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How to stabilize FX-9590 because it keeps freezing my PC completely

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June 22, 2014 3:58:27 PM

So I've had the 9590 in my computer for a few weeks now, and now that I have some actual games on my computer, it can't play any of them except for EVE Online.



My setup is:

Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z motherboard
AMD FX-9590 CPU
NZXT X60 Kraken CPU water cooler (general temps are 35-44 from idle to high load)
NZXT Phantom 820 Ultra (high air flow)
EVGA GTX 780 Ti GPU
G.SKill 16GB 1866 RAM (was previously using 4GB 1333Mhz ram but had the same problem)

Essentially I can load up games most of the time but only after a few moments, my entire computer just locks up and you can't use Ctrl Alt Delete, or anything other than standing up and manually resetting the entire computer. I have done MSI Afterburner and tested my GPU and that is working properly, I've tested my CPU and after around 3 minutes the entire computer locked up. I have used memtest 86+ and tested my memory and found no errors. I've used Prime95 and ran it for 14 hours on my CPU when I got it and it had no problems (that I can think of) but then 90% of the time when I test my CPU on high load it locks everything up.

The only possible thing I can think of is that the FX CPU wasn't designed for Turbo Boost, since the constant voltage and frequency transitions are what is frying it. Is there a way to just turn it off in the BIOS to make it stabilized or perhaps OC it to 5GHZ without turbo boost so it stays consistently at that speed? I'm not huge on overclocking but right now this CPU to me is a little tiny brick that can be chucked out the window.


[This topic is directly copy and pasted from AMD support and game forum, but also putting it on here since I don't trust the 'forever' timeframe on their forums like I do on here]

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June 22, 2014 4:21:44 PM

I'd say you should try a BIOS update. The 9590 is only supported from 1403 and up.
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_V_FORMULAZ/H...

Other than that, you could try turning off the power saving features like Cool n Quiet / C1 / C6 but I doubt they'll make a difference. You could turn off turbo and set the base multiplier so that you reach 5GHz I suppose, though I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that at all.
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June 22, 2014 4:30:37 PM

Hmm I did do a Flash BIOS update around a week and a half ago and my BIOS version is 2101. Also my general drivers are all up to date, including my Kraken software and everything that comes with my MOBO (AI Suite software and software updates).

Also Cool n Quiet is disabled, and haven't enabled it yet but I was thinking of using it as an option, perhaps theoretically if I could tell my CPU to stfu and stay quiet, it would run less and stay at the base clock speeds and maybe only go to 4.8ghz instead of 5. I'm thinking I might only be able to turn off Turbo and manually try and find a way to set it and stabilize it.
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June 22, 2014 6:42:30 PM

What power supply are you using?
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June 22, 2014 6:48:14 PM

I was thinking about this question earlier too but my PSU should be fine, it's a EVGA 1300G2 1300W PSU. I tried to get something prepared enough to support SLI 780Ti's.
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June 22, 2014 7:31:18 PM

internalmemory said:
I was thinking about this question earlier too but my PSU should be fine, it's a EVGA 1300G2 1300W PSU. I tried to get something prepared enough to support SLI 780Ti's.


1300Watt? for 2 780 ti's? Seems like a massacre to me. a 650 Watt can handle duo 780 ti's. lol

On a serious note. Can you tell us the voltages of that PSU?
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June 22, 2014 7:48:43 PM

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=120-G2-130...

According to AI Suite II:

Vcore: 1.224v
+3.3V: 3.288v
+5V: 4.992v
+12V: 12.046v
+VDDA: 2.520v
CPU/NB: 1.177v
DRAM: 1.508v
HT: 1.224v
NB: 1.124v
SB: 1.105v

Temps:
CPU 33.0C
MB 27.0C

This is with not much going, I had Watch Dogs running smoothly awhile ago but the CPU went up to around 51 degrees Celsius. No crashes though, I was able to configure in the BIOS this time after dicking with it for around 40 minutes - I have no overclock running at all, I have all power saver options on, I have Turbo Boost disabled, I have AI Boost turned off (or whatever that first overclocking option is that's right above Turbo Boost in the BIOS. I had problems with the RAM, getting Q-Error 50, so I messed with the RAM by setting it to Auto and 1866Mhz (it's 1866Mhz RAM).

Right now generally my CPU isn't overclocking at all much, it's staying in the 4.7Ghz range of around 4715Mhz, and 4760Mhz, but not going into 4.8Ghz and it's being pretty stable. Before I wasn't even able to go on ubisoft.com and load the Java where the menu's slide at the top medium without the PC crashing.
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June 23, 2014 3:46:29 AM

Honestly I think your vcore is a little low. I'd take it up a notch, but not past 1.4. You could set it manually and force the voltage to stay regular in BIOS if you'd like, too.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-pi...
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June 23, 2014 11:45:56 AM

JOOK-D said:
Honestly I think your vcore is a little low. I'd take it up a notch, but not past 1.4. You could set it manually and force the voltage to stay regular in BIOS if you'd like, too.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-pi...


Hmm thank you, I can look into Vcore voltages, I've been monitoring it alittle this afternoon. So far from what I gathered it likes to be anywhere between 1.224 to 1.488 and very occasionally reaching 1.5v. But the number it's on for vcore voltage over any other number is 1.488v.
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June 23, 2014 2:00:23 PM

internalmemory said:
JOOK-D said:
Honestly I think your vcore is a little low. I'd take it up a notch, but not past 1.4. You could set it manually and force the voltage to stay regular in BIOS if you'd like, too.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-pi...


Hmm thank you, I can look into Vcore voltages, I've been monitoring it alittle this afternoon. So far from what I gathered it likes to be anywhere between 1.224 to 1.488 and very occasionally reaching 1.5v. But the number it's on for vcore voltage over any other number is 1.488v.


Ok, not much you can do there then. Odd.
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July 7, 2014 6:29:30 PM

I have contacted AMD about the CPU and I've came to the conclusion that it's just junk, either the unit is junk - or the AMD 9590 units are junk and you literally have to lock them down from spiking in voltage and mhz or else they'll freeze up.
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July 7, 2014 6:32:53 PM

They are thermal garbage. They are OCed 8320s out of the factory that can hardly be considered stable.
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July 7, 2014 6:51:23 PM

You couldn't of have said it any better.. I wanted the 9xxx versions so I didn't have to OC them myself since I'm just fresh to the PC building world - and I didn't want to risk OC'd something myself just to destroy it or destroy the entire build or ultimately wipe the warranty off everything... So I decided pre-OC'd..... but little did I know that the factory OC was as stable as a toothpick on a fighter jet.
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July 7, 2014 6:55:05 PM

Dont give it that much credit, that toothpick could lodge itself somewhere.
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July 7, 2014 7:06:28 PM

Lol, well I'm meaning that they are as stable as a toothpick gently laying on a jet, hoping that when the jet takes off or in mid-air that the toothpick won't fall off the jet.
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July 16, 2014 8:18:13 PM

Some of these answers crack me up. "I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that at all" so you suggest he flash his bios but shy away from a meager 300mhz overclock?

Or this gem "your vcore seems a little low, increase it but don't go past 1.4" which painfully got the best answer lol. Hate to inform both of you but the VID on that chip is almost 1.5 lol. Mine is 1.476 at stock to be exact.

Anyways, I'm going to venture to guess the current bios may hAve an issue with this chip. I can't get 5.0 stable at all (even hyper PI locks it up) and I've tried up to 1.6v (and I've been overclocking almost 20 years).

On a more positive note, I was able to squeeze 96 more MHz out of my core - 196 more out of my uncore - and 43 more out of my memory on my haswell rig. Go team! Super disappointed in my 9590 rig though :( .
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July 21, 2014 4:28:55 AM

klepp0906 said:
Some of these answers crack me up. "I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that at all" so you suggest he flash his bios but shy away from a meager 300mhz overclock?


Considering that chip is essentially just an overclocked 8320 then no, I absolutely wouldn't feel comfortable doing an extra 300MHz.

klepp0906 said:

Or this gem "your vcore seems a little low, increase it but don't go past 1.4" which painfully got the best answer lol. Hate to inform both of you but the VID on that chip is almost 1.5 lol. Mine is 1.476 at stock to be exact.


I didn't select the best answer. Generally I wouldn't go past 1.4 on that chip - this is my personal opinion. I honestly do not care what yours is at. This is just a higher binned 8320, I wouldn't push the voltage past 1.4.

klepp0906 said:

Anyways, I'm going to venture to guess the current bios may hAve an issue with this chip. I can't get 5.0 stable at all (even hyper PI locks it up) and I've tried up to 1.6v (and I've been overclocking almost 20 years).


Brilliant.

klepp0906 said:

On a more positive note, I was able to squeeze 96 more MHz out of my core - 196 more out of my uncore - and 43 more out of my memory on my haswell rig. Go team! Super disappointed in my 9590 rig though :( .


So it was absolutely unnecessary for you to necro this thread simply to make snide comments about me and tell your little story, which is frankly late and useless. Thanks a bunch, here's your necro return.
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July 21, 2014 4:32:51 AM

JOOK-D said:
klepp0906 said:
Some of these answers crack me up. "I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that at all" so you suggest he flash his bios but shy away from a meager 300mhz overclock?


Considering that chip is essentially just an overclocked 8320 then no, I absolutely wouldn't feel comfortable doing an extra 300MHz.

klepp0906 said:

Or this gem "your vcore seems a little low, increase it but don't go past 1.4" which painfully got the best answer lol. Hate to inform both of you but the VID on that chip is almost 1.5 lol. Mine is 1.476 at stock to be exact.


I didn't select the best answer. Generally I wouldn't go past 1.4 on that chip - this is my personal opinion. I honestly do not care what yours is at. This is just a higher binned 8320, I wouldn't push the voltage past 1.4.

klepp0906 said:

Anyways, I'm going to venture to guess the current bios may hAve an issue with this chip. I can't get 5.0 stable at all (even hyper PI locks it up) and I've tried up to 1.6v (and I've been overclocking almost 20 years).


Brilliant.

klepp0906 said:

On a more positive note, I was able to squeeze 96 more MHz out of my core - 196 more out of my uncore - and 43 more out of my memory on my haswell rig. Go team! Super disappointed in my 9590 rig though :( .


So it was absolutely unnecessary for you to necro this thread simply to make snide comments about me and tell your little story, which is frankly late and useless. Thanks a bunch, here's your necro return.


What's necro? That a web sheep thing iirc right? Kids taking on female traits more and more with each successive generation. Trying to stir up drama.

Relevant answer to a relevant question. I don't care if it was posted a millenia ago. Just to enlighten you cause that's what kind of guy I am...

It's a catchphrase made up for lemminmgs to bandwagon along with in hopes of making forums seem more active than they would be otherwise. (Course anyone with a brain would realize that's not the case) but life's all about perception right?

Anyways, back to my regularly scheduled program.
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July 21, 2014 8:34:11 AM

klepp0906 said:
JOOK-D said:
klepp0906 said:
Some of these answers crack me up. "I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that at all" so you suggest he flash his bios but shy away from a meager 300mhz overclock?


Considering that chip is essentially just an overclocked 8320 then no, I absolutely wouldn't feel comfortable doing an extra 300MHz.

klepp0906 said:

Or this gem "your vcore seems a little low, increase it but don't go past 1.4" which painfully got the best answer lol. Hate to inform both of you but the VID on that chip is almost 1.5 lol. Mine is 1.476 at stock to be exact.


I didn't select the best answer. Generally I wouldn't go past 1.4 on that chip - this is my personal opinion. I honestly do not care what yours is at. This is just a higher binned 8320, I wouldn't push the voltage past 1.4.

klepp0906 said:

Anyways, I'm going to venture to guess the current bios may hAve an issue with this chip. I can't get 5.0 stable at all (even hyper PI locks it up) and I've tried up to 1.6v (and I've been overclocking almost 20 years).


Brilliant.

klepp0906 said:

On a more positive note, I was able to squeeze 96 more MHz out of my core - 196 more out of my uncore - and 43 more out of my memory on my haswell rig. Go team! Super disappointed in my 9590 rig though :( .


So it was absolutely unnecessary for you to necro this thread simply to make snide comments about me and tell your little story, which is frankly late and useless. Thanks a bunch, here's your necro return.


What's necro? That a web sheep thing iirc right? Kids taking on female traits more and more with each successive generation. Trying to stir up drama.

Relevant answer to a relevant question. I don't care if it was posted a millenia ago. Just to enlighten you cause that's what kind of guy I am...

It's a catchphrase made up for lemminmgs to bandwagon along with in hopes of making forums seem more active than they would be otherwise. (Course anyone with a brain would realize that's not the case) but life's all about perception right?

Anyways, back to my regularly scheduled program.


Not a clue where it originated, you can guess and hypothesise as much as you like. It's generally when you hop into a forum and post an answer to a thread that is old, generally OP's leave just a few days after making the thread.

It was somewhat relevant, but didn't really provide anything additionally factual. Seemed more like a self-centred rant for your own amusement more than anything else. But if you believe it to be beneficial then so be it. In any case the thread was marked as solved and any further responses aren't really necessary.
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October 7, 2014 6:09:59 PM

I've been having this same problem for a few weeks now. I'm hoping it is just the heat wave out here in San Diego and since I don't have AC there isn't much else I can do to cool the CPU>

I did everything I could think of to keep this system cool and running but when I fired up the Lockheed-Martin Prepa3d V2.4 Flight Sim I'd get a few minutes into the flight and the system would hang up.

Temperatures were in the 40-58C range from CPU-Z and that should not have been a problem.

So, I tried disabling core 7&8 and have been flying without a problem.

Temps have been in the 30C range and everything is running OK.

Disabling two cores is a drastic and last resort way of doing things but it works on my system...

Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z motherboard (2101 BIOS)
AMD FX-9590 CPU
16G DDR3-2400 RAM (running at 2133)
ATI/AMD Radeon R9 290x
Samsung SSD (1-250G, 3-500G, 1-1T)
Intel SSD ( 1-180G)
1200W Power Supply
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11 minutes ago

Honest opinion from a newbie overclocker: I've been running an 8320 for a few years with zero issues, noticed the price drop on the 9590 recently so decided to get it and a Corsair H110. With a crosshair motherboard's VRM's I thought I was good to go, but..

This processor locks up completely within an hour running anything multicore. I'm seeing interrupt handling errors on the third and fourth proc every time dealing with trivial software interrupts. AMD's technology is simply dated; no change in motherboard chipset for a long term processor socket in 5 years is unacceptable.

The only real solution is to undo AMD's over clocking to stock 8320 values and fiddle with it from there. I've been able to push 4.8 ghz at 5.1 turbo to OS with mine but stability is nonexistent.

TL;DR underclock to 8320 stock
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