Best cpu and gpu for gaming

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

I want the best 'Intel Core 2 Quad' processor and a matched 'gpu' that will run all games like BF 4 at ultra setting at 1440 x 900 res @ 60 Hz and so there is as less bottleneck as possible. My budget is 11K (INR).My ram is 2 gb DDR2 which i will upgrade to 4 gb DDR2 (2x2 DDR2).

I also want to know if this motherboard will support all models of Core 2 Quad - Millennium 965 - http://millenniumtechnology.in/2013-05-10-12-38-53/motherboards/item/3-motherboard-965-775
And also want to know if any better 6 core cpu it will support.

i7Baby · Jun 22, 2014

http://ark.intel.com/products/40815/Intel-Core2-Quad-Processor-Q9550S-12M-Cache-2_83-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB - retails for $340!
- released in 2009!. I'd use one of the current lga1150 cpu's and mobos instead.

The mobo link says - LGA 775 , celeron D,Pentium4 ,core 2 duo ,dual core,core 2 Quad Cpu,FSB　1066/800/533MHZ

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

i7Baby :

What about gpu? And the cpu is above my budget.

bccorrupt · Jun 22, 2014

That motherboard is extremely old. All but the very fastest core2quads are going to be equal to or slower than a newer pentium dual core and that's assuming you can find a used one that can be trusted to work. You'd be better off going with a new GPU with the system you already have(I'm assuming you have a core2duo) and then upgrading the CPU/MB/RAM.

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

bccorrupt :

BUt will a core 2 duo have the power to run modern games like BF 4? And my cpu is Core2 DUo e4600 @ 2.4 GHz it's like about 6-7 years old

cub_fanatic · Jun 22, 2014

If it were me, I'd look for a motherboard with at least a 1333 FSB. The one you linked to only has 1066 FSB which is fine for something like a Q6600 or Q6700 but you will never be able to upgrade it or overclock it. Also, you will need at least 6GB of RAM and try to get at least 800 MHz. Right now, I am running a C2Q Q6600 on a 1333 FSB @ 3 GHz with 8GB DD2 800. I also have an HD7950 boost which can be found for dirt cheap right now and I am playing Titanfall, Wolfenstein, Thief, Watch Dogs, among other AAA games in 1080p fully maxed out (ultra or very high whatever is max) with AA @ x4 and I am getting at least 30 FPS and around 45-50 FPS on average in all of these basically brand new games. I paid $135 (USD) for the CPU/Motherboard/RAM and I paid $200 for the GPU. If you raise your budget to around $300-350 USD (~20k INR), you can easily find the same or similar parts to what I have and have a pretty good budget gaming rig. Using a 1066 FSB is a pretty big bottleneck on new games. I used to run the Q6600 @ 1066 FSB and could only manage high settings without a lot of stutter. Going to 1333 FSB and 3 GHz CPU clock basically eliminated that bottleneck. Also, with a 1333 FSB, you have the option of using LGA 771 Xeon quad core CPUs which are usually the same as the Core2 Quads but you need to do some modding to them and the CPU socket. For example, the C2Q Q9550 is typically selling for $120-150+ while the basically identical Xeon E5440 can be had for around $50. Also, in addition to a 1333 FSB, look for a board that has PCIe 2.0. It will give around a 15 to 20% improvement over PCIe 1.1 assuming you are using a single halfway decent/newer GPU. I'd look for anything from AMD Radeon with at least 3GB GDDR5 384-bit VRAM since the mining crash has resulted in thousands of them flooding ebay for dirt cheap and most of them are less than a year old if not still new in the box. I saw several new in the box R9 280xs selling for less than $200 USD some as low as $160 used. That GPU is a beast for gaming and is a step up from what I am currently running.

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

cub_fanatic :

If it were me, I'd look for a motherboard with at least a 1333 FSB. The one you linked to only has 1066 FSB which is fine for something like a Q6600 or Q6700 but you will never be able to upgrade it or overclock it. Also, you will need at least 6GB of RAM and try to get at least 800 MHz. Right now, I am running a C2Q Q6600 on a 1333 FSB @ 3 GHz with 8GB DD2 800. I also have an HD7950 boost which can be found for dirt cheap right now and I am playing Titanfall, Wolfenstein, Thief, Watch Dogs, among other AAA games in 1080p fully maxed out (ultra or very high whatever is max) with AA @ x4 and I am getting at least 30 FPS and around 45-50 FPS on average in all of these basically brand new games. I paid $135 (USD) for the CPU/Motherboard/RAM and I paid $200 for the GPU. If you raise your budget to around $300-350 USD (~20k INR), you can easily find the same or similar parts to what I have and have a pretty good budget gaming rig. Using a 1066 FSB is a pretty big bottleneck on new games. I used to run the Q6600 @ 1066 FSB and could only manage high settings without a lot of stutter. Going to 1333 FSB and 3 GHz CPU clock basically eliminated that bottleneck. Also, with a 1333 FSB, you have the option of using LGA 771 Xeon quad core CPUs which are usually the same as the Core2 Quads but you need to do some modding to them and the CPU socket. For example, the C2Q Q9550 is typically selling for $120-150+ while the basically identical Xeon E5440 can be had for around $50.

Isn't it possible without new motherboard like a quad core will do? OR this have issues?

i7Baby · Jun 22, 2014

LGA775 is dead! So is LGA 1366. Even LGA1155 is old. LGA1150 is current.

Update!

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

i7Baby :

Please suggest all components under my budget.

bccorrupt · Jun 22, 2014

gaggudeep :

If it were me I wouldn't waste money on 775 motherboards, ddr2, or core2quads when you could spend that money on something far better and newer for just a little bit more.

You were already going to buy the new video card right? So buy it, try it out and then go from there.

i7Baby · Jun 22, 2014

gaggudeep :

You won't get anything for 11000Rs ($200). Save up

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

bccorrupt :

gaggudeep :

If it were me I wouldn't waste money on 775 motherboards, ddr2, or core2quads when you could spend that money on something far better and newer for just a little bit more.

You were already going to buy the new video card right? So buy it, try it out and then go from there.

But that rig isn't going to run modern games.

bccorrupt · Jun 22, 2014

Yes, but neither is a core2quad, 4GB of ddr2 ram, and a video card all bought for less than 11000RS either. It takes 7000RS just to get a tolerable 7770 by itself.

cub_fanatic · Jun 22, 2014

i7Baby :

That is exactly why LGA 775 and 1366 are the perfect budget systems. Instead of buying a $1000 PC that you will spend another $500 to upgrade in 5 years, just spend $250-300 on an old PC that can still run everything you need it to run then in 5 years buy that LGA 1150 PC for $250-300 while everyone like you is buying the latest overpriced platform. LGA 775 with a 1333 FSB and PCIe 2.0 is the perfect blend of cheap, powerful and available because nobody wants them since they can't get over the fact that it is a "dead" socket. It is a classic example of supply and demand. These parts are in ample supply and nobody wants them. They aren't going to be competing with i5's and i7's in benchmarking but they are still more than enough for any game out in 1080p. As long as it powers up and runs Titanfall maxed out in 1080p @ 60 FPS it is very much alive to me.

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

cub_fanatic :

i7Baby :

That is exactly why LGA 775 and 1366 are the perfect budget systems. Instead of buying a $1000 PC that you will spend another $500 to upgrade in 5 years, just spend $250-300 on an old PC that can still run everything you need it to run then in 5 years buy that LGA 1150 PC for $250-300 while everyone like you is buying the latest overpriced platform. LGA 775 with a 1333 FSB and PCIe 2.0 is the perfect blend of cheap, powerful and available because nobody wants them since they can't get over the fact that it is a "dead" socket. It is a classic example of supply and demand. These parts are in ample supply and nobody wants them. They aren't going to be competing with i5's and i7's in benchmarking but they are still more than enough for any game out in 1080p. As long as it powers up and runs Titanfall maxed out in 1080p @ 60 FPS it is very much alive to me.

ANd what about a gpu?

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

bccorrupt :

gaggudeep :

If it were me I wouldn't waste money on 775 motherboards, ddr2, or core2quads when you could spend that money on something far better and newer for just a little bit more.

You were already going to buy the new video card right? So buy it, try it out and then go from there.

But i don't have much money mate ( that's why on a tight budget)

cub_fanatic · Jun 22, 2014

bccorrupt :

It will... depending on your video card... assuming you have at least 6 or 8GB of 800 MHz RAM... and not maxed out in any resolution. You will most likely be setting the detail to medium or low in 720p.

bccorrupt · Jun 22, 2014

New 1150 motherboard $50
New Haswell pentium $50
4GB ddr3 1600mhz $45
$145

Q8000 series used core2quad or Xeon $50
used motherboard $??? maybe $50? I'm not sure
4GB ddr2 $45
$145

These groups are equal in performance, but one group has all new parts, lower power usage, a warranty, sata6 and usb3, and is upgradable.

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

bccorrupt :

What about gpu?

bccorrupt · Jun 22, 2014

This seems like a fair price at 7200. The other cards near that performance on flipcart like GTX750, r7 260, and GTX650ti seem to be closer to 9k.

http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-hd-7770-1-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmd7tgzhnsn39yr?pid=GRCD7TGZHNSN39YR&srno=b_25&ref=effeb95b-4a90-47e2-9a4c-684b5443c62b

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

bccorrupt :

Will it be able to run modern games at 30+FPS?

gaggudeep · Jun 22, 2014

OK what about if i sold my old rig. PC specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo @2.4 GHz
Zotac Nvidia Geforce gt 210
Millennium 965 motherboard
Frontech ATX P4 450W PSU

How much will I get for it?

bccorrupt · Jun 22, 2014

At 1440x900 I don't think that would be a problem and at least you would be in a position later on to not need to upgrade the motherboard or ram in order to upgrade the CPU.

bccorrupt · Jun 22, 2014

I take that back, maybe I wasn't giving the pentiums enough credit. Here's BF4 on a new pentium dual core and 7770 running 39FPS average on high at 1080p. Would be 50+ for you at your resolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgCNmJfhcqg

cub_fanatic · Jun 22, 2014

gaggudeep :

Your best bet is probably the GTX 750ti. If you are spending $150 USD on the CPU/Mobo/RAM regardless if you go new dual core or old quad core, you won't have much left for a decent discrete GPU. If you get a newer 1155 or 1150 rig with a Pentium dual core, you will have an internal GPU that can run Battlefield 3 and 4 at a respectable frame rate in 720p and low detail. Then, when you get the money, you can upgrade to something like the 750ti or if you save a few more bucks, a 280x or 7970. Then even later, when you have even more money, you can upgrade to an i5 CPU. The bottom line is, the GPU is the most important part of a modern gaming PC. That is the one part that you don't want to skimp on. Which makes a 1155/1150 Pentium with an iGPU the best temporary solution until you can afford a good GPU. But, if you can find a 1333 Core 2 Quad for dirt cheap like I did ($35 for the CPU, $40 for the mobo - same price as just an 1155/1150 Pentium alone) and you already have dome DDR2 RAM (which is the most expensive part of an LGA 775 system but still cheaper per GB than DDR3) then you really can't go wrong, but you just won't have a good video card until you can afford one. And if you have a SSD and want SATA III, you can always get a PCIe expansion card for $15. Same thing goes for USB 3.0.

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