side that doesn't want dust to get into the open slots, because I neglected to fill them. Haha. In regards to the hybrid drives, I actually already use a 2TB and it boots maybe 2 seconds slower than my friend's SSD only I have FAR more hard drive space for much cheaper. I have a friend at work that uses the same 2TB and has had similar experience. My friend with the SSD told me the other day that he plans to get hybrid drives for his new build as well.
 

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Admittedly, I don't have a need for the 64GB's right now. I guess I wanted to hit it early on, because of the understanding that you shouldn't mix kits. So if at some point down the road I need more, I don't want to have to buy a whole new kit of ram, because I couldn't add on to what I already had.

If I went with the 2133 or 2400 Tridents, would it be advisable to down clock them for better timings, or just leave them as stock with the XMP profile?
 

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As far as freq goes, I'd stay at stock and utilize the full bandwidth, there are some exceptions, but for most sets the of Tri's the timings are already there with the fastest sticks available in each freq i.e. 1600/7, 1866/8, 2133/9, 2400/10, 2666/11, 2800 12 though do have a second set of 2666 at 12 (in the 32GB sets) and I've OCed them up a step, i.e. my 2666/11 run fine at 2800/12
 

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Wonderful! That is really good to know. One last question. In your first reply, you suggested going with the F3-2133C9Q-32GTX, which is a 4X8GB setup. Is there any advantage to going with 4X8GB, rather than 8X4GB? Again, this is my OCD side wanting to fill all 8 slots. A part of me wants to say that going with 4X8GB would be better as each stick's individual size is larger, but I really don't know.
 

Tradesman1

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Going 8x4GB can be a bit of a performance hit (minor) as it's more stress on the MC running 8 sticks rather than 4, also even though it's quad channel you are running through 2 pipes in each channel rather than 1....it can also affect OCing the CPU,,, again slight, but when going for performance you look to gain where you can, so the 4x8GB is a bit of a plus
 

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That's good enough for me. I'll plan to get the 4X8GB's then. Thank you very much for your assistance on this. I appreciate it a lot. Now I just need to wait for the ASUS STRIX 780 6GB cards to be released and I'll be good to go!