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Glenn Zetlitz
June 29, 2014 6:36:24 AM
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Death of a computer
Hey all.
I have a serious computer problem and I can't seem to find out what's causing it.
It all started when I got a new gpu and set of ram.
Occasional bsod's started occuring.
I ran memtest86 and it found no errors. The Windows memory diagnostic tool found no errors either.
The bsod message in Windows mentioned a bad amd gpu driver.
I flashed my bios and made sure all drivers were up to date, but the bsods continued.
They were not frequent or consequent so I couldn't replicate them.
The computer worked fine after rebooting so I didn't give this the attention it probably deserved.
Now just the other day, I turned on my computer and it wouldn't boot Windows.
So I pulled out the system repair disk and it did it's thing. Computer was ok again and I could continue gaming.
The next day when I turned on my pc, and again it could not start Windows.
So I get all of my disks and do a clean install. After everything was up and running again, I thought the problem was solved.
I left the computer running whilst attending to something else. It went into sleep mode and when I woke it up, it was as if I never installed the video card drivers. (resolution was 800*600 or something).
So I figured I'd do a system restore, but it failed.
The Windows repair tool would not work either. Report mentioned some damaged .sys file.
Ok , yesterday I format my system disk, and do another clean install. After everything was ok yet again I shut the computer off.
On startup today, it yet again fails to boot Windows. After a recovery I got in, but it runs extremely slow.
Now my question is, what could cause this?
Damaged hd ?
Faulty memory ?
Damaged gpu?
Underpowered system (need better (psu)?
Anyone have any idea?
Thanks!
System specs(can't get copy/paste comp is dead):
Intel I7 860
Ballistix sports 2x8gb ddr3 ram. 1600mhz
Asus p7p55d pro mo-bo
2xsata hard drives (different brands)
Msi r9 290 gpu
Mist 500w psu
Death of a computer
Hey all.
I have a serious computer problem and I can't seem to find out what's causing it.
It all started when I got a new gpu and set of ram.
Occasional bsod's started occuring.
I ran memtest86 and it found no errors. The Windows memory diagnostic tool found no errors either.
The bsod message in Windows mentioned a bad amd gpu driver.
I flashed my bios and made sure all drivers were up to date, but the bsods continued.
They were not frequent or consequent so I couldn't replicate them.
The computer worked fine after rebooting so I didn't give this the attention it probably deserved.
Now just the other day, I turned on my computer and it wouldn't boot Windows.
So I pulled out the system repair disk and it did it's thing. Computer was ok again and I could continue gaming.
The next day when I turned on my pc, and again it could not start Windows.
So I get all of my disks and do a clean install. After everything was up and running again, I thought the problem was solved.
I left the computer running whilst attending to something else. It went into sleep mode and when I woke it up, it was as if I never installed the video card drivers. (resolution was 800*600 or something).
So I figured I'd do a system restore, but it failed.
The Windows repair tool would not work either. Report mentioned some damaged .sys file.
Ok , yesterday I format my system disk, and do another clean install. After everything was ok yet again I shut the computer off.
On startup today, it yet again fails to boot Windows. After a recovery I got in, but it runs extremely slow.
Now my question is, what could cause this?
Damaged hd ?
Faulty memory ?
Damaged gpu?
Underpowered system (need better (psu)?
Anyone have any idea?
Thanks!
System specs(can't get copy/paste comp is dead):
Intel I7 860
Ballistix sports 2x8gb ddr3 ram. 1600mhz
Asus p7p55d pro mo-bo
2xsata hard drives (different brands)
Msi r9 290 gpu
Mist 500w psu
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June 29, 2014 6:39:26 AM
moozilbee
June 29, 2014 6:47:35 AM
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Glenn Zetlitz
June 29, 2014 7:20:52 AM
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June 29, 2014 8:02:01 AM
Vic 40
June 29, 2014 1:02:10 PM
This psu?
http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we...
i would get another one anyway if it's this one.
The question about the old ram is a good one too.
http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we...
i would get another one anyway if it's this one.
The question about the old ram is a good one too.
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You just upgraded to a very power hungry GPU, an R9 290 needs 275W for itself. The specs i can find on the mist 500W PSU show it having dual 18A rails and a combined capacity of 380W on its 12V rail, 275W for the GPU + 50W for the motherboard/drives + 95W for the CPU puts you at 420W so your PSU never would have been able to handle the load. You cannot upgrade to a high end video card without checking that the rest of your specs can support it, you need to buy a new PSU
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16...
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16...
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Glenn Zetlitz
June 29, 2014 3:05:14 PM
@vic 40 Yes that's the one
as for the ram, I checked that my mo-bo supported it, and since I couldn't find any errors when running memtest and win mem diagnostic I just thought it was all good. Could the mem actually still be an issue?
@hunter315
I always suspected I had to get a new psu.
But I'm no expert by far when it comes to hardware. The site I bought the gpu from stated it needed at least 500w psu, so I figured I'd give it a go. I assumed (until now) that a 500w psu gave me 500w . Would you mind explaning to me(or linking me to a good explanation in layman's terms) how power distribution actually works?
Thanks for your help so far guys.
as for the ram, I checked that my mo-bo supported it, and since I couldn't find any errors when running memtest and win mem diagnostic I just thought it was all good. Could the mem actually still be an issue?
@hunter315
I always suspected I had to get a new psu.
But I'm no expert by far when it comes to hardware. The site I bought the gpu from stated it needed at least 500w psu, so I figured I'd give it a go. I assumed (until now) that a 500w psu gave me 500w . Would you mind explaning to me(or linking me to a good explanation in layman's terms) how power distribution actually works?
Thanks for your help so far guys.
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June 29, 2014 3:11:01 PM
A modern computer system draws 80-90% of its power from the 12V rail of the PSU, it powers your GPU, CPU, motherboard, and anything with a motor. Older systems used to power the CPU off of the 5V rail so they had much strong 5V and 3.3V rails and much weaker 12V rails, those units are awful for modern systems. When picking out a PSU check the label, a good unit should have the majority of its power available on the 12V rail, you usually see a 500W unit with 40A(480W) on the 12V rail, in most modern units the 3.3V and 5V rails are generated off of the 12V rail, but the loads on those two rails are quite low.
PSUs are heavily impacted by age and temperature, a good unit will be built to function at full capacity at 50C, a cheaper unit will be built to function at full capacity at 25C and will lose 1-4W/C above that, so by the time you get to 50C you could be short 100W of the rated capacity. As components get older they also start to lose capacity, capacitors are a good example of this, they smooth out the power and lose capacity over time as a function of temperature, for every 10C different they age 2x faster, so a good unit built with 105C capacitors will last 4x longer than a cheap one made with 85C caps.
As for efficiency, yes they are more efficient in the middle but the difference is rather small so that is a moot point, the extra 2% efficiency at 60% load will never pay off the extra spent on an oversized PSU. As long as you get 80+ bronze rated PSU and up the efficiency curve is pretty flat.
Where are you able to buy from? There have been some suprisingly good deals on XFX PSUs lately, the EVGA G2 Supernova Series is also good and well priced generally but it really depends on your selection. For a system with an R9 290 i'd really suggest looking at a 650W PSU.
PSUs are heavily impacted by age and temperature, a good unit will be built to function at full capacity at 50C, a cheaper unit will be built to function at full capacity at 25C and will lose 1-4W/C above that, so by the time you get to 50C you could be short 100W of the rated capacity. As components get older they also start to lose capacity, capacitors are a good example of this, they smooth out the power and lose capacity over time as a function of temperature, for every 10C different they age 2x faster, so a good unit built with 105C capacitors will last 4x longer than a cheap one made with 85C caps.
As for efficiency, yes they are more efficient in the middle but the difference is rather small so that is a moot point, the extra 2% efficiency at 60% load will never pay off the extra spent on an oversized PSU. As long as you get 80+ bronze rated PSU and up the efficiency curve is pretty flat.
Where are you able to buy from? There have been some suprisingly good deals on XFX PSUs lately, the EVGA G2 Supernova Series is also good and well priced generally but it really depends on your selection. For a system with an R9 290 i'd really suggest looking at a 650W PSU.
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Glenn Zetlitz
June 30, 2014 12:20:35 AM
Thank you for your thorough answer. Great stuff. I had no idea a psu lost such significant power efficiency.
And just to clarify: an underpowered psu could cause the problems I wrote about in my initial post?
I have been hinting to my underpowered psu at several forums but answers in general have focused on the ram.
I'm planning to purchase either the cooler master v1000 or the xfx black edition 1050. Both are in the 80's and have gotten some great reviews.
They are however somewhat costly c so for now I'll bite the bullet and uninstall my shiny new r9 290 and revert to my old gpu.
I really hope that'll help and that I haven't inflicted irreversible damage on my computer.
And if that doesn't work I guess I have to take a better look at the memory chips as well.
I'll report back when I know if this helped.
And just to clarify: an underpowered psu could cause the problems I wrote about in my initial post?
I have been hinting to my underpowered psu at several forums but answers in general have focused on the ram.
I'm planning to purchase either the cooler master v1000 or the xfx black edition 1050. Both are in the 80's and have gotten some great reviews.
They are however somewhat costly c so for now I'll bite the bullet and uninstall my shiny new r9 290 and revert to my old gpu.
I really hope that'll help and that I haven't inflicted irreversible damage on my computer.
And if that doesn't work I guess I have to take a better look at the memory chips as well.
I'll report back when I know if this helped.
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Vic 40
June 30, 2014 1:23:52 AM
Those over a 1000watts are way to heavy or you must want to go for crossfire.A 650watt psu should be fine for one card and overclocking,this will be less pricey too.
It's also possible that the new ram just isn't compatibel with your motherboard so probably why people point that way.Have you tested with the old ram?
It's also possible that the new ram just isn't compatibel with your motherboard so probably why people point that way.Have you tested with the old ram?
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June 30, 2014 7:39:59 AM
Glenn Zetlitz
June 30, 2014 9:14:20 AM
@vic 40
What do you mean by "way too heavy"? You mean it's overkill ? I'm just trying to learn from my mistakes. When I built the computer I thought the 500 would be more than enough for years to come..
i checked the mo-bo/ram compatibility. They should be ok. (Mb:Asus p7p55d pro ram: Ballistix sport 2x8gb ddr3 1600 (pc3 - 12800) cl9 @ 1,5v.)
I've just put back my old gpu and my old ram, but the computer runs so slowly it's hard to get anything done.
I have memtest86 on a usb, so I'm going to check the new sticks one by one.
But seeing the computer running so extremely slowly now, should I promote my hard drive to the prime suspect ?
Any good tools besides chkdsk to determine if my hd is corrupted?
I have to hard drives btw. Maybe I should reinstall win yet again, make the other one the system drive , remove the one I use as system drive now to see if the problems persist?
What do you mean by "way too heavy"? You mean it's overkill ? I'm just trying to learn from my mistakes. When I built the computer I thought the 500 would be more than enough for years to come..
i checked the mo-bo/ram compatibility. They should be ok. (Mb:Asus p7p55d pro ram: Ballistix sport 2x8gb ddr3 1600 (pc3 - 12800) cl9 @ 1,5v.)
I've just put back my old gpu and my old ram, but the computer runs so slowly it's hard to get anything done.
I have memtest86 on a usb, so I'm going to check the new sticks one by one.
But seeing the computer running so extremely slowly now, should I promote my hard drive to the prime suspect ?
Any good tools besides chkdsk to determine if my hd is corrupted?
I have to hard drives btw. Maybe I should reinstall win yet again, make the other one the system drive , remove the one I use as system drive now to see if the problems persist?
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Vic 40
June 30, 2014 9:33:29 AM
You could try to run a test on the hdd's with a tool from the manufacturer or the next,
http://www.hdtune.com/download.html
do the error test and look at the smart values.
You could also swap both drives to see if the current systenm drive is bad,but that's more work.
Have you tried the bios reset/clear cmos with the old ram too?
Do you have ahci enabled in the bios?
Did you check the sata cables or with different ones? Maybe try the one from the second drive with the system drive.
Look at this and see if the hdd is in pio mode,
https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=w...
Look under "Enabling DMA Mode Transfers" how to enable this and/or look if it is enabled.
http://www.hdtune.com/download.html
do the error test and look at the smart values.
You could also swap both drives to see if the current systenm drive is bad,but that's more work.
Have you tried the bios reset/clear cmos with the old ram too?
Do you have ahci enabled in the bios?
Did you check the sata cables or with different ones? Maybe try the one from the second drive with the system drive.
Look at this and see if the hdd is in pio mode,
https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=w...
Look under "Enabling DMA Mode Transfers" how to enable this and/or look if it is enabled.
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Glenn Zetlitz
June 30, 2014 10:21:45 AM
@vic 40
Thanks for your suggestions, I shall look into it once I've memtested my ram.
As for the cmos, this is all new to me.
I did update my bios after the bsods started occurring. (used ez flash), but I don't have that anymore because I formatted the usb to make room for memtest86.
I shall definitely try switching power cables between the drives. Maybe it'll help.
As for anything that has to be done in Windows, that's out of the question. The system quite simply runs too slowly to do anything. I'm talking maybe 10 mins just to open the Windows explorer. Seeing the content of a folder is even slower.
Basically this leaves me only with the option of working with programs I can use on boot up. (like memtest)
"Ahci"?
Also, wouldn't resetting my cmos mean I have to update the bios again?
I can however use my gf's laptop to download stuff on a usb.
Thanks for your suggestions, I shall look into it once I've memtested my ram.
As for the cmos, this is all new to me.
I did update my bios after the bsods started occurring. (used ez flash), but I don't have that anymore because I formatted the usb to make room for memtest86.
I shall definitely try switching power cables between the drives. Maybe it'll help.
As for anything that has to be done in Windows, that's out of the question. The system quite simply runs too slowly to do anything. I'm talking maybe 10 mins just to open the Windows explorer. Seeing the content of a folder is even slower.
Basically this leaves me only with the option of working with programs I can use on boot up. (like memtest)
"Ahci"?
Also, wouldn't resetting my cmos mean I have to update the bios again?
I can however use my gf's laptop to download stuff on a usb.
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Vic 40
June 30, 2014 11:00:02 AM
Clearing the cmos will reset the bios,that will be the latest you put on it and it will not be necessary to update the bios again.You should after that set the optimal default settings You might also need to set the time and date right again.
Clearing the cmos can be done by moving the right jumper for about 5seconds,which that is will you find in the manual for your motherboard.
The other way to do that is by taking the pc completely of the power=cable out of the wall and removing the battery for about 15minutes,after that put it back again,again set the bios to it's optimal default settings.
Ahci will you find under the sata settings in the bios,probably under the "advanced" tab.or something like that.Again read the manual for that,it can be downloaded from the asus site.Probably a pdf file.
It could be that you could run hd-tune from the hiren's boot cd,
http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
http://www.hirensbootcd.org/files/Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zi... (download zip is in the green marked section)
make a bootable device with this and try hd-tune.
Clearing the cmos can be done by moving the right jumper for about 5seconds,which that is will you find in the manual for your motherboard.
The other way to do that is by taking the pc completely of the power=cable out of the wall and removing the battery for about 15minutes,after that put it back again,again set the bios to it's optimal default settings.
Ahci will you find under the sata settings in the bios,probably under the "advanced" tab.or something like that.Again read the manual for that,it can be downloaded from the asus site.Probably a pdf file.
It could be that you could run hd-tune from the hiren's boot cd,
http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
http://www.hirensbootcd.org/files/Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zi... (download zip is in the green marked section)
make a bootable device with this and try hd-tune.
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Glenn Zetlitz
June 30, 2014 11:43:03 AM
Vic 40
June 30, 2014 12:24:00 PM
Glenn Zetlitz
July 1, 2014 6:09:36 AM
ok then.
what i've done now, is that i let memtest run a thorough control of both ram chips. they are ok.
so next i went into bios and changed hard drives to AHCI and reinstalled windows on a new partition.
Using my old gpu and my new memory chips, the system now seems ok.
I'm running a check on one of the partitions (i created a smaller one for windows, an a larger for storing files) to see if the hard drive is ok.
I haven't had enough time to state that problem is solved, but it sure looks better that it did yesterday.
what i've done now, is that i let memtest run a thorough control of both ram chips. they are ok.
so next i went into bios and changed hard drives to AHCI and reinstalled windows on a new partition.
Using my old gpu and my new memory chips, the system now seems ok.
I'm running a check on one of the partitions (i created a smaller one for windows, an a larger for storing files) to see if the hard drive is ok.
I haven't had enough time to state that problem is solved, but it sure looks better that it did yesterday.
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Glenn Zetlitz
July 3, 2014 12:14:41 PM
Hopefully my final update on this subject.
The computer ran fine with the new ram/old gpu setup. So I've now ordered and installed my my xfx 850w psu and my r9 290 gpu.
Going to see how it works out, if my problems persist there must be some damage to either hard drive or the gpu itself.
Thanks for your help guys!
The computer ran fine with the new ram/old gpu setup. So I've now ordered and installed my my xfx 850w psu and my r9 290 gpu.
Going to see how it works out, if my problems persist there must be some damage to either hard drive or the gpu itself.
Thanks for your help guys!
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July 3, 2014 1:00:20 PM
Glenn Zetlitz
July 6, 2014 1:29:32 AM
Well, I guess I'm back...
The computer has been running for a couple of days, with only some minor issues.
It freezes for about a minute or so from time to time. (not in games) and then continues as normal.
Also I have had a couple of error messages on via hd audio, and the raptr app. (amd gaming evolved).
Now when I turned on my computer this morning it booted up normally, but when I tried launching steam, it froze. After a little while the screen went black for a few seconds and then I was presented with a Windows background and a set of error messages concerning 6-engine (Asus mb software). I think there were three or four errors. (dumb as I am I didn't take a picture of them, so I can't remember what they said...)When I had clicked through the errors, I got a bsod. I grabbed my mobile phone to take a pic of the bsod, but it disappeared too fast. The error code ended in f4
On rebooting computer ran chkdsk wich deleted and restored a bunch of files.
I am now back in Windows and the details from the unexpected termination is as follows:
Blue Screen
OS-version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Nat.id.: 1044
Additional info:
BCCode : f4
Bcp1: 0000000000000003
Bcp2: FFFFFA800FE97060
BCP3: FFFFFA800FE7340
BCP4: FFFFF80003188270
OS version: 6_1_7601
Service pack: 1_0
Product: 768_1
I have no idea what this means. Any and all help is appreciated!
The computer has been running for a couple of days, with only some minor issues.
It freezes for about a minute or so from time to time. (not in games) and then continues as normal.
Also I have had a couple of error messages on via hd audio, and the raptr app. (amd gaming evolved).
Now when I turned on my computer this morning it booted up normally, but when I tried launching steam, it froze. After a little while the screen went black for a few seconds and then I was presented with a Windows background and a set of error messages concerning 6-engine (Asus mb software). I think there were three or four errors. (dumb as I am I didn't take a picture of them, so I can't remember what they said...)When I had clicked through the errors, I got a bsod. I grabbed my mobile phone to take a pic of the bsod, but it disappeared too fast. The error code ended in f4
On rebooting computer ran chkdsk wich deleted and restored a bunch of files.
I am now back in Windows and the details from the unexpected termination is as follows:
Blue Screen
OS-version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Nat.id.: 1044
Additional info:
BCCode : f4
Bcp1: 0000000000000003
Bcp2: FFFFFA800FE97060
BCP3: FFFFFA800FE7340
BCP4: FFFFF80003188270
OS version: 6_1_7601
Service pack: 1_0
Product: 768_1
I have no idea what this means. Any and all help is appreciated!
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Vic 40
July 6, 2014 2:40:44 AM
Glenn Zetlitz
July 6, 2014 4:05:33 AM
The old mem worked fine. But new RAM has been cleared by both memtest86 and win.mem.diag.tool.
Also New RAM/old gpu setup worked. Although I didn't test it for more than two days. I still got those freezes though.
Could this be a hard drive failure i wonder?
I was running hd tune just now. It found 2 bad sectors pretty early on. I left the computer and it showed a . I don't know what hd tune found a dos screen promting me to enter a valid boot drive and reboot.
I rebooted, hit f8 and set boot to the system hd and Windows booted as it should.
I really can't seem to figure out what's up. It's all just a little information overload atm.
I may have to bite the bullet and send it to a repair shop.
Also New RAM/old gpu setup worked. Although I didn't test it for more than two days. I still got those freezes though.
Could this be a hard drive failure i wonder?
I was running hd tune just now. It found 2 bad sectors pretty early on. I left the computer and it showed a . I don't know what hd tune found a dos screen promting me to enter a valid boot drive and reboot.
I rebooted, hit f8 and set boot to the system hd and Windows booted as it should.
I really can't seem to figure out what's up. It's all just a little information overload atm.
I may have to bite the bullet and send it to a repair shop.
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Vic 40
July 6, 2014 4:16:15 AM
If the old ram works fine is it imo the new ram that gives these problems no matter what memtest says,memtest isn't always right.Maybe there's nothing really wrong wth the new ram but is it just not compatibel with the motherboard.
You could give some extra voltage or try lowering the speed of the ram to see if that works better.
You could give some extra voltage or try lowering the speed of the ram to see if that works better.
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July 6, 2014 4:31:12 AM
upon rebooting i found hd tune had indeed left a report from the hd scan.
sorry for ugly block of upcoming text.
HD Tune Pro: Samsung HD103UJ S.M.A.R.T.
Status ID Current Worst Threshold Value Description
OK (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 51 0 Number of hardware read errors: 0
OK (03) Spin Up Time 69 69 11 10110 Spin up time: 10,1 seconds
OK (04) Start/Stop Count 96 96 0 3718 Number of start/stop cycles: 3718
OK (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 10 0 Number of retired sectors : 0
OK (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 51 1 Number of seek errors: 1
OK (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 15 9907 Seek time performance
OK (09) Power On Hours Count 97 97 0 14181 Number of hours in power-on state: 14181 (590 days)
OK (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 51 0 Number of spin up attempts after a spin up failure: 0
Attention (0B) Calibration Retry Count 100 100 0 1 Number of calibration attempts after a calibration failure: 1
OK (0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 0 2203 Number of power on/off cycles: 2203
OK (0D) Soft Read Error Rate 100 100 0 0 Number of uncorrected read errors: 0
OK (B7) SATA Downshift Count 100 100 0 0 Number of SATA downshifts due to error: 0
OK (B8) End To End Error Detection 100 100 0 0
OK (BB) Uncorrectable Error Count 100 100 0 0 Number of uncorrected reads: 0
OK (BC) Command Timeout 100 100 0 0 Number of times a command was aborted after a timeout: 0
OK (BE) Airflow Temperature 73 59 0 453902363 Airflow temperature: 27°C
OK (C2) Temperature 71 59 0 504234013 Temperature: 29°C
OK (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 100 100 0 1303938 Number of error code correction (ECC) errors: 1303938
OK (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 0 Number of sector replacement operations: 0
OK (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Number of unstable sectors: 0
OK (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Number of uncorrected errors: 0
OK (C7) Interface CRC Error Count 100 100 0 0 Number of interface communication errors: 0
OK (C8) Write Error Rate 100 100 0 0 Number of write errors: 0
OK (C9) Soft Read Error Rate 253 253 0 0
Attentions : 0
Warnings : 1
Failures : 0
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Status ID Current Worst Threshold Value Description
OK (01) Raw Read Error Rate 118 89 6 191636572 Number of hardware read errors: 191636572
OK (03) Spin Up Time 100 92 0 0 Spin up time: 0,0 seconds
OK (04) Start/Stop Count 96 96 20 4257 Number of start/stop cycles: 4257
Attention (05) Reallocated Sector Count 98 98 36 87 Number of retired sectors : 87
OK (07) Seek Error Rate 79 60 30 13204414987 Number of seek errors: 13204414987
OK (09) Power On Hours Count 84 84 0 14880 Number of hours in power-on state: 14880 (620 days)
Attention (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 20 Number of spin up attempts after a spin up failure: 20
OK (0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 20 2204 Number of power on/off cycles: 2204
OK (B8) End To End Error Detection 100 100 99 0
OK (BB) Uncorrectable Error Count 1 1 0 1888 Number of uncorrected reads: 1888
OK (BC) Command Timeout 100 99 0 167506280489 Number of times a command was aborted after a timeout: 167506280489
OK (BD) Unknown Attribute 1 1 0 167
OK (BE) Airflow Temperature 64 51 45 638844964 Airflow temperature: 36°C
OK (C2) Temperature 36 49 0 38654705700 Temperature: 36°C
OK (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 49 23 0 191636572 Number of error code correction (ECC) errors: 191636572
Attention (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 374 Number of unstable sectors: 374
OK (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 374 Number of uncorrected errors: 374
OK (C7) Interface CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Number of interface communication errors: 0
OK (F0) Head Flying Hours 100 253 0 188725157967615
OK (F1) Unknown Attribute 100 253 0 389564850 Data written: 389564850 GB
OK (F2) Unknown Attribute 100 253 0 -381642914 Data read: -381642914 GB
Attentions : 0
Warnings : 3
Failures : 0
i don't even have a clue what this is supposed to tell me, other than.. "Hmmm... I see a yellow warning sing. Something may be damaged". to me it sems like one of the drives is failing. Also get a read error when doing the hd tune "self test"on that second drive.
Anyone know how to read these?
As for the memory possibility. what should i do? return to vendor?
the settings shoud be right. the freq. and clocking seems ok.
sorry for ugly block of upcoming text.
HD Tune Pro: Samsung HD103UJ S.M.A.R.T.
Status ID Current Worst Threshold Value Description
OK (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 51 0 Number of hardware read errors: 0
OK (03) Spin Up Time 69 69 11 10110 Spin up time: 10,1 seconds
OK (04) Start/Stop Count 96 96 0 3718 Number of start/stop cycles: 3718
OK (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 10 0 Number of retired sectors : 0
OK (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 51 1 Number of seek errors: 1
OK (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 15 9907 Seek time performance
OK (09) Power On Hours Count 97 97 0 14181 Number of hours in power-on state: 14181 (590 days)
OK (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 51 0 Number of spin up attempts after a spin up failure: 0
Attention (0B) Calibration Retry Count 100 100 0 1 Number of calibration attempts after a calibration failure: 1
OK (0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 0 2203 Number of power on/off cycles: 2203
OK (0D) Soft Read Error Rate 100 100 0 0 Number of uncorrected read errors: 0
OK (B7) SATA Downshift Count 100 100 0 0 Number of SATA downshifts due to error: 0
OK (B8) End To End Error Detection 100 100 0 0
OK (BB) Uncorrectable Error Count 100 100 0 0 Number of uncorrected reads: 0
OK (BC) Command Timeout 100 100 0 0 Number of times a command was aborted after a timeout: 0
OK (BE) Airflow Temperature 73 59 0 453902363 Airflow temperature: 27°C
OK (C2) Temperature 71 59 0 504234013 Temperature: 29°C
OK (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 100 100 0 1303938 Number of error code correction (ECC) errors: 1303938
OK (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 0 Number of sector replacement operations: 0
OK (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Number of unstable sectors: 0
OK (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Number of uncorrected errors: 0
OK (C7) Interface CRC Error Count 100 100 0 0 Number of interface communication errors: 0
OK (C8) Write Error Rate 100 100 0 0 Number of write errors: 0
OK (C9) Soft Read Error Rate 253 253 0 0
Attentions : 0
Warnings : 1
Failures : 0
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Status ID Current Worst Threshold Value Description
OK (01) Raw Read Error Rate 118 89 6 191636572 Number of hardware read errors: 191636572
OK (03) Spin Up Time 100 92 0 0 Spin up time: 0,0 seconds
OK (04) Start/Stop Count 96 96 20 4257 Number of start/stop cycles: 4257
Attention (05) Reallocated Sector Count 98 98 36 87 Number of retired sectors : 87
OK (07) Seek Error Rate 79 60 30 13204414987 Number of seek errors: 13204414987
OK (09) Power On Hours Count 84 84 0 14880 Number of hours in power-on state: 14880 (620 days)
Attention (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 20 Number of spin up attempts after a spin up failure: 20
OK (0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 20 2204 Number of power on/off cycles: 2204
OK (B8) End To End Error Detection 100 100 99 0
OK (BB) Uncorrectable Error Count 1 1 0 1888 Number of uncorrected reads: 1888
OK (BC) Command Timeout 100 99 0 167506280489 Number of times a command was aborted after a timeout: 167506280489
OK (BD) Unknown Attribute 1 1 0 167
OK (BE) Airflow Temperature 64 51 45 638844964 Airflow temperature: 36°C
OK (C2) Temperature 36 49 0 38654705700 Temperature: 36°C
OK (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 49 23 0 191636572 Number of error code correction (ECC) errors: 191636572
Attention (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 374 Number of unstable sectors: 374
OK (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 374 Number of uncorrected errors: 374
OK (C7) Interface CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Number of interface communication errors: 0
OK (F0) Head Flying Hours 100 253 0 188725157967615
OK (F1) Unknown Attribute 100 253 0 389564850 Data written: 389564850 GB
OK (F2) Unknown Attribute 100 253 0 -381642914 Data read: -381642914 GB
Attentions : 0
Warnings : 3
Failures : 0
i don't even have a clue what this is supposed to tell me, other than.. "Hmmm... I see a yellow warning sing. Something may be damaged". to me it sems like one of the drives is failing. Also get a read error when doing the hd tune "self test"on that second drive.
Anyone know how to read these?
As for the memory possibility. what should i do? return to vendor?
the settings shoud be right. the freq. and clocking seems ok.
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July 8, 2014 10:45:53 AM
Another day, another update.
I downloaded Seagate's own hd diag.tool (as one of my drives is a Seagate the other a Samsung) and it found several errors. More than one of the tests failed, and I got a message in the log, urging me to back up my files before the drive was too damaged.
Well I how now removed the faulty hard drive, and have installed Windows on the other drive.
I'm really hoping this will solve most of my issues.
I did however notice that my cpu was generating very high temps.
I'm talking high 90's Celsius!
This may have been the reason for sluggish performance and Windows freezes.
I think this might be related to the out of the box overclocking on the mo.bo.
I changed it (with the Asus six-engine utility ) to go on power save mode, just with full case fan power, and cpu temp started sinking. At least when idling.
I don't have any thermal paste atm,so I guess I'll have to settle with a thorough cleaning.
Will yet again report back after a day or two of using the computer as normal.
I downloaded Seagate's own hd diag.tool (as one of my drives is a Seagate the other a Samsung) and it found several errors. More than one of the tests failed, and I got a message in the log, urging me to back up my files before the drive was too damaged.
Well I how now removed the faulty hard drive, and have installed Windows on the other drive.
I'm really hoping this will solve most of my issues.
I did however notice that my cpu was generating very high temps.
I'm talking high 90's Celsius!
This may have been the reason for sluggish performance and Windows freezes.
I think this might be related to the out of the box overclocking on the mo.bo.
I changed it (with the Asus six-engine utility ) to go on power save mode, just with full case fan power, and cpu temp started sinking. At least when idling.
I don't have any thermal paste atm,so I guess I'll have to settle with a thorough cleaning.
Will yet again report back after a day or two of using the computer as normal.
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July 13, 2014 2:16:52 AM
Glenn Zetlitz
July 13, 2014 3:49:59 AM
I don't really know. I took the heatsink off to clean it, but I didn't have any thermal paste, so I can't run the computer in fear of damaging the processor.
But one of the hard drives had lots of errors on it so I took it out.
Also I did a thorough cleaning and it really improved the airflow greatly reducing the temperatures .
I am however starting , as you have pointed out, that the ram may be faulty. But I can't really check it out before I purchase some thermal paste.
But one of the hard drives had lots of errors on it so I took it out.
Also I did a thorough cleaning and it really improved the airflow greatly reducing the temperatures .
I am however starting , as you have pointed out, that the ram may be faulty. But I can't really check it out before I purchase some thermal paste.
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July 16, 2014 2:28:11 PM
Glenn Zetlitz
September 13, 2014 11:01:06 AM
Glenn Zetlitz
September 24, 2014 3:24:05 AM
Ok then...
I have applied new thermal paste, and my temperatures are now under control.
The bsods continued until I found a very helpful bit of info on another site.
It suggested I download gpu tweak, and manually adjusting the 2D-settings. After I did this I have not yet experienced any crashes! Hallelujah!
There are however still a pretty annoying issue I'm having. In many games I am getting graphic glitches. (artifacts?)
In State of Decay the zombies have long lines from their heads, indicating what direction they are looking. In football manager 2014 the menu buttons are glitching. (spikes or long lines over the screen).
Is this driver related?
After all the reading I've done over the last weeks, it seems the r9 290 was a shitty purchase, as ALOT of people are having all kinds of issues with them...
Anyone got any good fixes for the graphic glitches ?
Thanks!
I have applied new thermal paste, and my temperatures are now under control.
The bsods continued until I found a very helpful bit of info on another site.
It suggested I download gpu tweak, and manually adjusting the 2D-settings. After I did this I have not yet experienced any crashes! Hallelujah!
There are however still a pretty annoying issue I'm having. In many games I am getting graphic glitches. (artifacts?)
In State of Decay the zombies have long lines from their heads, indicating what direction they are looking. In football manager 2014 the menu buttons are glitching. (spikes or long lines over the screen).
Is this driver related?
After all the reading I've done over the last weeks, it seems the r9 290 was a shitty purchase, as ALOT of people are having all kinds of issues with them...
Anyone got any good fixes for the graphic glitches ?
Thanks!
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September 24, 2014 11:27:00 AM
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