GTX 780 Lightning vs GTX titan?

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the op is talking about a regular 780 lightning 2304 core vs a 2688 core titan. the lightning is on a much better pcb with a highly bined gk110 2304 core and will overclock much easier than a regular reference titan due to its beefed up power design and superior cooling. the titan has the double precision floating point performance that games don't need though. they are roughly equal after an average overclock on air though, but the lightning will be much quieter and cooler. the 780ti has the full 2880 core gk110, and is naturally just going to be faster.

besides the difference cooling designes, clock for clock 2880>2688>2304 as far as gaming performance. roughly speaking the 780ti@1000mhz = titan@1100mhz = 780@1200mhz, give or...
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Given the cost difference though, the Titan advantage over a boosted 780 is probably not that great. You're better
off getting a 780Ti, unless you really need the Titan's 6GB RAM or its 64bit fp CUDA potential. Titan isn't wholly
aimed at gamers.

The previous poster has a point about resolution; at 4K, Titan's 6GB can be an advantage, but at the same time
a single Titan (or 780Ti for that matter) typically isn't powerful enough to smoothly run a 4K display anyway.

If you're just using HD or 2560x1440, you'd be better off with a 780Ti for sure.

Ian.

PS. And of course, make sure you have a CPU that can feed such a card as these models.

 
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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Lightning/26.html
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Yes, should be fine, doubly so with a sensible overclock (recommend an H80i
with two Nanoxia Deep Silence 120mm PWM, low noise, excellent temps; I
use this to run 2700Ks at 5GHz).

17seconds hits the nail on the head. 8) Just as I thought, decent speed bump
with the oc'd MSI. A 780Ti would be even better though, especially as these
days (a bit like the heyday of the 460 and other models), oc'd versions are
cheaper than reference editions. In the UK, for example, the Gigabyte Windforce
780Ti (1020MHz base, 1085MHz boost) is cheaper than the vast majority of
other models with far lower core clocks.

Btw, a stock 780Ti is quicker than a Titan Black for Battlefield 4, so a card
like the Gigabyte should roar. 8)

There is a price difference of course; in the UK the Windforce 780Ti is about
16% more than the MSI Lightning 780, but I'd still recommend the Windforce
given the choice. Afterall, they're both pretty costly cards anyway, so if you're
going to get something good then why not go the whole nine yards as it were. :)

Ian.

PS. Found this chart on toms:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/2014-vga-charts/17-Battlefield-4-2160p,3609.html

Note the 780Ti listed is an 876MHz reference version, so then consider how the
1020MHz Windforce would behave. 8) The reference 780 and Titan are quite a
bit further down. At 1920x1080 the differences are less pronounced, but the
frame rates are so high it doesn't matter anyway. Personally, if I had a setup
with one or more 780Tis, I'd get a 2560x1440 monitor aswell.



 
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Whether or not to wait is the proverbial conumdrum. :D Some have the patience, others not.
Some can afford it, others not. The 800s are a while away though. If you're going to make
good use of the system before that time, then there's little merit in waiting.

As for the 4670K at stock... well, to be honest, I don't see the point in having a K model if
you're not going to oc it. Even if you just do an oc that does not involve any vcore increase,
it's extra performance for free, and it will definitely help get more out of a high-end GPU.
Personally I would never run a 4670K at stock speeds. And if I were a 4670K, I'd be offended
at the very notion... ;) Be nice to your tech, let it be all it can be, hehe.

Ian.

 
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I will definelty OC the 4670k, to I think about 4 GHZ, problem is I am not a very experienced CPU overclocker and still need to learn how to execute it better, I am just wondering if for the time being it will suffice at stock speeds for a 780?
 
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I expect you'd be fine for the interim. It's quick enough that only in some cases might there be a bottleneck.

The key to oc'ing IMO is doing plenty of background reading. Don't just jump into the BIOS & start changing
things, that's a recipe for disaster. Find some forum guides, learn the BIOS & terminology, find a forum thread
for those with the target CPU/mbd, see what others have done with a similar spec system, etc. There are
some good 'owners club' threads on overclock.net and elsewhere, and Miahallen has written some nice
overclocking guides - eg. even if his SandyBridge guide doesn't refer to your specific CPU (ie. the target
voltage levels & temps will be different for you CPU, so glean more appropriate values from more relevant
discussion threads), the general concepts on how to approach the overclocking process are the same in
each case. Decide on a target speed that's sensible based on your selected components, adopt a methodical
approach; indeed, apart from voltage/temp specifics, Miahallen's SB guide is a good starting point, but it's
well worthwhile reading through some forums too.

Ian.

 
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We have tested many different GPUS all in the same rig.... Results showed much different than I expected by reading all these forums.... The 780s non reference beat the reference 780ti's in many cases! So don't go by other peoples opinions go by the peoples who actually benchmark the rigs!!! www.facebook.com/overclockatlanta.justinchris , that said ive seen a normal 780 ACX out preform a MSI 780ti
 
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the op is talking about a regular 780 lightning 2304 core vs a 2688 core titan. the lightning is on a much better pcb with a highly bined gk110 2304 core and will overclock much easier than a regular reference titan due to its beefed up power design and superior cooling. the titan has the double precision floating point performance that games don't need though. they are roughly equal after an average overclock on air though, but the lightning will be much quieter and cooler. the 780ti has the full 2880 core gk110, and is naturally just going to be faster.

besides the difference cooling designes, clock for clock 2880>2688>2304 as far as gaming performance. roughly speaking the 780ti@1000mhz = titan@1100mhz = 780@1200mhz, give or take a few MHz in between. the ligntning will have no problem getting to 1200mhz and beyond... my classified 780 is at 1.3ghz no problems on its stock acx+ fans.
 
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