What is the better gaming pc?
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jmracerboy
June 29, 2014 2:27:08 PM
Hi,
I am planning on building a gaming pc in the near future. One of the builds is a more budget-orientated pc (mostly AMD), the other is more performance orientated (Intel and nVidia). They should both (on paper at least) perform similarly to each other, with the Intel and nVidia pc edging ahead slightly.
What are your thoughts? Which is the better build? Should I mix and match some components, although preferably from the listed parts, unless there are better 'bang-for-buck' parts on similar performance levels to the ones listed.
Budget Build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PwwWBm
Performance Build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WbtzFT
I am planning on building a gaming pc in the near future. One of the builds is a more budget-orientated pc (mostly AMD), the other is more performance orientated (Intel and nVidia). They should both (on paper at least) perform similarly to each other, with the Intel and nVidia pc edging ahead slightly.
What are your thoughts? Which is the better build? Should I mix and match some components, although preferably from the listed parts, unless there are better 'bang-for-buck' parts on similar performance levels to the ones listed.
Budget Build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PwwWBm
Performance Build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WbtzFT
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June 29, 2014 2:35:49 PM
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Analgetic
June 29, 2014 2:36:36 PM
jmracerboy
June 29, 2014 2:54:45 PM
jmracerboy
June 29, 2014 3:10:09 PM
Hi,
I made some tweaks to your build that I think would make it quite a bit better. A R9 290 which is a step up from the 770, plus it has 4gb vram. While 2gb vram is more than enough for 1080p gaming, some games (watch dogs, wolfenstein) are locking some graphics settings to only cards with more than 3gb vram. While it's not widespread, if it's happening now, more games will probably do this in the future.
I dropped a set of fans and put that money towards a better mobo. You'll get a better OC and a more balanced build. 4 fans (2 that come with the case plus 2 extra) should be enough airflow for now, just watch the cable management.
Also changed the PSU to a better one.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($96.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VN247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($166.47 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($18.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($17.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1373.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
I made some tweaks to your build that I think would make it quite a bit better. A R9 290 which is a step up from the 770, plus it has 4gb vram. While 2gb vram is more than enough for 1080p gaming, some games (watch dogs, wolfenstein) are locking some graphics settings to only cards with more than 3gb vram. While it's not widespread, if it's happening now, more games will probably do this in the future.
I dropped a set of fans and put that money towards a better mobo. You'll get a better OC and a more balanced build. 4 fans (2 that come with the case plus 2 extra) should be enough airflow for now, just watch the cable management.
Also changed the PSU to a better one.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($96.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VN247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($166.47 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($18.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($17.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1373.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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jmracerboy
June 29, 2014 10:54:19 PM
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jmracerboy
June 29, 2014 11:13:25 PM
i've got 3x200mm+1x140mm case fans and 120mm+140mm cpu cooler fans so i can't really scold you for overkill, but yes it is. My case/cooler just happened to come with a load of fans.
If you use stock fans for now, you would be perfectly fine. Adding more fans will keep it cooler, but in the interest of keeping to a budget, the money could be put elsewhere during the initial build and you can pick up fans pretty cheap later. As i said before, cable management is almost as important as fans, if you have a bunch of cables blocking your fans, there won't be any airflow regardless of how many you put on there.
If you use stock fans for now, you would be perfectly fine. Adding more fans will keep it cooler, but in the interest of keeping to a budget, the money could be put elsewhere during the initial build and you can pick up fans pretty cheap later. As i said before, cable management is almost as important as fans, if you have a bunch of cables blocking your fans, there won't be any airflow regardless of how many you put on there.
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jmracerboy
June 30, 2014 12:44:11 AM
jmracerboy
June 30, 2014 12:45:34 AM
PSU's are most efficient around mid-draw. So while you will only be pulling just over half of it's capacity with a single card, it would still actually be more efficient than an equally built 750w. PSU's only draw what they need, they don't actually draw to their peak capacity all the time. Really the most efficient PSU for 2x290's would be around 1500W. Other factors such as amps and multiple rails start coming into the equation but we don't really need to get into that.
As to the fan controller, it depends if you think you will use it. Despite having a fan controller myself, I always run my fans at max, as i only use my rig for gaming (everything else i use my laptop) and i'm too lazy to change it. Also i think they look cool, but as to whether you NEED one, i'd say no, you can usually run your fans off your mobo.
As to the fan controller, it depends if you think you will use it. Despite having a fan controller myself, I always run my fans at max, as i only use my rig for gaming (everything else i use my laptop) and i'm too lazy to change it. Also i think they look cool, but as to whether you NEED one, i'd say no, you can usually run your fans off your mobo.
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jmracerboy
June 30, 2014 7:54:11 AM
I'm gonna get a csm650w for now because I probably won't crossfire for another year now (due to money for psu and card and won't probably need to since it is a high end card). Might ditch the fan controller. Can someone tell me how many 4pin headers there are on mobo, also can I put a 3 pin in a 4 pin socket (I believe case fans are 3 pin). I will be able to control 4 pins anyway from motherboard and from software on pc, yes?
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jmracerboy
June 30, 2014 8:55:52 AM
This is the finalised build (I ditched the fan controller in favour of a better ssd since apparently the controller on the Kingston is out of date and a lot slower than the Samsung evo ssd)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Mmk2bv
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Mmk2bv
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From the Gigabyte website:
"1 x CPU fan header
1 x water cooling fan header (CPU_OPT)
3 x system fan headers"
And yes a 3 pin can go into a 4 pin socket. 4 pin is just for PWM fans. PWM can be controlled through software, while non PWM must be controlled through hardware.
Looks like a nice rig, have fun with it.
"1 x CPU fan header
1 x water cooling fan header (CPU_OPT)
3 x system fan headers"
And yes a 3 pin can go into a 4 pin socket. 4 pin is just for PWM fans. PWM can be controlled through software, while non PWM must be controlled through hardware.
Looks like a nice rig, have fun with it.
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