GTX 780 vs GTX 770

gamer1411 · Jun 21, 2014

Is gtx 780 worth it? I will play only on one monitor 1920*1080.

gtx780 cost about 300$ more in my country.And don't just say "I would go for 780 because it is better". In that case I will buy 2X titan black.Please say why and why not.

Nortabun · Jun 21, 2014

the GTX 780 is only about 8-13 fps more than the GTX 770 in most games. That's not worth $300. If you don't mind AMD and wan't more performance per dollar get the R9 290, it's as good as a GTX 780 if not slightly better and much less expensive.

However based on your two choices a GTX 770 is enough for single monitored 1080p gaming, and it will most definitely max any game you throw at it , maybe not at a steady 60 fps for high demanding games, but certainly more than 30.

guitarmatt99 · Jun 21, 2014

Well, obviously you know the 780 will be better in the long run, but it's all up to you whether you think it's worth it, but by looking at the performance increase you will get compared to the price that you would be paying, I don't think it's worth it.

Here are some benchmark comparisons - http://home.anandtech.com/bench/product/1037?vs=1036

Just to be curious, how much is each card?

wolverine96 · Jun 21, 2014

I would get the GTX 770. That should be plenty for 1920x1080, especially if you get the 4GB version.

Can you give me some websites/stores that you plan on buying from? I would like to take a look at what they have.

CGurrell · Jun 21, 2014

Also take a look at the red teams r9 280x for comparisons with the 770, it has 1gb more vram (Good for games like watchdogs) but doesn't have features like geforce experience and shadowplay. I'd go for whichever you can get cheaper but that's just me lol

FireManDude · Jun 21, 2014

wolverine96 :

Squeezing 4GB through a 256-bit memory bus is not really the most effective !,you can find cards around the same price with a 500 range memory bus,making higher VRAM more effective!

Well actually it is better!,idk for what reason you are jumping to 2 titan blacks,but it is undeniable that the GTX 780 has much better performance and when OCd has very good results,plus which GTX 770 ? which GTX 780 ? does it have a good cooling solution ? or will you have a loud jet engine sitting inside your case,it all depends on the make

guitarmatt99 · Jun 21, 2014

wolverine96 :

[strike]Isn't the 4gb a bit overkill for 1080p? And isn't the 4gb limited by the small bus speed of 256bit?

Correct me if I'm wrong.[/strike]

FireManDude · Jun 21, 2014

guitarmatt99 :

Yes you are correct,i had addressed this in my comment that a large Vram needs a large bus to match! the R9 290 has very very good results for price and has a 510 memory bus which suits better for a 4GB Vram card!

guitarmatt99 · Jun 21, 2014

FireManDude :

Yeah, I saw your comment after I clicked 'answer', we both answered really quickly, I didn't purposely do it, [strike]it irritates me when people recommend the 4gb version of that card![/strike]

wolverine96 · Jun 21, 2014

Sorry! I didn't realize the VRAM ran at different speeds in the two versions! (I won't irritate you again, guitarmatt99.

)

In that case, just get the 2GB GTX 770.

guitarmatt99 · Jun 21, 2014

wolverine96 :

EDIT: Ignore this post, information is not entirely correct.

[strike]Both versions of the 770 run at the same bus speed of 256bit. However the 4gb card cannot utilise all of the memory because of the small bus speed.

It's like trying to shove twice as much data through the same sized hole... haha!

Sorry if that was a bad explanation, I tried my best!

[/strike]

oxiide · Jun 21, 2014

guitarmatt99 :

That's entirely untrue, it is able to use all of its VRAM if the game you're playing actually calls for it (Watch Dogs, ultra textures, 3.6 GB on my GTX 770).

Its generally a waste of money to have the 4 GB version, though, as virtually no games will use that much at 1080p. Strongly recommend the GTX 770 2 GB for 1080p gaming, the 780 makes more sense to have at 1440p or possibly 1080p/120 Hz.

guitarmatt99 · Jun 21, 2014

oxiide :

Really? This is not was I've read in the past, I've heard that the bus speed limits it, thanks for correcting me though, I'm going to have a read around as another guy also said the same thing as me on this thread.

wolverine96 · Jun 21, 2014

Okay... so was I right? They are exactly the same performance-wise until you actually need more than 2GB? If that is the case, I would say get whichever version you think you need (2GB or 4GB). The only reason I recommended the 4GB version was because the GTX 780 has 3GB.

oxiide · Jun 21, 2014

guitarmatt99 :

I've heard that before, it is a myth. Bus width describes the memory bandwidth, and therefore speed, but has no affect on the memory capacity.

guitarmatt99 · Jun 21, 2014

oxiide :

Thanks for the information, I've had a little look round and a lot of people say what I do too, but are corrected further down in the threads! You learn something new everyday.

17seconds · Jun 21, 2014

Don't believe it when people tell you a GTX 780 is overkill for a 1080p resolution. It can make all the difference, when playing certain games, between full maxed out settings and having to settle for less. The extra GB of VRAM is getting to be very useful these days. Even a game like Bioshock Infinite is using 2.4GB of VRAM on my 1080p rig. You would have to back off on the settings with a 770. All the same, the cost difference is very, very significant, so I'm sure you would be happy with the 770 2GB.

And I wouldn't hesitate to go for the 4GB version of the GTX 770. People tend to overthink these things, but the simple fact is that more VRAM is a good thing and will come in useful in some circumstances, even in a game like Bioshock Infinite, for example. We are in the era of Watch Dogs and the old notion that 2GB of VRAM is enough for 1080p is now over. Now, if you don't play Watch Dogs or full maxed out Bioshock Infinite, then 2GB should be plenty, but for the future, you're going to want more than 2GB.

Overall, the performance difference is about 15% between the two cards.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_280X_Gaming_6_GB/24.html

guitarmatt99 · Jun 21, 2014

wolverine96 :

Sorry about that, I'm just repeating what I've heard frequently, I generally try to read up about something to make sure it's correct before I post and I thought I knew, 4gb is usually not necessary at 1080p.

17seconds · Jun 21, 2014

guitarmatt99 :

I like your post. Just so you guys understand, there are certain things people say to support their favorite brand name video card. These things get repeated, then re-repeated and soon people start to take it as a fact. Always do your own research and don't just repeat things you have heard on an anonymous public forum.

gamer1411 · Jun 21, 2014

wolverine96 :

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gamer1411 · Jun 21, 2014

17seconds :

So if difference is about 15% for 2gb version,and for 4gb probably a little less,(example 12%),and gtx780 cost more fore like 70%,it is not worth to buy it?

17seconds · Jun 21, 2014

If you really don't want to spend the extra for a GTX 780, then I'm sure you'll be happy with a GTX 770. It's pretty much the most popular high-end video card of this current generation. They are a really good deal these days, and really the only big difference is that you'll need to tweak your settings a little more. In the end, you probably won't notice the difference in graphics quality after you get everything tweaked the way you like it.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

wolverine96 · Jun 21, 2014

I would buy the 4GB GTX 770, but if you need to pay 50% more for a GTX 780, it will not be 50% faster. Look at the graph in 17seconds' earlier post.

gamer1411 · Jun 21, 2014

17seconds :

And what about r9 280x?
Asus radeon is one of the fastest,and it cost about 390$. On the other hand gtx770,cost about 70$ more,and 4gb cost 100$ more.
r9 280x has 3gb,and 384 bit,and more shading units etc

Which one is better 770 or r9?

17seconds · Jun 21, 2014

gamer1411 :

Well, do you see the chart further up the page? Even a high-end factory overclocked 280x is a bit slower than a stock GTX 770. You also need to factor in things like PhysX, Adaptive VSync, HBAO+, etc., rather than just assume it's a simple price-performance proposition.

Also note that chart is making it clear that the extra VRAM is not making any difference at that resolution with those game settings.

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