Help me decide set of gaming PC (AMD/Intel)

posopos

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Hai everyone!
I have a budget around $1000 - $1300 and I'm very confuse about what processor should I choose, AMD or Intel to make it.

What I want is that a PC Gaming that can play most of current game and can last for 4-5 years later (I know it's troublesome cuz of technology development is super fast)

Here's my 1st choice after searching and comparing :
procie I5-4690
VGA R9-280x
WD Caviar Blue 1TB
Corsair Venge Black 2x4Gb
Mobo GA-H87-HD3
PSU Seasonic SS-600ET
UPS ICA 600Va
Casing Dazumba DVito 902
DVDRW LG

So I have this questions :

1. What do you guys think about this rig?

2. To be honest, I want to upgrade i5 into i7 4790 but it's over budget (and is it too over for gaming PC?)

3. What about AMD Processor build? Have any suggest/comparing?

4. There's an issue about RAM DDR4 will be coming out soon next year, It will make this mobo uncompatible with DDR4, do you guys have any suggest? I'm afraid this rig only last for 2-3 years..

Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate any answer!
 
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1.) The i5 4690 should be good for many years to come. It is after all, a top of the line Haswell-E i5 CPU. The R9 280X isn't a bad GPU by any means, but it's not going last as long as your CPU will in terms of gaming. You'll be able to play games for the next 4-5 years with it like you've asked, but as games progress and get more demanding, quality will suffer.

2.) Not sure what you mean. The 280X is better than fine, it'll do good...

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1. From what I have read the new Devils canyon CPU's will not be compatible with an 8 series chipset, only 9 series chipsets. I would get the unlocked version and a motherboard that allows for overclocking but that is me. It would allow for a little more juice in the future. Some games are CPU constrained and this will help in the future.
2. I only have a 4670k @ 4.4ghz and it runs everything fine. I have looked at many comparisons on FPS and CPU and a better CPU does not make a very big difference for the time being.
3. Intel has got a corner on the market for the time being so I kind of take that as a sign to stick with them. Will probably help later on when it comes time to upgrade.
4. I am waiting to upgrade any more until the new DDR4 comes out for my setup. From what I understand the new X99 Motherboards are going to be a little more expensive and the CPU's as well for some (cheapest being equivalent to the 4770k's price) And DDR4 is supposedly going to be expensive when it first comes out. It is going to be the waiting game if you want to wait for that and then there will always be a better upgrade coming so its all a question of if you can wait or not.
 

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No. Just, no. There's hardly a PC built now that can handle games two to three years from now at Ultra. Much less one with an R9 280X.

@OP :

1.) It's a decent build for today's games. The CPU is more than powerful enough to handle things down the road for quite some time, the GPU however will not be so lucky. Everything else looks fine to me. You have a quality PSU (Important!), and your motherboard is fitting for the build (No SLI support, but it does have XFire). Average overall, it should game just fine for the foreseeable future.

2.) An i7 4790 is not necessary as a 4690 has 99% of the gaming potential a 4790 possesses. The only difference between the 4690 and the 4790 is Hyperthreading which nets you no cost worthy power with respect to gaming. If you're worried about having an i7 and if it's that important to you, take a look at either a Xeon E3-1230 V3, or a Xeon E3-1231 V3 (I believe). The Xeon E3-1231 V3 is essentially the 4790 down clocked by a few hundred MHz. The same goes for the Xeon E3-1230 V3 which is a 4770 down clocked by a few hundred MHz. They both contain Hyperthreading, and will perform almost identically to the i7's.

3.) I personally would suggest an Intel build as it will probably last you longer than an AMD build would. The AM3+ platform is dead so there really is no upgrading CPUs down the line unless you want to swap the whole platform with it. If, and only if, the budget is a big issue then and only then would I really suggest an AMD build.

4.) DDR3 isn't that bad. Yes, the Z97 does not support DDR4, but it's also probably not worth the trouble upgrading just to get DDR4 anyway. I don't really see it bringing anything to the table other than marginal performance increases. Your CPU/GPU will still be the most powerful factor.

All that said: I believe you can use an H87 board with a Devil's Canyon Haswell CPU, but I highly recommend that you get an H/Z 97 chipset motherboard instead. H/Z/X 87 chipset is dead.
 

posopos

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thanks to all of you :)
well regarding of what you say,
1. do you mean i5-4690 will be 'safe' for couple of years, but the r9-280x is not?
2. Do you have any suggest on what VGA Card should I choose and which brand is the best in the field?
3. and also what does 'h/z/x 87 chipset is dead' mean?
 

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1.) The i5 4690 should be good for many years to come. It is after all, a top of the line Haswell-E i5 CPU. The R9 280X isn't a bad GPU by any means, but it's not going last as long as your CPU will in terms of gaming. You'll be able to play games for the next 4-5 years with it like you've asked, but as games progress and get more demanding, quality will suffer.

2.) Not sure what you mean. The 280X is better than fine, it'll do good.

3.) H/Z 87 is a chipset which is built into a motherboard for Intel CPUs. The "87" series specifically is built for first generation Haswell CPUs, not Haswell-E like the CPU you have picked out (i5 4690 is Haswell-E). "97" series motherboards is what you'll want as it'll better support your i5 4690.

The motherboard you currently have picked out in your original post is an H87 chipset board, which generally won't fully support a Haswell-E CPU (not without a BIOS update that is).
 
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