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So yesterday my MSI R9 270 arrived, and I finally started using my computer for gaming. My FPS was great at first, but then I realized that every couple of seconds my fps would fluctuate from the regular 60+ fps all the way down to about 10 fps. At first I thought, "Hey maybe I just can't run this game at all". Then I thought "Oh yeah I'm playing minesweeper". But on the serious side I'm pretty sure that I should be able to play CS:GO at low settings with no fps drops. This doesn't only happen in one game this also happens in Minecraft and Sleeping Dogs. I checked the temperature of the CPU and it was at 75 degrees celsius and then I kinda started freaking out because I knew that it was way too high. When I'm not gaming it stays around 35 degrees and I think that it's a good temperature. Since I only started gaming on this PC yesterday, I never really noticed this until now. Please help me.
 
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Hello

If your CPU in the signature is correct, Phenom II X6 1100t, then you don't need to worry about your temps. You might think that 75C is too hot, but really it is fine. My laptop and desktop both have i7 CPUs and at full load can hit 80-82C often. I don't worry about it at all because while these temps aren't ideal and lower is better its still too low to cause damage.

If you are worried a lot, try better thermal paste or a better cooler, but honestly I wouldn't worry about it. Even my brother's i3 manages to hit mid 60C and that is with the stock cooler. All of these Intel CPUs I mention also are made with a much better lithography and produce a lot less heat than yours would normally also. So really that isn't such a concern.

For your FPS drop, chances are that it is either software issue, the GPU is overheating, or your power supply isn't pushing enough power.
 
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Thanks for the reply

I know it can't be my gpu that's overheating just because the fan of the card doesn't ever...(This is gonna sound stupid)...go fast enough. As it being a software issue I'm not sure because I have all the latest drivers and the latest software for my gpu. And I'm pretty sure my psu should be okay with handling this card as it only takes 1 6-pin connector and I would think that a 600w psu could support that. Other than that, I think I'm just gonna go and get a new cooler because mine wasn't even that good in the first place.
 
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What do you mean because of the fan of the card it doesn't go fast enough? If for any reason the fan on the card prevents it from hitting the top speed that would be a GPU heating issue. Though you might be thinking about the R9 290 series which drastically lower the clock speed depending on temperature, while most cards just become unstable or do odd things.

For the GPU drivers, the newest one isn't always the best one. Even new drivers reported as Stable can have issues and cause odd problems. It isn't uncommon to have to use a Beta driver or an old driver for best results.

You are right that PSU should be able to handle it without any issues.

You can try a better CPU cooler, it never hurts, but I have doubts it will help fix your problem unless it helps blow more heat out of the system and cool some other part which may be the problem.
 
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Oh well I meant if the card was overheating the fan would be roaring. The fan on the card has never gone over 50% before. And for the gpu drivers, I meant the newest stable one. The cpu cooler I'm using now is pretty bad so that's why I was saying it might be the reason...I don't even know if it cools it right in the first place.
 
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Couple of things.
1. Just because you have a 600 watt PSU, does not mean you have 600 watts to play with. Quality counts for everything in a PSU. Corsair CX 600 for example, has a rated 12v output of 432 watts, my little Seasonic m12 520 has a rated 12v output of 498 watts, so yes its very possible your PSU is shortchanging the gpus power draw.

2. You have an AMD card. AMD drivers are kinda finicky. When installing a new AMD card, its highly advised to get rid if any and all previous drivers or software. If its tagged AMD in the registry, dump it, get rid if it.. all if it, totally. I've even seen ppl with this same issue go so far as to format the HDD/ssd and do a completely clean install of Windows.

3. Fan speeds. You can check your gpu temps with software like realtemp or hwinfo or speccy. If the gpu is hitting 80C, then yes it may be throttling itself, its a defense mechanism. While your CPU temps may be fine, even mobo temps good, your gpu may be a little starved for fresh air when pushed during a game. If this is the case, it'll be obvious as the rest if the eq retains decent temps but the gpu spikes. Look into either turning up the intake fan speeds, or moving the intake fan to a higher slot, removing obstructions like HDD cages etc.
 
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Normally power supplies give the amount of power they say, its not very common they give less unless they are extremely cheap or crappy. Normally their efficiency and safety features vary greatly.

AMD drivers are fine. They were bad a few years ago but they haven't been finicky for years. Though if you did reinstall drivers of any kind a full removal can help.

If the fan speed is hitting 50% that is a good sign that it is having trouble. Most of them run way under 50% to keep the fan quiet. Like I think my 7850 normally doesn't go past 30-33% fan speed and that is at high. It also wears the fan faster at higher speeds so after it hit 50% it probably choose to throttle instead.
 
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Iinuyasha is sort of correct. Sort of. If a psu has a rated output of 600w, that's what it will put out. It's based on a screwy formula used on an average output of the 12v rail(s), the 3.3v rail and the 5v rail. Back a few years ago, the 3.3 and 5v rails played a more important role in the pc, which was why they were rated at such high amperage, usually 30 amps or more. Today's psu designs do not need to output anywhere near that amount of 3.3 or 5v, as CPU and gpu designs have adopted more of a 12v usage. However, the older design still works, for average, non-gamer type PCs since there is no need for a high amperage 12v draw, which a powerful gpu will require. So, it ain't broke, so they don't retool. End result is more than a few psu's claim high wattage, but its not all from the 12v rail.
 
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Yes which means what I said is entirely correct. I didn't go into the number of amps on a 12v rail because its common the PCI-E connection, or mixing multiple 12v rails using an adapter puts off plenty of amps.

Since the PCI-E power connection seems to be in use here, they are rated for a very specific level of power, 75w in this case, and are always built to be able to out put a number of amps that reaches that level. Only if he was using a very bad PSU and an adapter with a single low amp 12v rail would this be important.
 
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