Best graphics card for my set up
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gotu308
June 22, 2014 11:53:06 PM
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June 22, 2014 11:55:07 PM
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June 22, 2014 11:56:47 PM
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aasimas
June 22, 2014 11:57:51 PM
gotu308
June 22, 2014 11:59:45 PM
aasimas
June 22, 2014 11:59:59 PM
aasimas
June 23, 2014 12:00:49 AM
aasimas
June 23, 2014 12:02:14 AM
gotu308
June 23, 2014 12:05:00 AM
aasimas
June 23, 2014 12:06:33 AM
aasimas
June 23, 2014 12:07:03 AM
gotu308
June 23, 2014 12:08:09 AM
aasimas
June 23, 2014 12:09:58 AM
If I am reading this right this is a 7 year old computer.
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c...
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DC7800CMT-C2D23...
http://www.amazon.com/HP-dc7800-Convertible-Mini-Tower-...
That means it can NOT support NEWER cards, it doesn't have the 'tech' in it to support the current generations of cards. Computers only have a 3 year Business lifespan or 5 years for consumers, after then the Windows / hardware is incompatible with all current tech and is NO LONGER under warranty or even supported, so something breaks your SOL.
I would NOT waste the time or money on this incompatible legacy hardware that will bottleneck ANY GPU you provide it. I would however suggest that you will need (especially since everyone seems to seen E3 and wants to play the Division, COD:AW, WatchDogs, etc.) that you have to invest HEAVILY on the PC to be able to play properly on them (the way you saw it on youtube)., which is at least $1000 (a Nvidia 760/770 or R9 video card is minimal $349 of that price just for video). If this is too much then ALL the games are console also, which is alot cheaper (PS3 only $149!) and then no worries about compatibility etc.
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c...
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DC7800CMT-C2D23...
http://www.amazon.com/HP-dc7800-Convertible-Mini-Tower-...
That means it can NOT support NEWER cards, it doesn't have the 'tech' in it to support the current generations of cards. Computers only have a 3 year Business lifespan or 5 years for consumers, after then the Windows / hardware is incompatible with all current tech and is NO LONGER under warranty or even supported, so something breaks your SOL.
I would NOT waste the time or money on this incompatible legacy hardware that will bottleneck ANY GPU you provide it. I would however suggest that you will need (especially since everyone seems to seen E3 and wants to play the Division, COD:AW, WatchDogs, etc.) that you have to invest HEAVILY on the PC to be able to play properly on them (the way you saw it on youtube)., which is at least $1000 (a Nvidia 760/770 or R9 video card is minimal $349 of that price just for video). If this is too much then ALL the games are console also, which is alot cheaper (PS3 only $149!) and then no worries about compatibility etc.
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If you guys dont want to listen to i7Baby, go ahead. You really should, he knows what he's talking about.
Yes, a 750Ti may run on a 300W, but do you really think Nvidia would test it on a cheap, bad quality HP power supply?
Power supplies like HP use in their desktops are designed to run the parts that they have installed, and not much else, and also are not meant to be put under stress.
Using a 750Ti with a low quality PSU like this is not a good idea, they are susceptible to breaking/catching on fire sometimes. If you dont believe me, look here:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/26/exploding_compu...
Yes, a 750Ti may run on a 300W, but do you really think Nvidia would test it on a cheap, bad quality HP power supply?
Power supplies like HP use in their desktops are designed to run the parts that they have installed, and not much else, and also are not meant to be put under stress.
Using a 750Ti with a low quality PSU like this is not a good idea, they are susceptible to breaking/catching on fire sometimes. If you dont believe me, look here:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/26/exploding_compu...
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As Brad and i7baby have said, not all PSUs of the same power output rating are equal.
Remember, we aren't getting any kind of payment from anyone by advising you to upgrade the PSU, we do it because we know what we're doing. There is ONE thing you don't go cheap on when building or upgrading a PC. You can go cheap on a CPU, you can go cheap on a GPU, heck you could even use no GPU, but you never go cheap on a power supply, as fires happen.
EDIT: As was said before, the PSU you have is the bare minimum for the system you have. Adding ANY graphics card will probably break the whole computer. You wanted to know what the best GPU for that PSU is? None is my answer.
Also as Tom said, your system will most probably not support the 750ti or heavily bottleneck it to the point where you will get 0% performance boost. You're pretty much stuck with what you have unless you upgrade or switch to consoles.
Or you could ignore us and find out all of what we have just said for yourself, whilst you're also ~$150 out of pocket, with no computer left after the fire. Your call.
Remember, we aren't getting any kind of payment from anyone by advising you to upgrade the PSU, we do it because we know what we're doing. There is ONE thing you don't go cheap on when building or upgrading a PC. You can go cheap on a CPU, you can go cheap on a GPU, heck you could even use no GPU, but you never go cheap on a power supply, as fires happen.
EDIT: As was said before, the PSU you have is the bare minimum for the system you have. Adding ANY graphics card will probably break the whole computer. You wanted to know what the best GPU for that PSU is? None is my answer.
Also as Tom said, your system will most probably not support the 750ti or heavily bottleneck it to the point where you will get 0% performance boost. You're pretty much stuck with what you have unless you upgrade or switch to consoles.
Or you could ignore us and find out all of what we have just said for yourself, whilst you're also ~$150 out of pocket, with no computer left after the fire. Your call.
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gotu308
June 23, 2014 5:17:04 PM
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gotu,
At the end of the day it's your computer, and you are clearly looking for a cheap GPU upgrade that won't necessitate upgrading anything else.
The bad news is, your PC is outdated, and your PSU is a ticking time bomb. The best thing you can do right now is save your money for another year or two, make do with what you have, and build a brand new PC when you can afford it.
At the end of the day it's your computer, and you are clearly looking for a cheap GPU upgrade that won't necessitate upgrading anything else.
The bad news is, your PC is outdated, and your PSU is a ticking time bomb. The best thing you can do right now is save your money for another year or two, make do with what you have, and build a brand new PC when you can afford it.
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gotu308 said:
right now i have in my computer is a intel core 2 duo cpu at 2.33GHz 4gb ram (upgradeable to 8gb) nvidia geforce GT610 512mb...im looking to get the most out of this computer to be able to stream games a little better then 12-20 FPS! any help would be great on upgrades for hardware!1) Computer isn't able to play games, much less "stream", and the card is too low end old to support anything.
2) Your requirements (with streaming) is WAY beyond your budget unless you go Console and use those tools to 'stream games' (yes they have them on Twitch,TV off consoles).
3) Any streamer will tell you the same thing, whatever your FPS when playing CUT IN HALF when streaming. So if you want 50FPS while streaming you need a rig capable of pushing 100FPS or better. That means a rig at least $1000, at least a i5 Haswell, best if it was a i7 (video editing is what the i7 does best) with at least a Nvidia 760/770.
4) there is no $100 solution for PCs.. you just need to face reality.
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gotu308
June 23, 2014 7:16:22 PM
aasimas
June 23, 2014 8:46:06 PM
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Aasimas, we already went over how the PSU is bad. Even with an old card, it may have problems.....
Gotu308, Im not sure if these parts would fit in your PC, you would need to measure first and check.
They would be a substantial upgrade, and would be guaranteed to give you better performance, and would allow streaming.
You will have to run games on medium-high while streaming though.
Sorry that its a bit over $500.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $523.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
A cheaper option would be this, but it would not be as good at streaming without lagging:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($62.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $493.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Gotu308, Im not sure if these parts would fit in your PC, you would need to measure first and check.
They would be a substantial upgrade, and would be guaranteed to give you better performance, and would allow streaming.
You will have to run games on medium-high while streaming though.
Sorry that its a bit over $500.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $523.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
A cheaper option would be this, but it would not be as good at streaming without lagging:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($62.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $493.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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aasimas
June 23, 2014 9:43:03 PM
your forgetting this is a HP, which means OEM Windows, which as soon as you replace a component (CPU/Mobo) Windows no longer will work. You will need to include a brand new copy of Windows in the build and OP will have to build it from scratch (wipe drive, install Windows, etc.) after using Windows Easy Transfer to backup OPs data to a ext drive (another cost).
Lastly as the OP is doing this all on his/her own : Warning you screw up something your on your own. So if your cat rubs you as you put in the RAM, boom that stuff may now be fried and they won't give you a free replacement, you will have to buy it outright all over again.
Lastly as the OP is doing this all on his/her own : Warning you screw up something your on your own. So if your cat rubs you as you put in the RAM, boom that stuff may now be fried and they won't give you a free replacement, you will have to buy it outright all over again.
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