OC'ing AMD FX-9590

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Hi,
My PC specs:
16 gigs RAM
990xFXA-UD3 Mobo
CrossFireX r9 290x's, although I took one out since I need a better PSU
AMD FX-9590
600W PSU

I can't seem to get my CPU to OC at even 4.9 GHz, when it runs at 4.7 GHz out of the box. I don't know a whole lot about overclocking though. However, I was hoping some CPU gurus could help me out or lead me in the right direction. Thanks!
 

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I have a h100i water cooling setup with 6 150 CFM case fans... But I still can't OC any more really? With Watch Dogs I seem to have problems getting good FPS, and my friend thought it was the fact that my CPU was bottlenecking the r9 290x, since most games aren't optimized for 8 core CPUs, besides like BF4. So in that case, should I get like an intel CPU? If so, which one? I'm also probably going to get a 1200W PSU soon, so that I can put my second R9 290x back in.
 

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It's an 8320 that is just over clocked. You could have saved money just buying the 8320 and a cooler, and OCing it yourself.

Edit: That AMD CPU is prob even bottlenecking that single r 290 (maybe). If you already have a second one for Xfire, and you are serious about performance and no bottlenecking, I suggest getting an K series i7 and OC that.
 
"Watch Dogs I seem to have problems getting good FPS, and my friend thought it was the fact that my CPU was bottlenecking the r9 290x" Not true watch dogs is poorly optimized for pc and still needs patching but you have no Cpu to Gpu bottleneck
 

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I do hope that you understand that Watch Dogs is probably one of the worst games to make a decision considering all the controversy surrounding the PC version with it's awful optimization and large amount of game breaking bugs. If you could play BF4 fine with no problems then your issues are with Watch Dogs not your setup.
 

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Tell that to the people who can run watchdogs at 77 FPS ultra FHD (well, a bit more) with ONE 290X
http://www.techspot.com/review/827-watch-dogs-benchmarks/page3.html
 


It's well known Watchdogs is coded like crap, but the only reason to have 2 290Xs in crossfire with a $300+ CPU and a liquid cooler is to power through poor optimization. If he still can't do that, while some people can, it sounds like there's still a problem for the price he paid.

Besides, an i7 is a nice upgrade either way, especially considering the Z97 boards are already set up for the next generation of CPUs.
 

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an i7 4770k will be enough for not bottlenecking your graphics (or the 4790k in that case), but please do not get x cpus from intel. They are overpriced, and has no advantages. Compare 4930k to 4960x. Clock speed and cache afaik, why would you spend over 100$ more for the x then? For the sticker?
 
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From what I remember the UD3 is a bit of an odd motherboard for compatibility with the FX chips. It depends greatly on the revision number and more importantly I've heard about Gigabyte cheaping out and/or changing something with the power delivery that causes it to overclock poorly.
I read quite a lot into it while I was researching for an upgrade on my board (An old-ass AsRock 870 chipset) to the recently purchased Sabertooth. From what I remember, the UD5 also shared in this issue.

Considering the 9590 is just an 8350 with a mahoosive OC and possibly slightly better binned die, that could be the root of your problems.

As for WatchDogs, as stated above, Ubisoft are terrible at optimising games for PC (Assassins Creed 4 anyone?) so I wouldn't go solely on that result, I'm sure they'll eventually get around to fixing it. Can't say as I would recommend forking out for a whole new board and CPU solely for one game, the 9590 may not be as good as the more recent Intel line, but there really isn't much in it, not worth a £250+ upgrade at least.

Your call dude, but remember that the 9590 doesn't really have much headroom for an OC, it already comes with a voltage of like 1.4-something from what I remember.
 

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no shit, ubisoft is bad at pc games :p It almost felt like they stole from me when i bought a game on uplay. Never another ubisoft game on pc again...

If he could return the 9590, and get almost full refund, it could possibly benefit him a little bit. Depends on what the upgrading plans would be though.
 

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It seems like more and more people are buying CPU's these days just for the sake of OC'ing them. I don't get it. I buy a good enough CPU to play current games at stock settings, and OC later if as the CPU ages to extend it's life. I can only understand OC'ing a CPU out of the box if it was a mid range or low end budget build. If you buy a company's flagship enthusiast CPU AND still have to OC that sucker right away...then you just got yourself a crappy CPU.

Having said all that, the FX-9590 IS ALREADY OVERCLOCKED. AMD just suckered you into paying twice as much for something you could have done yourself with an FX-8320. This processor is a testament to modern marketing...to think that people will pay 4770k kind of money for something that has to be factory overclocked to the max just to (maybe) compete with the Intel at stock settings.
 


I couldn't agree more.
Besides, by the time you spend an extra $30 on an OC-able motherboard and an extra $30 on a decent cooler, you've spent enough to get a better CPU in the first place, without the extra work or potential stability issues.

If I had an OC-able CPU, I'd do it to improve the lifespan once it stopped running games to my satisfaction, but beyond that it's pretty much useless. Although it is required for AMD CPUs to compete with Intel at the price point.
 

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I just don't understand the FX-9590 at all. If you have enough money for that setup, why are you looking at AMD? If you're on a budget, the FX-6300 or FX-8320 are understandable. Anything beyond those and you should be building around an Intel platform.
 
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Are we really going to turn this in to yet another AMD vs Intel thread?
Like... isn't there already 4236 threads on that already?
 

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Yup :D
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/361389-28-intel
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/362943-28-gaming-intel
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/331798-28-intel
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/299632-28-intel
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1834328/amd-intel.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1649235/amd-intel.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1970980/amd-intel-cpu-gaming.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2116860/amd-intel.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2017756/amd-intel.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/363491-28-8350-intel-3770k
 

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It keeps coming up because people keep thinking they provide equal performance. The point of this forum is to point those poor souls in the right direction. Right now that direction leads to Intel.
 
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99.9% of the time I see it on here it's blatant fanboyism.
I'm not mocking the argument, but I rarely see such a comparison made. What I do see though, is people who have recently purchased an AMD chip, being outright told to move to Intel, from boys with an Intel CPU in their sig.

Like I said, I'm not mocking the argument, but there's a time and a place to compare stuff and that place is certainly not in a thread to which someone has just bought the CPU, it's an effort, cost and time waster for them to upgrade so soon after purchase.

Fanboyism is an entirely obvious thing to see when it happens because the opposing side gets little to no good points. The scale goes from either really shit - or really good. With no in between. This certainly and obviously extends further than PC components (Hello PS4 vs Xbone eh). The 9590 has its merits, not in today's world when comparing however, but it's worth remembering that even though something new and better is out, doesn't make the older something bad. This is especially true in the CPU market because, for current gaming anyway, they really haven't made all that much difference in the last few years. I know a few people still rocking first gen i-chips and continuing to enjoy them.

Myself for example, given the choice tomorrow morning, would whip out and buy an i5, or wait for Skylake.
Given the choice a year and a bit ago (2 years?) I opted for the 8350. Still love it, never had issues to date.
If someone asked me what to buy prior to purchasing, I would tell them to do the same thing too. If someone had just purchased a still-decent CPU and wanted opinions on it, I'd tell them the honest truth of it being capable, but a little bit old by today's standards.

This thread is neither. The original question was about overclocking the chip. The in-thread discussion, was about if it was worth making the switch so soon for bottlenecking sakes - the answer to that is no (Unless of course you're Paris Hilton and have zero regard for moneys worth, in which case, yeah sure, a gained percentage in performance is worth the few hundred pounds).
When you put preferences aside it becomes a lot clearer as to what will do what and for how much.

Again, I'm not mocking the argument. I would pick an Intel chip from here on out since AMD seem more focussed on the APU market currently. Plus, as I learnt yet again yesterday morning, someone needs the sack for coming up with the two clips mounting mechanism for heatsinks. Merely suggesting that it's an entirely pointless exercise to force someone into upgrading a newly purchased and, by all accounts, still decent enough, chip. The cost currently of an upgrade from a 9590 to a recent Intel CPU, board + chip + Windows (If applies) really doesn't garner enough performance benefit for the price. We're a generation or two from that.

Blow me that was quite the essay. I need a coffee now.

 

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That was quite an essay, and you made some good points. The thread did quickly get off track. As to the point of worth though, it all depends on a persons finances. I would actually have no problem at all Ebaying an FX-9590 and motherboard and eating some of the cost on a new Intel setup. To plenty of people that wouldn't be a big issue at all. Now, for say, a broke college student, it may be a bigger deal. I actually bought an FX-6300 at one point, hated it, ate the cost, went back to Microcenter and got a 4770k/motherboard combo.

Now I know the FX-6300 is way different than the 9590, but I would do the same in either case. It all depends on what you want out of your setup and how much discretionary income you have set aside for your hobby though.

To the OP, if it were me I would sell the FX and go over to the Intel side. Either way though, I don't think that thing is going to clock any higher.