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June 18, 2014 11:37:41 AM

Hi! I just bought an SSD, and I'm currently running windows 8.1 on my HDD, I have my OS on C: and other programs on D:. I would like to ask you guys if this procedure to install my new SSD is possible

-unplug the HDD
-plug the SSD
-should I make 1 more partition for little storage and the other one is the OS?
-install windows
-re plug HDD
-move games and programs from HDD to SSD
-format C: drive

Done!

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a b G Storage
June 18, 2014 11:52:55 AM

Nah, you'll want to reformat and reinstall windows fresh on the new SSD. You can't simply move the programs and games. There's also no need to partition the SSD for the OS separately, you can simply leave it as one main drive that you want to install games/programs on for speed. You'll want to use one of your slower drives to store media such as music, videos and documents while running your games and programs from the SSD.

So I would:

Remove your C and D hard drives.
Install ONLY your SSD
install windows and configure for one large drive (no separate data partitions beyond what windows creates)
Once windows is installed, configured and all drivers are up to date for your system, then start re-installing all of your programs and games fresh.
Then you can pull any files you may have missed from your other drives and format if you wish to use them for slower data drives.
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June 18, 2014 11:56:04 AM

If your new ssd is large enough to hold the contents of your "C" hard drive, the easiest thing to do is to clone your hard drive to the ssd.
Intel and Samsung have clone utilities that work with their drives.

If you need to do a clean install, use windows easy transfer to export your files and settings from the "C" drive.
Disconnect all other drives and reinstall windows on the ssd.
You can then use easy transfer to import your files and settings.
Since your registry will be new and unpopulated, you will need to reinstall any programs that have registry entries. That will be most of them.
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a b G Storage
June 18, 2014 11:57:58 AM

DO NOT partition your solid state drive.

You will probably want to do a fresh install of Windows on your SSD as well; they require some special stuff that HDD windows won't be prepared to work with.

From there, use a partitioning tool ONLY on your Hard drive. My preference is to have a dedicated SSD for games, and on that, have a NTFS Drive Folder (Mount as Empty NTFS folder...) for Hard drive stuff. Keeps it centralized without populating Explorer for every partition you have.
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June 18, 2014 12:16:07 PM

Depending on the model of the SSD, you can just migrate the OS via software to the SSD without having to reinstall c:
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a b G Storage
June 18, 2014 12:28:18 PM

I guess. I always like a clean install, because it means you're not bringing over any potential problems. Good practice anyway.
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June 18, 2014 12:50:19 PM

cirdecus said:
Nah, you'll want to reformat and reinstall windows fresh on the new SSD. You can't simply move the programs and games. There's also no need to partition the SSD for the OS separately, you can simply leave it as one main drive that you want to install games/programs on for speed. You'll want to use one of your slower drives to store media such as music, videos and documents while running your games and programs from the SSD.

So I would:

Remove your C and D hard drives.
Install ONLY your SSD
install windows and configure for one large drive (no separate data partitions beyond what windows creates)
Once windows is installed, configured and all drivers are up to date for your system, then start re-installing all of your programs and games fresh.
Then you can pull any files you may have missed from your other drives and format if you wish to use them for slower data drives.

Thanks for the answer! how do I format my HDD after installing OS on SSD? can I just format the C: drive only and keep D:? sorry not experienced here :) 

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a b G Storage
June 18, 2014 12:54:47 PM

blessiusseptian said:
cirdecus said:
Nah, you'll want to reformat and reinstall windows fresh on the new SSD. You can't simply move the programs and games. There's also no need to partition the SSD for the OS separately, you can simply leave it as one main drive that you want to install games/programs on for speed. You'll want to use one of your slower drives to store media such as music, videos and documents while running your games and programs from the SSD.

So I would:

Remove your C and D hard drives.
Install ONLY your SSD
install windows and configure for one large drive (no separate data partitions beyond what windows creates)
Once windows is installed, configured and all drivers are up to date for your system, then start re-installing all of your programs and games fresh.
Then you can pull any files you may have missed from your other drives and format if you wish to use them for slower data drives.

Thanks for the answer! how do I format my HDD after installing OS on SSD? can I just format the C: drive only and keep D:? sorry not experienced here :) 



My personal method:
Back up anything important from your HDD.
Format the whole damn thing and delete all the partitions on it. You'll create those later, in Windows. This gives you lee-way to decide how you want to re-partition it without the Berlin Wall showing up.

If you want to keep a certain partition:
Make note of its memory size (in MB) and Drive letter. This will help you identify it when you have the Windows OEM disc in. From there, it should be self explanatory once you're in the disc; select custom (or advanced) install, and you can see all your partitions. Delete and or format the ones you want to deal with.

What I like to do is have both hooked up and format the HDD, then restart without the HDD plugged in. You don't want them both in as that can cause strangeness with boot records (and which one it's resident on)

Alternatively, once you have your OS installed and started on your SSD, go Start-->Create and form... (should pop up with: Create and Format Hard Disk Parititions). Use that tool to delete/format the old HDD partitions. Be careful with what you're doing though! Missteps mean lost data.
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June 18, 2014 12:56:52 PM

geofelt said:
If your new ssd is large enough to hold the contents of your "C" hard drive, the easiest thing to do is to clone your hard drive to the ssd.
Intel and Samsung have clone utilities that work with their drives.

If you need to do a clean install, use windows easy transfer to export your files and settings from the "C" drive.
Disconnect all other drives and reinstall windows on the ssd.
You can then use easy transfer to import your files and settings.
Since your registry will be new and unpopulated, you will need to reinstall any programs that have registry entries. That will be most of them.


Okay! I'll try using windows easy transfer, thanks :) 
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June 18, 2014 12:57:28 PM

blessiusseptian said:
cirdecus said:
Nah, you'll want to reformat and reinstall windows fresh on the new SSD. You can't simply move the programs and games. There's also no need to partition the SSD for the OS separately, you can simply leave it as one main drive that you want to install games/programs on for speed. You'll want to use one of your slower drives to store media such as music, videos and documents while running your games and programs from the SSD.

So I would:

Remove your C and D hard drives.
Install ONLY your SSD
install windows and configure for one large drive (no separate data partitions beyond what windows creates)
Once windows is installed, configured and all drivers are up to date for your system, then start re-installing all of your programs and games fresh.
Then you can pull any files you may have missed from your other drives and format if you wish to use them for slower data drives.

Thanks for the answer! how do I format my HDD after installing OS on SSD? can I just format the C: drive only and keep D:? sorry not experienced here :) 



In the instalation menu of the OS, when selecting the target drive, format the former OS partition from the HDD, then format the SSD and install the OS in the SSD. You'll be left with the OS in the SSD and a HDD with two partitions, one being empty (former OS partition) and the other should remain untouched.
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June 18, 2014 1:04:44 PM

canadianvice said:
blessiusseptian said:
cirdecus said:
Nah, you'll want to reformat and reinstall windows fresh on the new SSD. You can't simply move the programs and games. There's also no need to partition the SSD for the OS separately, you can simply leave it as one main drive that you want to install games/programs on for speed. You'll want to use one of your slower drives to store media such as music, videos and documents while running your games and programs from the SSD.

So I would:

Remove your C and D hard drives.
Install ONLY your SSD
install windows and configure for one large drive (no separate data partitions beyond what windows creates)
Once windows is installed, configured and all drivers are up to date for your system, then start re-installing all of your programs and games fresh.
Then you can pull any files you may have missed from your other drives and format if you wish to use them for slower data drives.

Thanks for the answer! how do I format my HDD after installing OS on SSD? can I just format the C: drive only and keep D:? sorry not experienced here :) 



My personal method:
Back up anything important from your HDD.
Format the whole damn thing and delete all the partitions on it. You'll create those later, in Windows. This gives you lee-way to decide how you want to re-partition it without the Berlin Wall showing up.

If you want to keep a certain partition:
Make note of its memory size (in MB) and Drive letter. This will help you identify it when you have the Windows OEM disc in. From there, it should be self explanatory once you're in the disc; select custom (or advanced) install, and you can see all your partitions. Delete and or format the ones you want to deal with.

What I like to do is have both hooked up and format the HDD, then restart without the HDD plugged in. You don't want them both in as that can cause strangeness with boot records (and which one it's resident on)

Alternatively, once you have your OS installed and started on your SSD, go Start-->Create and form... (should pop up with: Create and Format Hard Disk Parititions). Use that tool to delete/format the old HDD partitions. Be careful with what you're doing though! Missteps mean lost data.


Alright! Thank you very much for the answer :) , now I know what to do.
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June 18, 2014 1:06:49 PM

6R1M01R3 said:
blessiusseptian said:
cirdecus said:
Nah, you'll want to reformat and reinstall windows fresh on the new SSD. You can't simply move the programs and games. There's also no need to partition the SSD for the OS separately, you can simply leave it as one main drive that you want to install games/programs on for speed. You'll want to use one of your slower drives to store media such as music, videos and documents while running your games and programs from the SSD.

So I would:

Remove your C and D hard drives.
Install ONLY your SSD
install windows and configure for one large drive (no separate data partitions beyond what windows creates)
Once windows is installed, configured and all drivers are up to date for your system, then start re-installing all of your programs and games fresh.
Then you can pull any files you may have missed from your other drives and format if you wish to use them for slower data drives.

Thanks for the answer! how do I format my HDD after installing OS on SSD? can I just format the C: drive only and keep D:? sorry not experienced here :) 



In the instalation menu of the OS, when selecting the target drive, format the former OS partition from the HDD, then format the SSD and install the OS in the SSD. You'll be left with the OS in the SSD and a HDD with two partitions, one being empty (former OS partition) and the other should remain untouched.


Gotcha! Thanks Grimoire :D 
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June 18, 2014 1:07:47 PM

If you are doing a clean install of windows to a ssd, do not have any other drives attached.
If you do, windows will place a hidden recovery partition on the second drive. That complicates things later if you ever need to remove the second drive.
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a b G Storage
June 18, 2014 1:23:35 PM

geofelt said:
If you are doing a clean install of windows to a ssd, do not have any other drives attached.
If you do, windows will place a hidden recovery partition on the second drive. That complicates things later if you ever need to remove the second drive.


Take note! My response didn't make this as clear as it should have.

Make certain that if you install Windows, only one drive is in during the installation part. You can have both in while you format partitions, but take it out and restart before continuing.
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June 18, 2014 1:59:38 PM

canadianvice said:
geofelt said:
If you are doing a clean install of windows to a ssd, do not have any other drives attached.
If you do, windows will place a hidden recovery partition on the second drive. That complicates things later if you ever need to remove the second drive.


Take note! My response didn't make this as clear as it should have.

Make certain that if you install Windows, only one drive is in during the installation part. You can have both in while you format partitions, but take it out and restart before continuing.


Okay! thanks for the note.
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