Intel i3 4130 running very slow on new build

Scot Frei · Jun 19, 2014

I just bought a new barebones to replace a mid-range system I bought about 5 years ago. I migrated my video card over.
After a rocky start, its running, but when I play games, they seem laggy. I did some benchmarking. My 3Dmark benchmark was passable, except for a 2 fps (!?) physics test. This pointed me to the CPU. I ran PerformanceTest for both CPU and GPU. My GPU (Geforce 9600GT) benchmarked exactly at the same level as others of its kind. My CPU, on the other hand is running at 1/2 to 1/3 the speed of others of its kind.
I'm running an i3 4130 on a Gigabyte H81M-HD2 with 8GB of ram.
Can anybody think of any diagnostics I could do to identify why its running slow? Anything immediately leap to mind to check as a common newbie mistake after installation? I've set power settings to high performance and the bios is relatively recent (Jan 2014) and nothing more recent was on the Gigabyte website.
Thanks in advance.

itsVance · Jun 19, 2014

I compared your GPU with another of its level here:
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-4850-vs-GeForce-GT-9600

According to them that particular GPU is very poor at crunching numbers.

What CPU were you using before?

Tom Tancredi · Jun 19, 2014

***nearly spits out my drink... *** Wow you need to back up OP.
The 9600GT is on the NO SUPPORT LIST, first off. So your using something that even Nvidia says toss in the trash.
Second your then using it to circumvent your onboard GPU that Haswell comes with, the i3 4130 which would even though built into the CPU run a hell lot faster then that old card.
Third a i3 is a 'entry level CPU', meant for 'General PC use'. Yes it will be okay for some low end gaming but because it only has 2 cores, it can't perform when the MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS is QUAD (4) core PCs. So that was a mistake in itself.

Lastly you didn't mention WHAT games you were playing and having problems with. If your talking WatchDogs for example you completely blew it, as every article and discussion requires a t least a i7 CPU, Nvidia 760 or 770 or even AMD R9 to play it 'reasonably'. If your trying to (as it appears ) make a $200 or under gaming PC, there is no such thing and your wasting your money (return it all back for a refund). You would BETTER performance, no issues even on heavy end games like WatchDogs, and still be 'in budget' with a PS3/Xbox360 console ($149)

itsVance · Jun 19, 2014

Tom Tancredi :

***nearly spits out my drink... *** Wow you need to back up OP.
The 9600GT is on the NO SUPPORT LIST, first off. So your using something that even Nvidia says toss in the trash.
Second your then using it to circumvent your onboard GPU that Haswell comes with, the i3 4130 which would even though built into the CPU run a hell lot faster then that old card.
Third a i3 is a 'entry level CPU', meant for 'General PC use'. Yes it will be okay for some low end gaming but because it only has 2 cores, it can't perform when the MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS is QUAD (4) core PCs. So that was a mistake in itself.

Lastly you didn't mention WHAT games you were playing and having problems with. If your talking WatchDogs for example you completely blew it, as every article and discussion requires a t least a i7 CPU, Nvidia 760 or 770 or even AMD R9 to play it 'reasonably'. If your trying to (as it appears ) make a $200 or under gaming PC, there is no such thing and your wasting your money (return it all back for a refund). You would BETTER performance, no issues even on heavy end games like WatchDogs, and still be 'in budget' with a PS3/Xbox360 console ($149)

I wasn't going to say it like that.

Scot Frei · Jun 19, 2014

I'm trying to play the same games I played BEFORE upgrading my CPU (The Secret World, Guild Wars 2, League Of Legends). Yes. I know my GPU is rather old. It is not, however, the problem. The problem is the CPU which is NOT RUNNING AT ADVERTISED SPEEDS. I have since run Intel's own diagnostics on the CPU and its speed is consistently around half the advertised speed. Is there a bios issue which could cause my CPU to run unusually slowly? How likely is it that I got a bad CPU? Are there any further diagnostics I could/should run?

Tom Tancredi · Jun 19, 2014

OP: I am guessing you mean this one: http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-031726.htm And your saying it FAILS in the test? If not then what is your 'expected' speed, where are you getting this expectation from, and why?

Secondly, If your testing with the Intel's Diags, did you try with the GPU removed? Do you get the same results?
Simple questions

itsVance · Jun 19, 2014

Scot Frei :

Is the diagnostic tool telling you 'failed' ?

Look where it says:

"--- Reading CPU Frequency ---

Expected CPU Frequency is --> 2.67

Detected CPU Frequency is --> 2.80044

CPU Frequency Test Passed!!!"

"--- Temperature Test ---

Temperature Test Passed!!!

Temperature = 42 degrees C below maximum."

What does yours say?

Scot Frei · Jun 19, 2014

That is indeed the one. I'm getting some variation in the speeds. It is saying "Failed", "Expected frequency 3.4", last test was "1.68". But I have also gotten 1.48 and 1.61. So some variation, but always below parameters. I've shut down all processes I can, and those that remain in the task manager are all 0 cpu consumption.
This mirrors my results from the Passmark CPU tests I ran before that. http://www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm
I'm looking for installation errors, bios issues, or some way of verifying it is, in fact, a bad processor.
I haven't removed my PCIE card because I didn't think it would be a factor and, truthfully, its a pain to get in and out (cables blocking it in). If you think its a definite possibility, I'll try removing it.

itsVance · Jun 19, 2014

Scot Frei :

Some motherboards come with software which will let you change your CPU's clock speed from windows, others you have to go into the BIOS.

Its possible this setting has been changed somehow.

update:

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4867#manual

Look at page 18 in your manual. It tells about your clock settings in the BIOS.

Scot Frei · Jun 19, 2014

In the bios, it sees the cpu as running at 3.4. When I tested again after double-checking bios, it was still reading 1.69. Mystery continues.

itsVance · Jun 19, 2014

Scot Frei :

If its set properly, maybe a good time to call Intel and see if they will RMA?

Tom Tancredi · Jun 20, 2014

Scot Frei :

First have you taken out your GPU yet and retested this?

IF you have the same result WITHOUT THE GPU INSTALLED, no mystery here, first thing would be to reseat the CPU, but when you do so check the condition of the CPU, make sure nothing is bent out of the same shape as the rest of it. Reseat it and try again.

The BIOS is seeing it 'running'??? Are you sure (as in this is the new UEFI so you have some graphic display showing it 'running'?) or do you mean it REGISTERS it as a 3.4Ghz CPU? If you actually see a BIOS running meter of some sort, then Windows says otherwise, it sound potentially (as they will suggest BEFORE you RMA) your Windows is messed up. Try SAFE MODE and test again, do you get the same results in SAFE MODE as well?

WhiteSnake91 · Jun 20, 2014

your integrated graphics on the i3 are probably better than your old gpu, and that's odd it's performing badly....are you sure you put the heatsink on correctly and it had thermal paste?

Check cpu-z while you're gaming and see if it turbo boosts. My i5 downclocks itself to 1.6ghz just chilling on the internet but when gaming it turbo boosts up to the right speed.

Are you sure it's not your power supply? If it's the same one, after 5 years, it's possible it's gone bad.

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