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Running Certain Programs On Linux

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  • Virtual Machine
  • Windows 8
  • Linux
  • Video Capture
  • Dual Boot
  • Compatibility
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June 21, 2014 3:08:57 PM

I've got a good one for you guys:

I'm building a custom system and my friends and I have decided we don't want to pay 94 bucks for another version of windows 8. I have decided to tell Microsloth to shove it and I'm taking my very first wobbly baby steps into the world of Linux. I am going to be using this to start out (I know some of you will say it's not real linux, I know) so I can get a feel for linux. The only problem is, I know that there are a lot of programs that are linux compatible (like my video editor and audacity) but the monitor/capture card software that I use, obs doesn't really come with a linux download. I have a few questions:

1.) could I use wine for this and would it actually work nicely assuming I have good specs?

2.) could I boot up windows 7 or 8 on a virtual box and run it on a virtual box and have it work?

3.) if I could do both, which would make it perform better?

4.) if I use a virtual box, is there a way to copy windows 8 from my laptop and boot it up in the virtual box?

I would be using multiple monitors so I was thinking the virtual box Idea may work better but I need some good advice, and where else to go but you guys? :D  Thank you so much for all of your advice in advance

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a c 492 * Windows 8
a b 5 Linux
June 21, 2014 3:16:53 PM

Wine will work for some things, not all

Running in a Virtual Machine is no different than running on a whole other PC. That VM requires its own Windows license.

You can't use the license from your old laptop in a VM instance.
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June 21, 2014 4:09:11 PM

USAFRet said:
Wine will work for some things, not all

Running in a Virtual Machine is no different than running on a whole other PC. That VM requires its own Windows license.

You can't use the license from your old laptop in a VM instance.


So would it be better to use a virtual machine? would that at all hinder the performance?
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a c 492 * Windows 8
a b 5 Linux
June 21, 2014 4:14:29 PM

This depends completely on what you are actually wanting to do.

Is running an OS and its applications in a VM as 'fast' as on the native hardware? Generally, no.
Is running games in a VM a viable prospect. Not even a little bit.
Is Linux a good option for an OS? It all depends on what you want this PC to do.

I use Linux both natively, and in a VM in a Win 8 host OS. Both work very well for what I want them to do.

What do you want it to do?
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June 21, 2014 4:20:55 PM

I'm building a custom system. It's going to have AMD FX 6300 and eventually either 16gb or 32gb of Ram and a 2gb Graphics card I want to run a video recorder in a windows 8 vm. that's what I would mostly be doing for it. Would it be better to do a dual boot?
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a c 492 * Windows 8
a b 5 Linux
June 21, 2014 4:29:24 PM

Dual boot means running only one or the other. Select at boot time.

Running a VM means you can actually run 2 or more OS's at the same time, but whatever lives in the VM is somewhat hampered, especially WRT video.

I've never tried a video recorder in a VM. Try it and see what happens.
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June 21, 2014 4:36:30 PM

USAFRet said:
Dual boot means running only one or the other. Select at boot time.

Running a VM means you can actually run 2 or more OS's at the same time, but whatever lives in the VM is somewhat hampered, especially WRT video.

I've never tried a video recorder in a VM. Try it and see what happens.


Ok. I will try it on my laptop and see what happens. Thank you for your help. Do you know of any obs like programs that would run on linux?
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a c 492 * Windows 8
a b 5 Linux
June 21, 2014 4:56:59 PM

Sorry...don't know of a Linux equiv for that.
Doesn't mean one doesn't exist, though.
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June 22, 2014 1:50:52 PM

T-Nichs said:
I've got a good one for you guys:

I'm building a custom system and my friends and I have decided we don't want to pay 94 bucks for another version of windows 8. I have decided to tell Microsloth to shove it and I'm taking my very first wobbly baby steps into the world of Linux. I am going to be using this to start out (I know some of you will say it's not real linux, I know) so I can get a feel for linux. The only problem is, I know that there are a lot of programs that are linux compatible (like my video editor and audacity) but the monitor/capture card software that I use, obs doesn't really come with a linux download. I have a few questions:

1.) could I use wine for this and would it actually work nicely assuming I have good specs?

2.) could I boot up windows 7 or 8 on a virtual box and run it on a virtual box and have it work?

3.) if I could do both, which would make it perform better?

4.) if I use a virtual box, is there a way to copy windows 8 from my laptop and boot it up in the virtual box?

I would be using multiple monitors so I was thinking the virtual box Idea may work better but I need some good advice, and where else to go but you guys? :D  Thank you so much for all of your advice in advance


1. WINE is a user-space translation layer. It works well for parts of the Win32 API and older DirectX components, but that's about it. It will not work for drivers, or for applications that use other APIs.

2. If your video capture card does not have Linux drivers, and is not supported by the capture card drivers included within the Linux kernel, you are SOL. The only exception to this is if it is attached over USB because USB device drivers are user-mode and may be passed through to a VM if the virtualization software supports it. However, the USB host controller must have host drivers (this usually isn't a problem for Linux).

3. VM is generally better. Virtualization is much less hackish than translation, but virtual machines often can't meet real-time constraints so real-time software such as video/audio playback is hit and miss (more hit than it used to be).

4. VMWare has a tool for virtualizing a physical machine, but it's not very mature. It may work for Virtualbox, I dunno. I've never used it, and probably wouldn't want to. If you wish to transfer the Windows licence from your laptop you'll have to look into whether or not it is allowed. You certainly won't be allowed to run both at once unless they are on the machine (this is usually allowed with server operating systems).
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June 23, 2014 9:31:36 AM

T-Nichs said:
I'm building a custom system.... and eventually either 16gb or 32gb of Ram and a 2gb...

So, you are ready to pay $150/$300 for hardware you're not sure whether you will need it, and you "cannot afford" $100 for OS?
There's saying, "you cannot produce paint out of f@rt" ;) 
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June 24, 2014 6:53:05 AM

There is a version of obs that is platform independent https://github.com/jp9000/obs-studio/archive/master.zip

There are many video editors for linux and since zorin is Ubuntu based you'll be able to install with a click.

your most likely glitch to avoid is if you get an external video capture device make sure it is linux ready.
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