Do You Need A Graphics Card If You Have The Amd Kaveri Installed IN your Build?

mastertkb

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Yes it does sound like a stupid question but sense the Kaveri has gpu cores integrated with cpu cores would you need a graphics card for a system with the Kaveri installed. If so what current graphics cards are compatible with the APU?
 
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No, you do not need a Graphics Card. All graphics cards are compatible, with the R7 series being able to Crossfire with it.

Andrew Buck

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No, you do not need a Graphics Card. All graphics cards are compatible, with the R7 series being able to Crossfire with it.
 
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Akhil Potukuchi

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you wouldn't need one but you wont be able to game much with the apu's gpu. the apu's are made to be used without gf cards. All the current graf cards are compatible. but an apu may bottleneck a high end card. Anyways which apu ar u talking about??
 

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The CPU portion is the Steamroller AMD Architecture and is quad core, so that will indeed bottleneck any card higher than the Radeon R7 265 or GTX 660. The GPU portion is in no way bad. It has 8 GPU cores, which for comparison, the Radeon R9 290 has 40 cores. That means that the R9 290 is theoretically 8 times as powerful than the integrated GPU. This GPU will run most games at medium settings on 720p and low settings at 1080p. This means that it had 512 Stream Processors, with GCN AMD Architecture. In performance, it performs between the R7 250 and the R7 250X. It is exactly 2/3 as powerful as an R7 260, and is 1 1/3 times as powerful as the R7 250 (R7 250 is 3/4 as powerful). I hope this helps. You do not need another GPU.
 

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Any amd Kaveri APU really but I'm mostly leaning toward the AMD A10-7850K Kaveri 12 Compute Cores (4 CPU + 8 GPU) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113359&cm_re=apu-_-19-113-359-_-Product)
 

Akhil Potukuchi

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Yup this is a good apu but you really won't be able to game on 1080p using an a10.
 

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Yes, you will. The APU's GPU chip is the same GCN architecture and has 8 cores. In comparison, the R7 265 has 16, while the R9 270(x) has 20. That means that it is half as powerful as an R7 265 and a little less than that (3/8) with the 270(x). If you clock it the same way with MSI Afterburner, you will probably hit 20 fps on Ultra in BF4 and 40 fps on Medium. Probably close to 60 on low, over 60 on 720p/900 medium/low respectively.
 

Akhil Potukuchi

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Look at tis: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2014/01/30/amd-a10-7850k-and-a10-7700k-kaveri-review/9
and this: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2014/01/30/amd-a10-7850k-and-a10-7700k-kaveri-review/7
and this: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2014/01/30/amd-a10-7850k-and-a10-7700k-kaveri-review/8
 

Andrew Buck

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Exactly what I am saying. Those are 1080P benchmarks. As I said, most games are playable at 1080p lowest settings, 720p / 900p, medium, low.
 

Akhil Potukuchi

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On that I agree with you. End of Argument. Period.