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If gaming is the main attraction, get the i3. The FX-6300 is more flexible but the FX-series is pretty much end-of-line. There is a much better upgrade path for the i3 such as to the i5 and i7 and the upcoming Broadwell CPUs.
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If gaming is the main attraction, get the i3. The FX-6300 is more flexible but the FX-series is pretty much end-of-line. There is a much better upgrade path for the i3 such as to the i5 and i7 and the upcoming Broadwell CPUs.
 
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Intel changes sockets with every new CPU they make, so there`s no upgrade line to the I3 either.
 
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id do a bit more research on that but i do think there will be lower voltages with broadwell that will break compatibiity -
Unless of course there are some new boards coming along with haswell refresh that can adress this already (unlikely)
 
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Yes; but there are upgrades to i5 and i7 on LGA 1150. And there will be Broadwell CPUs for the LGA 1150 socket.



More so than FX. What longevity will that socket have? And see my reply to @ohim above.
 
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I recommend the i3 if the ability to upgrade is important to you. Otherwise, the FX. I don't think you can upgrade any further into the FX route, you would just switch to Intel, probably.

The FX-6300 for example has better multi-tasking ability than the i3. i3 if you're going the gaming route.
 
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The same goes for AMD CPUs... Why buy AMD when you'd have to upgrade to Intel in the first place? 6300s are showing their age and are no longer cutting it in newer games. If he can afford to get a 8320/8350, he could just as easily get an i5.

Hell, the new Pentium G3258 is doing a whole lot better than the 6300.
 
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what are they not cutting? they are just starting to CUT it in new games that are finally optimized for all the 6 cores.
my FX-6350 with 8 gigs of ram is flawless @ 4.7 ghz,
i had a GTX770 for a while and it was a great gaming machine... very few cases where i got some cpu bottleneck (still above 50fps in those situations while mostly hitting my monitors 75hz/fps limit) - only exception is gta4 which when maxed out can drop down to 30 fps in some situations but if you read forums same thing happens with 4770k's )

tell me - can you overclock an i3?
 
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the videocard will bottleneck either processor, also yes - you need 8gb ram... i had 4 installed and Battlefield 4 stuttered noticeably - once i installed 8gb the stutters disappeared completely. newer games will require it... altho games that don't have a 64bit engine available can't really take advantage of more than 4 gigs... but its always good to have more for multitasking and general performance boost
 
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Induldge me, which games are you playing? Because all I've heard on this forum as of late is the 6300 bottlenecking the crap out of higher end GPUs. And which games are using those 6 cores? I'd love to know.

Even if you overclock, it isn't a big of a thing as you make it out to be. Is that why an 8320 needs to be OC'd to 4-5 GHz to compete with a STOCK i5-3570k/4670k?

Regardless, a Pentium G3258 can be bought and overlocked, and still get about the performance of a 6300, if not more.
 
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H97 and Z97 boards will be broadwell compatible. Broadwell support is nice to have, but not necessary. An i3 4150 with an ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 would give you support for all Haswell and Haswell refresh CPU's. Save up a bit and swap the 4150 for a 1231v3 and have i7 4770 performance for less. :D That board also has multicore enhancement, so all cores can run at max turbo speed as well. :D
 
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dont fall in the fanboy trap - ive done my research and i know an intel cpu will not give you much of a performance boost, your fps will be like 10% higher with an i5....
an i3? -just older games mostly,
remember we are jsut starting to get games that were made for new consoles which have pc-like architecture and 2ghz amd 8 core cpu's... - do you intel fanboys honestly think AMD FX cpu's wont be able to handle them? FFS.
just look at how good battlefield 3 and 4 runs on amd cpu's - why? it uses all the cores... i haven't played BF4 multi but i finished single player campaign and it was dead smooth all the way through. i own BF3 and it's multiplayer is also completely smooth with this cpu... i guess we'll have to see how gta5 performs on PC when it comes out for the intel bunch to finally shutup.

-also i am not an AMD fanboy ... i am considering trading in my FX and getting a haswell refresh or wait for broadwell just for the fact you can build a portable small form factor pc with it.... which is not possible with an AMD 9 series chipset - only ATX sized motherboards.
 
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For now I'm playing LoL and CS:GO, but would like that other games would work on high settings (coh2, new FPS's, and all the newer games).

btw graphics card will deffently not bottleneck these CPU's
 
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Current gen i3's are more capable than you are giving them credit for. I am tempted to sell my FX 8320's and replace them with an i3 4360 combo at microcenter. For WoW, they will be far superior, as blizzard hates AMD. My i5 2400 plays better than my FX 8320's @ 4.0ghz, with the same GPU.... If I get to build my Mini-ITX Xeon build, that I want, I will only get rid of one, as my 3570k will go to a different rig.
 
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260x is a reworked HD7790 - it will absolutely bottleneck these cpu's on max settings ... even without AA unless you run a smaller than 1080p resolution

i've played Metro LastLight, Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Crysis 3, Bioshock, BF3&4,
Sleeping Dogs, WatchDogs ... no problem on any of these...
Crysis 3 is quite a system killer tho... my GTX770 wasn't enough to get a real smooth experience on max settings
 
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Games that prefer strong single core performance would like a word with you. Intel CPUs run circles around AMD CPUs. BF4 singleplayer? hardly something to base your opinions off of. Especially since the most CPU heavy part of BF4 is the multiplayer. And Mantle does a great job with helping weaker CPUs in that game.

These so called games that utilize 6+ cores are unicorns. Upcoming games that are optimized for consoles? We play on PCs, not consoles. And last time I checked, bad console ports are still bad console ports and will run poorly on the PC, regardless of CPU. Watch Dogs? Does that ring a bell? Was supposedly the first "truly next gen" title, but had to be dumbed down on PC so that it wouldn't shame consoles. AMD users had more issues with it than Intel users.

Call me a fanboy or not, I don't care. I make it known I strongly prefer Intel. I do this because they offer everything I want. They offer the most performance, and the better efficiency/cooling. Price doesn't really matter to me. $150 for a 8320? I'd gladly pay the ~$200-250 for my i5-4670k/4690k, and soforth.

Edit: So you primarily play single player games where the whole CPU debate is moot. Cool story. Good to know your background.
 
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AMD & Intel will always start this interesting fight. The gist is Intel i3 can play the majority of the games better than an FX chip. It won't play ALL games better because a few select games like Battlefield, Crysis, Watch Dogs, etc. can support more than two cores. But the games that support more than two cores are very few.

The i3 does have a better upgrade path to the i5 and i7 without changing your motherboard (and result in you reinstalling your operating system). The FX is pretty much end-of-line so you won't be able to upgrade it much along that path. If you do switch to Intel later, you will have to buy a new motherboard along with the CPU and you will have to reinstall your operating system. The reason you have to reinstall your operating system is because the motherboard drivers for the old motherboard is incompatible with the new motherboard.
 
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