Replaced almost everything, still having GPU issues. Mobo related?

JoeODanger

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Hi guys, long time lurker first time poster here. I turn to you because in years of building my own rigs, I have never run into a problem that I could not solve like this.

First, let me get to the issue. I noticed artifacting, but it was not like the usual artifacts I would get from a failing GPU or heating. This is not my image, but is EXACTLY what I was getting:

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The links are to imgur.

While annoying, a quick alt-tab would solve it lickity split so I didn't think too much about it. I ran memtest to cover that angle too, and sure enough, I failed on test 8 once. Not wanting to chance it, I RMA'd the RAM to Corsair. (I want to point out that this solved a different issue I was having with lockups every hour or so for 20 seconds. Probably best to bring it up even if it seems unrelated). I used DDU to clean my drivers, tried a couple of revisions, made sure all my other drivers were up to date, tweaked the BIOS settings, tried with other RAM that is known to be good, no go. No matter what game was loaded up, I would get the chessboard. Sometimes it was black and white, sometimes it was colored based on what was behind it on screen. Temps were 50c under stress, sometimes a tad higher if it was hot outside, and about 30c idle.

My specs:
CPU- AMD FX 6350 at stock speeds w/ Cooler Master Vortex
GPU- Formerly MSI HD7790 factory OC @2g, now XFX DD Edition R9 270x @2g
RAM- Corsair XMS 1600mhz 2x4g DDR3
PSU- Some cheap 750w Coolmax (I'm so sorry, never again), now Antec Blue 750w
Mobo- MSI 970A-G46
Drive- Samsung 150g SSD


The list of things I tried:
-Different monitor
-Different HDMI/VGA/DVI cable
-Different power strip/different outlet
-pointing a fan at my open case (even though temps were low, you never know)
-reinstalled all AMD drivers (wiped with DDU)
-updated BIOS and chipset
-made sure my SSD was current on firmware
-cleaned DIMMs and PCI-E slot

Feeling like it was time to upgrade anyways while I was waiting, I decided to ditch my MSI HD7790 for an XFX R9 270x. While I was at it, I dropped the Coolmax for an Antec 750 Blue that was on sale. Should be the end of that, right?

I get home, toss everything together with the newly arrived Corsair RAM, and things are going great. On the second night, Mr. Boxes decides to drop in uninvited. I could feel my heart sink. On top of the boxes, I now had delayed loading of textures in a game I was playing called SMITE on max settings and some pretty aggravating z-fighting on bright things (glow, lights, fires, etc).

I then ran OCCT, which reported errors (though the test did not end, and the graphs at the end reported '0 errors' in them).

I reinstalled Windows (which was an effort and a half thanks to MS' policy to OEM), fresh installed the drivers that came with the 270x to test before grabbing the newest ones, and ran OCCT again.

This time I detected significantly less errors (900 vs 16000) and again the test did not stop automatically. This time, I saw this in the graphs:

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For about 15 minutes, my FPS was abysmal, which coincides with the weird flatlining of the vin0. Is this normal? I know software tests are not the best judge, but it looks to go hand-in-hand with the period of lower FPS. For some reason, my 12v rail is also as having 15v on the monitoring screen.

I am testing in games right now to see if the checkers come back, but it can take some time.

I'm at wits' end, really. The only two things left in the box that were originally there are the motherboard and the SSD. With regards to the mobo, I am unable to test the card in a different PCI-E slot due to the unfortunate placement of the SATA outlets.

I'm looking at a second RMA, this time for a second new GPU, and I'm very hesitant to buy a new motherboard, only to have another 100 and some odd dollars fall down the artifact rabbit hole again. Of course, I will if I have to. When I examined the mobo and cleaned it, I did not notice any scoring, cracked soldier/parts, or bulging/leaking capacitors.

What do you think? Is that OCCT result normal? If not, what could be the cause? Did I really get a second GPU that just so happened to result in the exact same type of artifacts at the same size, or is my mobo slowly killing parts?



Thank you greatly, for anyone who braved that wall of text. I'll hear any idea, no matter how wild. I'm darn near calling an exorcist for my poor computer.
 
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OH i see you did DDU. Try Catalyst Uninstall. I have read that someone with the same issue used that and did a driver reinstall and it got rid of the little black boxes.

JoeODanger

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Thanks for the reply! I remember using Catalyst uninstall once as well as AMD's removal utility, but then switched to DDU when a friend told me to use it (I used to use Driver Sweeper).

I'll need to head to bed, but after work tomorrow I hope to test my system with various games to see if the full un-and reinstall of Windows fixed any kind of driver/directx weirdness I might have had going on. I'll make sure to post the results. Still curious about that weird voltage/fps drop in OCCT though, for sure!

 

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So a followup, I returned the 270x and picked up a GTX 760. While I was at it, I ditched my mobo and picked up an Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0. This also meant fresh drivers for everything, and a new BIOS.

Things worked great for a day or two, and then the artifacts came back. The square one hasn't reappeared, but the flickering textures are there, and the slow load of textures are there. Let's say my character in a game dies, and respawns. For a second or two, the features on my character are completely blank and muddy before the details on them 'load'. I'm not even mad anymore. It's like, I was always meant to have these artifacts in my life. At this point the only two things in my computer that are from the original issue are my SSD and my CPU.

Could all this time my CPU have been bum and causing artifacts in a game? I have never really heard of this happening before. I did notice that running 3DMark that my physics score (cpu) was only about 4300, which is pretty dang below expectations.

Did I manage to pick out a second power supply that somehow caused the same artifacts as the first, and instead of causing shutdowns and instability, only causes flickering textures and artifacts?

Did my SSD get possessed by the spirit of a vengeful spirit?

Honestly, I am at a complete loss. I've love to hear any thoughts anyone has on this.