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June 25, 2014 1:40:17 AM

*EDIT* - If for some reason you don't want to read all the information I've provided then please just post and ask a question that you think might help. I'll answer any question that I can. The only reason I post ALL the information I have is because I know how forums are. You usually spend the first 2-3 days of just going back and forth with Q&A. This way you have all the information you need along with all the "homework" that I've already done. Thank you.

Back story here - tomshardware.com - picking out video card

Basic gist of back story =

  • got new video card
  • card didn't work
  • found out PCI-E slot was really PCI-E Lite (which means it's x8 and not enough power for card)
  • Bought new board instead of paying to ship back GPU and restocking fee


  • *New info* =

    • Was going to buy another stick of 2gb DDR2 ram to go with stick I already had
    • Price for new DDR3 stick of 4gb was almost the same as DDR2 so I went with that instead
    • Called ASRock and told them the ram I was interested in. G.Skill 1066 Ram They told me the safe bet would follow the QVL (when I pointed out to them the QVL was outdated they agreed and said it's almost impossible to keep updated) They said that "We have very good success with G.Skill ram so that should work.
    • Ordered Ram, computer doesn't boot (Full fan speed, cd rom spins up, hdds spin up but black screen.) I've tried onboard graphics and graphics card.
    • I've tried both DDR3 slots and have also tried the FSB jumper in both positions.
    • Board boots up with DDR2 ram but not DDR3 ram. I even tried HyperX Ram just for the heck of it because it's the only other DDR3 ram I have available. Still nothing.

    • My MB is: G41C-GS
    • My CPU is: E6700 2.66Ghz 1066FSB



  • Found some reviews of people getting this ram to work with this board. G.Skill Ram Review Only difference I can see in this particular example is that he has two sticks of 4gb ram where as I have the one stick and he has a Q6600 CPU where as I have the E6700. If you read through the Q&A on G41C-GS people ask about the Ram and there are multiple instances where people say they're using the 1066 G.Skill RAM without any problems. However, again, they are using the 2x4gb setup whereas I only have 1x4gb and they are using different CPUs than I am.

    I found more reviews (these are in more abundance) of people getting the 1333 G.Skill Ram to work with this board. G.Skill 1333

    Sooo........hopefully I haven't scared anyone away with my WALL of text. I'm GUESSING that it comes down to.........WTF is going on with my setup?!? lol Is it because I'm only using 1x4gb instead of the 2x4gb? Or is it my CPU? I see all kinds of people saying that compatibility depends on your CPU as well. Would there be a reason my E6700 isn't compatible with DDR3 1066 Ram? The FSB on the CPU is 1066. Or is there more to it than that?

    I hope people can help as I'm about to bash my head in with a hammer. This was SUPPOSE to be a VERY simple upgrade (As little money spent as possible. Was suppose to just be new CPU/GPU) as it was going to just be an "intro" computer for my 6 year old son. Now it feels like it's spiraling out of control......Thank you in advance for any help.

    *Edit* Was reading through the Q&A some more on the G41C-GS board and I saw one guy saying he's running a Q6700 CPU. When doing a side by side comparison, pretty much the only difference I could see was Q6700=quad core and E6700=dual core. There were a few minor differences but not anything I could see that should stop the E6700 from being compatible with the RAM.
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    June 25, 2014 3:32:00 AM

    tea urchin said:
    Nodded off halfway down.
    Generally; pci-E X8 is good enough. More than, for a conroe core E6700 @ 266 X10. Your cpu etc is now UTTERLY OUT OF DATE AND WILL NO LONGER RUN simple games like star trek on line.
    All those 'crashes' you put down to 'iffy' games? Fallout new vegas?
    System fail. Just done it Pal. Get shot.


    Wrong thread man? lol It's early in the morning. I get it. :D 

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    June 25, 2014 8:12:08 AM

    Elrynon said:
    tea urchin said:
    Nodded off halfway down.
    Generally; pci-E X8 is good enough. More than, for a conroe core E6700 @ 266 X10. Your cpu etc is now UTTERLY OUT OF DATE AND WILL NO LONGER RUN simple games like star trek on line.
    All those 'crashes' you put down to 'iffy' games? Fallout new vegas?
    System fail. Just done it Pal. Get shot.


    Wrong thread man? lol It's early in the morning. I get it. :D 



    He was replying to your thread... basically he was saying that (the facts you gave in the back story) are in dispute, and PCI-E X8 should have been good enough for that card. You assumed that the reason the setup wasn't working was that it was the PCI lane - he's saying that your CPU wasn't powerful enough to run that GPU card, and the PCI lane is fine. So basically, you went down the wrong troubleshooting road...
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    June 25, 2014 1:12:35 PM

    Well, you guys are wrong. It WAS the PCI slot. The PCI-E Lite slot only provides 25w of power where the card I was trying to use needs 30 or 35 W of power. Can't remember off the top of my head. With the new board I put in (using the GPU/CPU you guys are saying won't work together) the computer boots up and runs just fine if I use the DDR2 ram. So it's not the CPU/GPU combo. Not only that but I never anywhere said anything about "crashes" due to "iffy" games? Let alone Fall Out New Vegas? So.......again, just sure what you guys are replying to but it's not my stuff. So no, there was nothing wrong with the troubleshooting road I went down.
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    June 25, 2014 10:57:45 PM

    Reading back over my post I apologize if I came across as too assy. I've just been dealing with a lot of stupid people lately (online and in real life) and unfortunately I took it out on you guys. I'm still curious though where you got that I was blaming "crashes" on "iffy" games? I never had a crash/game problem? Or is that what you meant by "pre-empting"?

    A system upgrade is not an option. I've already dropped far more money into this than I wanted. Hindsight being 20/20 if I would have known I was going to drop this much I would have put it towards a whole brand new system. It's just been a huge snowball. This is just a beginner/intro computer for my 6 year old. Minecraft/online flash games/unity player based games/what not. I'm just trying to figure out why the combo I have now isn't working. I have found pages where people use my cpu with DDR3 ram (even up to 1600mhz) but with a different board, and I have found pages where people can get the G.Skill Ram I have to work with the board I have but different processors. There HAS to be something I'm missing somewhere. Like with the whole x8 power issue. I guess I'll try the G.Skill and Intel forums as well.
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    July 2, 2014 3:13:09 AM

    Just to prove that the E6700 2.66Ghz cpu DOES work with DDR3 ram here's a video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtEWJlGK7Pk

    So basically I've found threads/reviews/etc that the E6700 2.66 works just fine with DDR3 but different boards and that the G41C-GS works with the G.skill Ripjaws 1066 ram that I got but different CPU's. So obviously something just isn't lining up. Why would my cpu work with DDR3 on different boards and my board work with DDR3 (even when not on the QVL list) but for some reason all three not play together?
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