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June 26, 2014 3:39:40 AM

I have finally trashed my AMD Sempron +3000 and replaced it for AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000

So now here is parts that i going to replace in my old computer:
CPU: AMD Semprom +3000 with AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000
RAM: 1GB DDR2 with 4GB DDR2
Motherboard: GA-M61VME-S2 (rev. 2.0) <-- Not going to replace that. Just to let you guys know what mobo i have
HDD: 160GB to 500GB PS: Can SATA II HDD work with SATA I Motherboard?

First question i want to ask is Do i need to flash my bios and how to do it without breaking my mobo (I heard you can mess up your mobo) So do i have to flash bios in order to make all this work or not I have F4 BIOS from 2006

Second question (And most important)
What's the best GPU that is not going to be bottlenecked by AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000 3,1 GHZ
And how are newer games going to work with it

PS: This is my other computer in my other house That's the reason why i upgrade it

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June 26, 2014 3:46:11 AM

You will probably have to update your BIOS and it shouldn't mess anything up. Download the correct software from gigabyte website.

GPU - get maybe a HD7750
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June 26, 2014 3:52:40 AM

LucoTF said:
You will probably have to update your BIOS and it shouldn't mess anything up. Download the correct software from gigabyte website.

GPU - get maybe a HD7750


Thank you for fast replay But when i go to Q-Flash i only says Flash from Floppy Yes my computer has a floppy drive but i don't have a floppy. I heard there's some DOS Flashers that can be used from USB Is that right? And is that safe?
As for GPU Can i play BF4 AC4 and AC3 Hitman and others on LOW or mid wth resolution 800x600 with that GPU and CPU? and ram
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June 26, 2014 4:02:56 AM

infernogamer said:
LucoTF said:
You will probably have to update your BIOS and it shouldn't mess anything up. Download the correct software from gigabyte website.

GPU - get maybe a HD7750


Thank you for fast replay But when i go to Q-Flash i only says Flash from Floppy Yes my computer has a floppy drive but i don't have a floppy. I heard there's some DOS Flashers that can be used from USB Is that right? And is that safe?
As for GPU Can i play BF4 AC4 and AC3 Hitman and others on LOW or mid wth resolution 800x600 with that GPU and CPU? and ram


Yes, just copy the files to USB and Q-flash should work with USB (as long as the USB is in FAT32 format)

If your power supply is good enough you could put in a more powerful card than the HD7750, say a 7770, but after that you will start to be very limited by the CPU.
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June 26, 2014 4:08:33 AM

LucoTF said:
infernogamer said:
LucoTF said:
You will probably have to update your BIOS and it shouldn't mess anything up. Download the correct software from gigabyte website.

GPU - get maybe a HD7750


Thank you for fast replay But when i go to Q-Flash i only says Flash from Floppy Yes my computer has a floppy drive but i don't have a floppy. I heard there's some DOS Flashers that can be used from USB Is that right? And is that safe?
As for GPU Can i play BF4 AC4 and AC3 Hitman and others on LOW or mid wth resolution 800x600 with that GPU and CPU? and ram


Yes, just copy the files to USB and Q-flash should work with USB (as long as the USB is in FAT32 format)

If your power supply is good enough you could put in a more powerful card than the HD7750, say a 7770, but after that you will start to be very limited by the CPU.


Nah. As long i can play newes games on low or mid in 800x600 without serve lag I going to buy that card but can that card But can i play newest games on it with mid or low 800x600
PS: What's TDP of 7750
PS 2: Well let's say my PSU is 400W i can't see how much watts it have
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June 26, 2014 4:23:46 AM

The 7750 TDP is 55w I think - it gets all needed power from the 75w pcie slot.

The 7770 is about 80w TDP and will also work with most power supplies but it will need a 6 pin power connection (or a 4-pin molex to 6-pin adapter). It is a bit better than the HD7750 though

The Athlon 64 x2 6000 will not play 100% of the newest games smooth no matter what GPU you put in the PC. Games like watch dogs, the new wolfenstein game, battlefield multiplayer etc will be very hard on your CPU, even at 800x600. but it should still be able to play MOST games ok based on your settings :) 

Oh and your other question - yes, the new HDD should work just fine.
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June 26, 2014 4:29:53 AM

LucoTF said:
The 7750 TDP is 55w I think - it gets all needed power from the 75w pcie slot.

The 7770 is about 80w TDP and will also work with most power supplies but it will need a 6 pin power connection (or a 4-pin molex to 6-pin adapter). It is a bit better than the HD7750 though

The Athlon 64 x2 6000 will not play 100% of the newest games smooth no matter what GPU you put in the PC. Games like watch dogs, the new wolfenstein game, battlefield multiplayer etc will be very hard on your CPU, even at 800x600. but it should still be able to play MOST games ok based on your settings :) 

Oh and your other question - yes, the new HDD should work just fine.


BIOS Upgrade successful. Computer working stable All works great, RAM working great HDD working great CPU working great *high five* Waiting for the GPU. BTW I dont play watch dogs I play Battlefield single player (For multiplayer i got my CS 1.6) But will AC4 and AC3 work and Battlefield 4 and PES 2013 Oh yes and GTA IV (Still waiting for GTA V :(  )

Cheers.

PS: Best answer for you just answer this one

PS 2 : i already had all except the GPU ;) 
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June 26, 2014 4:39:51 AM

infernogamer said:
LucoTF said:
The 7750 TDP is 55w I think - it gets all needed power from the 75w pcie slot.

The 7770 is about 80w TDP and will also work with most power supplies but it will need a 6 pin power connection (or a 4-pin molex to 6-pin adapter). It is a bit better than the HD7750 though

The Athlon 64 x2 6000 will not play 100% of the newest games smooth no matter what GPU you put in the PC. Games like watch dogs, the new wolfenstein game, battlefield multiplayer etc will be very hard on your CPU, even at 800x600. but it should still be able to play MOST games ok based on your settings :) 

Oh and your other question - yes, the new HDD should work just fine.


BIOS Upgrade successful. Computer working stable All works great, RAM working great HDD working great CPU working great *high five* Waiting for the GPU. BTW I dont play watch dogs I play Battlefield single player (For multiplayer i got my CS 1.6) But will AC4 and AC3 work and Battlefield 4 and PES 2013 Oh yes and GTA IV (Still waiting for GTA V :(  )

Cheers.

PS: Best answer for you just answer this one

PS 2 : i already had all except the GPU ;) 


High five!

AC4 worries me, that is a demanding game. Also GTAIV is quite poorly coded. You might get 30fps at 800x600 on low/med settings, but I honestly don't know :) 

The others should be fine
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June 26, 2014 4:44:01 AM

Here you go A nice best solution Again waiting for GPU delivery Have a nice rest of the day :) 
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June 26, 2014 4:50:21 AM

infernogamer said:
Here you go A nice best solution Again waiting for GPU delivery Have a nice rest of the day :) 


You too :) 
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June 27, 2014 4:35:34 AM

Cores 2
Threads 2
Name AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+
Code Name Windsor
Package Socket AM2 (940)
Technology 90nm
Specification AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
Family F


Motherboard

Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Model CROSSHAIR (Socket AM2 )
Chipset Vendor NVIDIA
Chipset Model SPP190 (C51XE)
Chipset Revision A2
Southbridge Vendor NVIDIA
Southbridge Model nForce 570 SLI
Southbridge Revision A2
System Temperature 40 °C

Hmmm 2 questions. Would it make a diff having a 2gig 7750 or 7770 rather than the 1 gig ?

Can I upgrade my cpu with that mobo?

I got extreme coolermaster 550w 7gig of ram.
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June 27, 2014 4:48:31 AM

Othrys said:
Hmmm 2 questions. Would it make a diff having a 2gig 7750 or 7770 rather than the 1 gig ?

Can I upgrade my cpu with that mobo?

I got extreme coolermaster 550w 7gig of ram.


2gb vs 1gb - far more important is getting a ddr5 card not ddr3, 2gb vs 1gb almost doesn't matter with these cards.

Upgrade CPU - Apparently yes: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR/specificatio...

Coolermaster 550w - what model? Some of these are ok
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June 27, 2014 5:20:46 AM

AMD FM2 / FM2+ is that compatible category whilst looking at the msy.com.au

AMD A4-4000 / A4-4020 /A4-6300 /A4-6320 / A6-5400K some under that catergory. Not sure what it all means though but I understand the whole AM3 wouldn't be compatible :) 

hmmm not sure what brand the coolermaster elite 550+ is. Threw the box away, It's not a real expensive part of the puter and don't cringe too much when I say I have a shaw case :) 
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June 27, 2014 5:24:35 AM

Othrys said:
AMD FM2 / FM2+ is that compatible category whilst looking at the msy.com.au

AMD A4-4000 / A4-4020 /A4-6300 /A4-6320 / A6-5400K some under that catergory. Not sure what it all means though but I understand the whole AM3 wouldn't be compatible :) 

hmmm not sure what brand the coolermaster elite 550+ is. Threw the box away, It's not a real expensive part of the puter and don't cringe too much when I say I have a shaw case :) 


You have an AM2 motherboard not FM2...
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June 27, 2014 5:30:50 AM

What would you recommend what cpu could I get in the AM2 which would be upgraded? That could run a decent gtx card?
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June 27, 2014 5:34:38 AM

My power supply says 25A and +3.3v and +5v in the next column if that means anything to u?
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June 27, 2014 5:48:54 AM

Othrys said:
My power supply says 25A and +3.3v and +5v in the next column if that means anything to u?


Not really. I would need the +12v rating and / or the product number sorry

Motherboard - look between the PCI slots on your motherboard,it should say CROSSHAIR in big letters with a rev. number next to that?
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June 27, 2014 5:56:31 AM

-12v .... Looked inbetween PCI slots couldn't see crosshair written on it.
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June 27, 2014 7:46:19 AM

the 2nd one ... 100%
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June 27, 2014 8:02:54 AM

AMD Phenom X4 9950 2.6 GHz Quad-Core CPU Processor FD4100WMW4KGU Socket AM2+


Would be the best i could upgrade to yeah? btw thanks for your help.
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June 27, 2014 8:17:48 AM

So when i do get that cpu... will the MSI R9 270X Gaming 2 GB bottleneck or should be fine?

Trying to find threads related to those quad cores and graphics cards but failing. but i have seen ebay sell those cpu's reasonably priced tho used which is a bit of a worry but normal for an old cpu I'm sure.
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June 27, 2014 8:49:28 AM

Othrys said:
So when i do get that cpu... will the MSI R9 270X Gaming 2 GB bottleneck or should be fine?

Trying to find threads related to those quad cores and graphics cards but failing. but i have seen ebay sell those cpu's reasonably priced tho used which is a bit of a worry but normal for an old cpu I'm sure.


Yes it will bottleneck. How much, depends on the game - but I wouldn't put anything bigger than, say, a gtx 750ti / HD7850 in there with the x4 9550. Even that might be pushing it
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June 27, 2014 3:42:44 PM

Alright thanks... I'll get that cpu and graphics card unless you think something would be better.

No suprises I hope.
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June 27, 2014 4:21:57 PM

One last thing... would the 7850 be better due to the fact I have a amd processor? Or doesn't matter this day and age.
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June 27, 2014 5:18:40 PM

2G R7-265 .. what if I got one of these ? These are rated better than the 750 gtx ti not by much.. but at my level every lil edge is enough, so I can avoid upgrading fully... SO I can start saving my a real upgrade. But atm I'm married and doing things tight for now hah :) 

It's within $20 of each other.
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June 28, 2014 1:14:04 AM

Othrys said:
2G R7-265 .. what if I got one of these ? These are rated better than the 750 gtx ti not by much.. but at my level every lil edge is enough, so I can avoid upgrading fully... SO I can start saving my a real upgrade. But atm I'm married and doing things tight for now hah :) 

It's within $20 of each other.


If you plan to upgrade the CPU later, then just get the very best GPU you can afford and don't even worry about bottleneck :) 

And AMD or nvidia doesn't really matter
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June 28, 2014 1:38:20 AM

Alright thanks. well for now i'll grab either the r7-265(saw something on youtube vs the other card slightly better) or 750ti (this is my gut feeling tho)

I need to keep away from these forums because all I do is start researching/checking prices and already worked out what AM3 mobo I'm getting with a 8xcpu ... 760 gtx

But I'm sure the quad+mid range card will see me through for 2 yrs or at until I start buying the new build :)  anyways thanks for your time and this place is addictive.
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June 28, 2014 4:46:36 AM

So my quick fix is the 750 gtx ti. which i'll have enough play money to buy 1 for my pc.

I can save 40 play money aside without wife being upset :) 

hmmm amd 3 AsRock 980DE3-U3S3 with a 8350 fx.... and then if I don't buy the 750 ti and hold off til I can get the 760 2g... so cpu+mobo works out to be round $280... and then instead of 180 on a graphics I spend 260-300 for the 760... hmmm I cant see a 8350 fx bottlenecking.

Is it possible to just hook up my current harddrives with windows etc and expect it to run the OS? Means I could pretty much run everything at ultra at the cost of 500 basically which isn't much at all.. since I already have a decent 2ms monitor, gaming headset and z5500 speakers.

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