Yet another music production pc query!
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Emid
June 18, 2014 8:12:32 AM
Hi guys,
I know this has been asked and discussed so many times, sorry about me asking again. I was reading many threads before posting my query and I found everyone has got his own criteria which might suit one but not others.
Its time to build a powerful pc solely dedicated to music production. I am a noob and have no idea where to start from.
What I came to know from many posts is that firstly a high end multi core processor (someone mention 8 cores - is there any higher?) is required. Secondly as much ram as one can afford. Thirdly SSD drive for fast performance. In my understanding these are the three major components for a music production pc after reading the post.
Now, am going to run one software which is Presonus Studio One but in future I will get Cubase 7.5 and ProTools. Apart from this, I have A LOT of Kontakt and non Kontakt libraries, mostly installed on a 1.5TB external drive. There are many other synths vsts which are really memory hog so I want a one time 64gb ram or at least 32gb that MUST be upgradable to 64gb. I am not going to play any game apart from auditioning some again for scoring purpose or sometimes watching movies may be. My music genre is cinematic orchestral +/- hybrid electronic so one can assume that I am going to run large templates and huge libraries. I will also run two to three screens but can settle on two.
I was advised once not to comprise on i7 4xxx and basically am after i7. Don't know about the cores as well as what is overclocking but fellow composers say its faster than AMD(???). Let me know if overclocking has benefits? So am also open to any other suggestions aside from i7.
Price is not an issue but no one ignores cheaper options. I will buy the monitors myself but will surely consider any advise.
Please advise.
Many thanks in advance.
ps: Am in UK. Please give me the reference of those who can do exports if located outside.
I know this has been asked and discussed so many times, sorry about me asking again. I was reading many threads before posting my query and I found everyone has got his own criteria which might suit one but not others.
Its time to build a powerful pc solely dedicated to music production. I am a noob and have no idea where to start from.
What I came to know from many posts is that firstly a high end multi core processor (someone mention 8 cores - is there any higher?) is required. Secondly as much ram as one can afford. Thirdly SSD drive for fast performance. In my understanding these are the three major components for a music production pc after reading the post.
Now, am going to run one software which is Presonus Studio One but in future I will get Cubase 7.5 and ProTools. Apart from this, I have A LOT of Kontakt and non Kontakt libraries, mostly installed on a 1.5TB external drive. There are many other synths vsts which are really memory hog so I want a one time 64gb ram or at least 32gb that MUST be upgradable to 64gb. I am not going to play any game apart from auditioning some again for scoring purpose or sometimes watching movies may be. My music genre is cinematic orchestral +/- hybrid electronic so one can assume that I am going to run large templates and huge libraries. I will also run two to three screens but can settle on two.
I was advised once not to comprise on i7 4xxx and basically am after i7. Don't know about the cores as well as what is overclocking but fellow composers say its faster than AMD(???). Let me know if overclocking has benefits? So am also open to any other suggestions aside from i7.
Price is not an issue but no one ignores cheaper options. I will buy the monitors myself but will surely consider any advise.
Please advise.
Many thanks in advance.
ps: Am in UK. Please give me the reference of those who can do exports if located outside.
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Joseph DeGarmo
June 18, 2014 8:19:17 AM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£407.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.13 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£184.55 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£266.01 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£266.01 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Intel 730 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£148.52 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£126.00 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (£191.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (£102.70 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£91.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£41.70 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£71.60 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1924.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£407.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.13 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£184.55 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£266.01 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£266.01 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Intel 730 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£148.52 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£126.00 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (£191.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (£102.70 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£91.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£41.70 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£71.60 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1924.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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BleedingEdgeTek
June 18, 2014 8:27:57 AM
I am 100% sure you don't need anywhere near 64GB of RAM.
Here's my suggestion. The CPU + cooler will be damn near silent, and the GPU is passively cooled so it's silent.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£176.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS5X Performa CPU Cooler (£12.39 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£60.90 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£104.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (£17.80 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£26.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£28.51 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) (£103.90 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £634.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Edit: The Xeon is an 8-threaded CPU exactly like the i7, just doesn't have the integrated graphics chip.
And the above build is extreme overkill
Here's my suggestion. The CPU + cooler will be damn near silent, and the GPU is passively cooled so it's silent.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£176.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS5X Performa CPU Cooler (£12.39 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£60.90 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£104.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (£17.80 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£26.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£28.51 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) (£103.90 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £634.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Edit: The Xeon is an 8-threaded CPU exactly like the i7, just doesn't have the integrated graphics chip.
And the above build is extreme overkill
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Emid
June 18, 2014 8:53:02 AM
Thank you very much for super fast replies. Really impressive. Good to have these extreme build specs in hands to start with.
@ BleedingEdgeTek, I guess you are in music production which is why you are so sure of the specs you have mentioned. But I beg to differ regarding the ram option. I already currently have 16gb which needs a lot of bouncing of the tracks as work around. A template with Audiobro LASS alone eats more than half of the ram installed in my computer. Your suggestion though seriously an eye catching in terms of price. If possible, please let me know a build with higher specs to be care free for at least some years. Also if the ram is upgradable in your specs and to how much if upgradable? Many thanks for a very budgeted info though. Surely consider higher budget specs.
@Joseph, your specs are really powerful and I will certainly have a look into these. Thanks a lot
@ BleedingEdgeTek, I guess you are in music production which is why you are so sure of the specs you have mentioned. But I beg to differ regarding the ram option. I already currently have 16gb which needs a lot of bouncing of the tracks as work around. A template with Audiobro LASS alone eats more than half of the ram installed in my computer. Your suggestion though seriously an eye catching in terms of price. If possible, please let me know a build with higher specs to be care free for at least some years. Also if the ram is upgradable in your specs and to how much if upgradable? Many thanks for a very budgeted info though. Surely consider higher budget specs.
@Joseph, your specs are really powerful and I will certainly have a look into these. Thanks a lot
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BleedingEdgeTek
June 18, 2014 9:07:20 AM
Well for more peace of mind, here's the build with 32GB of RAM then.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£176.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS5X Performa CPU Cooler (£12.39 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£65.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£230.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (£17.80 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£26.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£28.51 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) (£103.90 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £765.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The build above mine is certainly extremely fast, but you definitely don't need something like the 760, and definitely don't need a CPU that expensive, (and in turn don't need that expensive of a motherboard) You certainly won't see a 250% performance improvement to account for the 250% price increase.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£176.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS5X Performa CPU Cooler (£12.39 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£65.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£230.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (£17.80 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£26.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£28.51 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) (£103.90 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £765.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-18 17:03 BST+0100
The build above mine is certainly extremely fast, but you definitely don't need something like the 760, and definitely don't need a CPU that expensive, (and in turn don't need that expensive of a motherboard) You certainly won't see a 250% performance improvement to account for the 250% price increase.
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Joseph DeGarmo
June 18, 2014 9:13:04 AM
BleedingEdgeTek said:
Well for more peace of mind, here's the build with 32GB of RAM then.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£176.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS5X Performa CPU Cooler (£12.39 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£65.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£230.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (£17.80 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£26.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£28.51 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) (£103.90 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £765.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-18 17:03 BST+0100
The build above mine is certainly extremely fast, but you definitely don't need something like the 760, and definitely don't need a CPU that expensive, (and in turn don't need that expensive of a motherboard) You certainly won't see a 250% performance improvement to account for the 250% price increase.
The OP stated that he will run some games for scoring purposes or something like that, hence the GTX 760 video card.
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BleedingEdgeTek
June 18, 2014 9:18:02 AM
Joseph DeGarmo
June 18, 2014 9:25:20 AM
BleedingEdgeTek said:
Well even for then, if it's simply for scoring purposes, running at 720p at minimal settings will be just fine on the 5450. Certainly doesn't need a card capable of Ultra at 1080p with AA to test that.The 5450 is considered a weak card and some games will not run on it. A GTX 750 should work if he does not need a strong video card, but the games will run better at 1080p due to the CPU.
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BleedingEdgeTek
June 18, 2014 9:30:46 AM
Like I said, he doesn't need to run games at 1080p, as he's testing the score. Running games at 240p would be sufficient to do this. If it would make you feel better:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $44.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The 610 has PLENTY of power to do what he would need it to do. The 750 is even overkill
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $44.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The 610 has PLENTY of power to do what he would need it to do. The 750 is even overkill
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Joseph DeGarmo
June 18, 2014 9:49:11 AM
BleedingEdgeTek said:
Like I said, he doesn't need to run games at 1080p, as he's testing the score. Running games at 240p would be sufficient to do this. If it would make you feel better:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $44.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The 610 has PLENTY of power to do what he would need it to do. The 750 is even overkill
Like I said, a video card of that tier will not run on certain games. Crysis 3 and Watch Dogs will certainly not run on it. Even games like Mass Effect 3 are too much for it.
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BleedingEdgeTek
June 18, 2014 9:51:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8eTuC7rwSc
Crysis 3 running on a 610. AGAIN, to SIMPLY TEST OUT THE SCORE, a card capable of high settings in 1080p is completely pointless.
Crysis 3 running on a 610. AGAIN, to SIMPLY TEST OUT THE SCORE, a card capable of high settings in 1080p is completely pointless.
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Emid
June 18, 2014 10:37:44 AM
Thank you again. You guys are really helpful and I seriously now have a solid ground and I can see where I stand. I just feel I am bothering you guys otherwise I had some more queries regarding the setup
Joseph's specs seem powerful and top notch while BleedingEdgeTek's not only seem high end but also bang for the buck. I can't pick up who is best as both look best.
Thank you very much. Appreciate your kind help.
Joseph's specs seem powerful and top notch while BleedingEdgeTek's not only seem high end but also bang for the buck. I can't pick up who is best as both look best. Thank you very much. Appreciate your kind help.
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BleedingEdgeTek
June 18, 2014 10:40:23 AM
Emid
June 18, 2014 11:05:45 AM
Ok thanks
Well...I wanted to know if it will be possible to do 5.1 or higher sorround on both setups? I haven't done this yet. I use Akai EIE Pro as external audio interface. Also, although 32gb for sure will be enough but will it be upgradable? Lastly, as you seem to go for the less money yet high class stuff, what if (just in case) I need 1080p for viewing?
Well...I wanted to know if it will be possible to do 5.1 or higher sorround on both setups? I haven't done this yet. I use Akai EIE Pro as external audio interface. Also, although 32gb for sure will be enough but will it be upgradable? Lastly, as you seem to go for the less money yet high class stuff, what if (just in case) I need 1080p for viewing?
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Emid
June 18, 2014 11:17:02 AM
BleedingEdgeTek
June 18, 2014 11:22:35 AM
If you do need 1080p for viewing either solution I've posted will work. If you need 1080p for gaming then something like the R7 260x/265 or GTX 750/750 ti will get you there quite nicely, and the power supply linked above will be plenty sufficient for these as well.
The motherboard I linked only has 4 DIMM slots for RAM, with support up to 32GB of RAM. You would need to get a different motherboard for 64GB of RAM if that circumstance would ever come up. Something to think about, but it depends if that amount is ever needed. If 64GB is a necessity, you would want to go with the 8 DIMM socket 2011, which would cost a good bit more, plus the additional cost of RAM.
The motherboard I linked only has 4 DIMM slots for RAM, with support up to 32GB of RAM. You would need to get a different motherboard for 64GB of RAM if that circumstance would ever come up. Something to think about, but it depends if that amount is ever needed. If 64GB is a necessity, you would want to go with the 8 DIMM socket 2011, which would cost a good bit more, plus the additional cost of RAM.
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Emid
June 18, 2014 11:35:39 AM
BleedingEdgeTek
June 18, 2014 11:43:33 AM
Joseph DeGarmo
June 18, 2014 6:09:02 PM
BleedingEdgeTek said:
Well for more peace of mind, here's the build with 32GB of RAM then.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£176.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS5X Performa CPU Cooler (£12.39 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£65.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£230.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (£17.80 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£26.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£28.51 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) (£103.90 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £765.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-18 17:03 BST+0100
The build above mine is certainly extremely fast, but you definitely don't need something like the 760, and definitely don't need a CPU that expensive, (and in turn don't need that expensive of a motherboard) You certainly won't see a 250% performance improvement to account for the 250% price increase.
That motherboard does not support 64 GB RAM. You'll need a socket LGA2011 board for that.
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BleedingEdgeTek
June 18, 2014 6:36:38 PM
I acknowledged that and told him that above... I told him if he wants 64GB of RAM he would need to go for the 2011 socket.
The motherboard I linked only has 4 DIMM slots for RAM, with support up to 32GB of RAM. You would need to get a different motherboard for 64GB of RAM if that circumstance would ever come up. Something to think about, but it depends if that amount is ever needed. If 64GB is a necessity, you would want to go with the 8 DIMM socket 2011, which would cost a good bit more, plus the additional cost of RAM.
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If you do need 1080p for viewing either solution I've posted will work. If you need 1080p for gaming then something like the R7 260x/265 or GTX 750/750 ti will get you there quite nicely, and the power supply linked above will be plenty sufficient for these as well.The motherboard I linked only has 4 DIMM slots for RAM, with support up to 32GB of RAM. You would need to get a different motherboard for 64GB of RAM if that circumstance would ever come up. Something to think about, but it depends if that amount is ever needed. If 64GB is a necessity, you would want to go with the 8 DIMM socket 2011, which would cost a good bit more, plus the additional cost of RAM.
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Emid
June 18, 2014 11:16:41 PM
I have a straight forward question to you BleedingEdgeTek now. Hope you don't mind me beating about the bush. Also I hope this thread will serve best for other people similar to my scenario.
In virtual instruments world even 64gb with overclocked systems working in sorround is NOT enough. If you want I can give you link of a forum's thread where people are asking more than i7, 64gb (in short). As Joseph has given me the advise matching my requirement, I humbly ask you if you can sort me out the specs for the similar but in Xeon. I have heard nothing but only good about this beast. I hope you don't mind me asking again as you guys are really helpful. Although am ready to invest in any budget but as I said earlier, you've got very specific budget oriented approach and I am sure I can save some money based on your specs.
Many thanks again.
In virtual instruments world even 64gb with overclocked systems working in sorround is NOT enough. If you want I can give you link of a forum's thread where people are asking more than i7, 64gb (in short). As Joseph has given me the advise matching my requirement, I humbly ask you if you can sort me out the specs for the similar but in Xeon. I have heard nothing but only good about this beast. I hope you don't mind me asking again as you guys are really helpful. Although am ready to invest in any budget but as I said earlier, you've got very specific budget oriented approach and I am sure I can save some money based on your specs.
Many thanks again.
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Joseph DeGarmo
June 19, 2014 3:18:58 AM
A Xeon 6-core at a similar price will only be clocked at 2.6 GHz and a Xeon 8-core at 2.6 GHz will cost twice as much as an i7-4930k. You could overclock the i7 since it's a great overclocking CPU. That will give you the best performance for the money. I edited my build to throw in a better cooler and PSU for that purpose.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£407.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£73.68 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£184.55 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£266.01 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£266.01 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Intel 730 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£148.50 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£126.00 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (£191.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (£102.70 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£168.18 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£41.70 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £2057.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£407.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£73.68 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£184.55 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£266.01 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£266.01 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Intel 730 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£148.50 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£126.00 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (£191.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (£102.70 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£168.18 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£41.70 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £2057.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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BleedingEdgeTek
June 19, 2014 4:43:04 AM
Yet again, the 760 is overkill, that power supply is a waste of money and watts, and you're limiting him to 64 GB. Admittedly, all great quality parts, but that power supply is extremely unnecessary, as is that expensive case.
Emid, here is a build updated to allow upgrading to 128GB of RAM. The motherboard fully supports 128GB of RAM, and I have the link you can buy the 4x16GB kit from Amazon. Like Joseph said, the 4930k will give you the best price/performance on the 2011 socket, especially with overclocking capabilities and 12 threads.
The Noctua will cool better than the AIO water coolers, and will also be much quieter at load, on top of being less worry. You will also need Windows 8 Pro to take advantage of this amount of RAM as well. THIS is the best price/performance build, and is only 1500 quid with 64GB of RAM, or 1860 with 128GB of RAM.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£407.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£75.02 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI X79A-GD45 Plus ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£133.85 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£78.10 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£126.00 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card (£104.01 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case (£37.27 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.00 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£41.70 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) (£103.90 @ Ebuyer)
Other: 4x16GB RAM (£362.44)
Other: 4x16GB RAM (£362.44)
Total: £1867.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-19 12:40 BST+0100
Emid, here is a build updated to allow upgrading to 128GB of RAM. The motherboard fully supports 128GB of RAM, and I have the link you can buy the 4x16GB kit from Amazon. Like Joseph said, the 4930k will give you the best price/performance on the 2011 socket, especially with overclocking capabilities and 12 threads.
The Noctua will cool better than the AIO water coolers, and will also be much quieter at load, on top of being less worry. You will also need Windows 8 Pro to take advantage of this amount of RAM as well. THIS is the best price/performance build, and is only 1500 quid with 64GB of RAM, or 1860 with 128GB of RAM.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£407.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£75.02 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI X79A-GD45 Plus ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£133.85 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£78.10 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£126.00 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card (£104.01 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case (£37.27 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.00 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£41.70 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) (£103.90 @ Ebuyer)
Other: 4x16GB RAM (£362.44)
Other: 4x16GB RAM (£362.44)
Total: £1867.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-19 12:40 BST+0100
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Joseph DeGarmo
June 19, 2014 4:52:27 AM
BleedingEdgeTek said:
Yet again, the 760 is overkill, that power supply is a waste of money and watts, and you're limiting him to 64 GB. Admittedly, all great quality parts, but that power supply is extremely unnecessary, as is that expensive case.Emid, here is a build updated to allow upgrading to 128GB of RAM. The motherboard fully supports 128GB of RAM, and I have the link you can buy the 4x16GB kit from Amazon. Like Joseph said, the 4930k will give you the best price/performance on the 2011 socket, especially with overclocking capabilities and 12 threads.
The Noctua will cool better than the AIO water coolers, and will also be much quieter at load, on top of being less worry. You will also need Windows 8 Pro to take advantage of this amount of RAM as well. THIS is the best price/performance build, and is only 1500 quid with 64GB of RAM, or 1860 with 128GB of RAM.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£407.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£75.02 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI X79A-GD45 Plus ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£133.85 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£78.10 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£126.00 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card (£104.01 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case (£37.27 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.00 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£41.70 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) (£103.90 @ Ebuyer)
Other: 4x16GB RAM (£362.44)
Other: 4x16GB RAM (£362.44)
Total: £1867.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Looks more reasonable. Finally looks like a build we can agree on.
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June 19, 2014 6:51:37 AM
You nailed it BleedingEdge! Thank you. Thanks a million
Not only 64gb but an extended variant and cost effective...wow! Plus as you both agree on this machine, needless to say now it is perfect. I will link this post for anyone who is interested in upgrading his system and trust me there are many.
Thank you again for your time and effort Joseph and BleedingEdge
Cheers.
Not only 64gb but an extended variant and cost effective...wow! Plus as you both agree on this machine, needless to say now it is perfect. I will link this post for anyone who is interested in upgrading his system and trust me there are many. Thank you again for your time and effort Joseph and BleedingEdge
Cheers.
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June 19, 2014 7:12:03 AM
Joseph DeGarmo
June 19, 2014 7:40:48 AM
sora
June 19, 2014 8:58:03 PM
BleedingEdgeTek said:
Well for more peace of mind, here's the build with 32GB of RAM then.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£176.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS5X Performa CPU Cooler (£12.39 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£65.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£230.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (£17.80 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£26.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£28.51 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) (£103.90 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £765.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-18 17:03 BST+0100
The build above mine is certainly extremely fast, but you definitely don't need something like the 760, and definitely don't need a CPU that expensive, (and in turn don't need that expensive of a motherboard) You certainly won't see a 250% performance improvement to account for the 250% price increase.
The 5450 is quite old for a 765 quid build...
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