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June 30, 2014 10:30:13 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dstvqs

This is my Pentium G3258 build and I am wondering if this build will withstand my video editing and photo editing with Adobe software. Also I want to know if it can take gaming and overclocking.

Many thanks.

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June 30, 2014 10:36:00 AM

You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.
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June 30, 2014 10:38:27 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $538.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Much more effective.
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June 30, 2014 10:38:56 AM

You're definitely going to need a graphics card. What's your budget?
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June 30, 2014 10:45:14 AM

Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.
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June 30, 2014 10:47:01 AM

Andrew Buck said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $538.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Much more effective.


Why do I need those other Power Supply and Case will they improve overall gaming performance.
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June 30, 2014 10:47:14 AM

evan5021 said:
Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.


That would work, but remember, you would need a different motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $488.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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June 30, 2014 10:58:23 AM

Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.


That would work, but remember, you would need a different motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $488.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


There is a Newegg combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...
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June 30, 2014 10:59:50 AM

Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.


That would work, but remember, you would need a different motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $488.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


Yea
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June 30, 2014 11:00:43 AM

evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.


That would work, but remember, you would need a different motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $488.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


There is a Newegg combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...


That has an older chipset, so it may not work as well.
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June 30, 2014 11:03:29 AM

Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.


That would work, but remember, you would need a different motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $488.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


There is a Newegg combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...


That has an older chipset, so it may not work as well.


Do you mean FM2+?
Should I spend more to upgrade to AM3+?
It just seems like AMD is moving more to APUs
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June 30, 2014 11:05:56 AM

evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.


That would work, but remember, you would need a different motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $488.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


There is a Newegg combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...


That has an older chipset, so it may not work as well.


Do you mean FM2+?
Should I spend more to upgrade to AM3+?
It just seems like AMD is moving more to APUs


No, I mean that is an A55 board. The newest chipset is A88, but those are more expensive. The A78 is just fine for what you are doing. The other bundle also doesn't give that good of a PSU. There is one stick of RAM, there needs to be 2 for good performance.
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June 30, 2014 11:13:18 AM

Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.


That would work, but remember, you would need a different motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $488.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


There is a Newegg combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...


That has an older chipset, so it may not work as well.


Do you mean FM2+?
Should I spend more to upgrade to AM3+?
It just seems like AMD is moving more to APUs


No, I mean that is an A55 board. The newest chipset is A88, but those are more expensive. The A78 is just fine for what you are doing. The other bundle also doesn't give that good of a PSU. There is one stick of RAM, there needs to be 2 for good performance.


Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.
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June 30, 2014 11:21:05 AM

evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.


That would work, but remember, you would need a different motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $488.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


There is a Newegg combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...


That has an older chipset, so it may not work as well.


Do you mean FM2+?
Should I spend more to upgrade to AM3+?
It just seems like AMD is moving more to APUs


No, I mean that is an A55 board. The newest chipset is A88, but those are more expensive. The A78 is just fine for what you are doing. The other bundle also doesn't give that good of a PSU. There is one stick of RAM, there needs to be 2 for good performance.


Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


An Intel Pentium dual core will give you about the performance of an AMD Quad Core that is clocked at a much higher clock.
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June 30, 2014 11:31:30 AM

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Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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June 30, 2014 11:39:40 AM

Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking
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June 30, 2014 11:41:32 AM

evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


The B85 chipset is a low-cost business chipset, so no overclocking.
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June 30, 2014 11:41:54 AM

evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


Indeed, in fact, I like MSI because it has "OC GENIE" which will automatically detect and overclock your system to the optimal setting. If you want to manually crank up your CPU and voltage, it allows that as well.
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June 30, 2014 11:43:29 AM

Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.


That would work, but remember, you would need a different motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $488.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


There is a Newegg combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...


That has an older chipset, so it may not work as well.


Do you mean FM2+?
Should I spend more to upgrade to AM3+?
It just seems like AMD is moving more to APUs


No, I mean that is an A55 board. The newest chipset is A88, but those are more expensive. The A78 is just fine for what you are doing. The other bundle also doesn't give that good of a PSU. There is one stick of RAM, there needs to be 2 for good performance.


Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


An Intel Pentium dual core will give you about the performance of an AMD Quad Core that is clocked at a much higher clock.


Yea... Now I feel stupid because I forgot to mention that I want something future proof. With the Intel i7 line ahead of this cpu it could be a future upgrade
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June 30, 2014 11:44:49 AM

Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


The B85 chipset is a low-cost business chipset, so no overclocking.


That is incorrect.
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June 30, 2014 11:45:53 AM

evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Romeru said:
You won't be doing any gaming as of today with only a cpu with intel HD graphics. You'd need atleast an apu from AMD or a dedicated graphics card.
My other thought goes towards only using one stick of ram. Use two (2 x 4) so that you can run them in dual channel which allows for faster ram.


I was thinking of getting a a10-7850 Kaveri but I wasn't sure which would be faster.


That would work, but remember, you would need a different motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $488.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


There is a Newegg combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...


That has an older chipset, so it may not work as well.


Do you mean FM2+?
Should I spend more to upgrade to AM3+?
It just seems like AMD is moving more to APUs


No, I mean that is an A55 board. The newest chipset is A88, but those are more expensive. The A78 is just fine for what you are doing. The other bundle also doesn't give that good of a PSU. There is one stick of RAM, there needs to be 2 for good performance.


Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


An Intel Pentium dual core will give you about the performance of an AMD Quad Core that is clocked at a much higher clock.


Yea... Now I feel stupid because I forgot to mention that I want something future proof. With the Intel i7 line ahead of this cpu it could be a future upgrade


Most boards who have an 1150 socket will take an I7 same as a Pentium, as they're based on the same architecture, so no worries.
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June 30, 2014 11:46:23 AM

Okay, first of all I would highly recommend you stick with that Intel Pentium, since it can overclock like a beast, and has gaming performance comparable to even an i7 (when overclocked). As you can see in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evXpqpNhu_Y

Also recommend 2 sticks of RAM.

Also very highly recommend a dedicated GPU, every system deserves one. I personally have a Radeon HD 7770 that I got for $70 (with MIR). It can play pretty much everything at 1080p with decent to good frames per second.

At the moment, this 260X is available for the same price I got my 7770 for ($100 - $30 MIR = $70): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But the MIR appears to expire today. Nonetheless I would recommend at least a 250X, which appears to be the 7770 rebadged. But the 260X isn't much more expensive, so I'd probably still recommend that even if you don't get that card today.
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June 30, 2014 11:48:15 AM

Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


The B85 chipset is a low-cost business chipset, so no overclocking.


Thats a bit of a turn off because without overclocking this CPU is no better then other pentiums
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June 30, 2014 11:50:24 AM

evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


The B85 chipset is a low-cost business chipset, so no overclocking.


Thats a bit of a turn off because without overclocking this CPU is no better then other pentiums


http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/07/25/intel-...

And yeah, in my suggestion, I included a Z97 board, also with a GPU.
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June 30, 2014 11:51:19 AM

ratchet256 said:
Okay, first of all I would highly recommend you stick with that Intel Pentium, since it can overclock like a beast, and has gaming performance comparable to even an i7 (when overclocked). As you can see in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evXpqpNhu_Y

Also recommend 2 sticks of RAM.

Also very highly recommend a dedicated GPU, every system deserves one. I personally have a Radeon HD 7770 that I got for $70 (with MIR). It can play pretty much everything at 1080p with decent to good frames per second.

At the moment, this 260X is available for the same price I got my 7770 for ($100 - $30 MIR = $70): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But the MIR appears to expire today. Nonetheless I would recommend at least a 250X, which appears to be the 7770 rebadged. But the 260X isn't much more expensive, so I'd probably still recommend that even if you don't get that card today.


First off: You are amazing you watch Linus.
Second: Yea these look really good and I really needed someone to recommend GPUs because I have only used one which was an old NVidia with 128mb of memory so... I just needed this thank you!
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June 30, 2014 11:52:20 AM

Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


The B85 chipset is a low-cost business chipset, so no overclocking.


Thats a bit of a turn off because without overclocking this CPU is no better then other pentiums


http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/07/25/intel-...

And yeah, in my suggestion, I included a Z97 board, also with a GPU.


Let me try another build and I'll check back in a moment.
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June 30, 2014 11:55:02 AM

evan5021 said:
ratchet256 said:
Okay, first of all I would highly recommend you stick with that Intel Pentium, since it can overclock like a beast, and has gaming performance comparable to even an i7 (when overclocked). As you can see in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evXpqpNhu_Y

Also recommend 2 sticks of RAM.

Also very highly recommend a dedicated GPU, every system deserves one. I personally have a Radeon HD 7770 that I got for $70 (with MIR). It can play pretty much everything at 1080p with decent to good frames per second.

At the moment, this 260X is available for the same price I got my 7770 for ($100 - $30 MIR = $70): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But the MIR appears to expire today. Nonetheless I would recommend at least a 250X, which appears to be the 7770 rebadged. But the 260X isn't much more expensive, so I'd probably still recommend that even if you don't get that card today.


First off: You are amazing you watch Linus.
Second: Yea these look really good and I really needed someone to recommend GPUs because I have only used one which was an old NVidia with 128mb of memory so... I just needed this thank you!


A GTX 750 is a good and solid GPU, especially because it uses almost no power. It uses just around 60 W! One of my 270x's uses over 200 W! http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclocked-Dual-Link-Graph... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=CjkKEQ...
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June 30, 2014 11:57:02 AM

My goal of this build is a cheaper build but all of this seems to add up about the same as an i5 build.
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June 30, 2014 11:57:56 AM

evan5021 said:
My goal of this build is a cheaper build but all of this seems to add up about the same as an i5 build.


An i5 build is going to be probably towards $700-$800 for a good one.
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June 30, 2014 12:04:40 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($67.67 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax ECA3290A-G ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $435.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Less than $450, has an overclockable motheboard and a good GPU
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June 30, 2014 12:09:13 PM

Can I use my old hard drive (6 years old) and save 60 bucks?
7200RPM 250gb
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June 30, 2014 12:09:25 PM

evan5021 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


The B85 chipset is a low-cost business chipset, so no overclocking.


Thats a bit of a turn off because without overclocking this CPU is no better then other pentiums


Stop stop stop. That MSI I listed is Indeed more than capable of overclocking. DO NOT overpay for a Z97 chipset when there's no need to!
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June 30, 2014 12:16:34 PM

evan5021 said:
Can I use my old hard drive (6 years old) and save 60 bucks?
7200RPM 250gb


250GB is not much... You're gonna run out of space fairly quickly
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June 30, 2014 12:20:18 PM

Francisco Costa said:
evan5021 said:
Can I use my old hard drive (6 years old) and save 60 bucks?
7200RPM 250gb


250GB is not much... You're gonna run out of space fairly quickly


Will it still connect to the motherboard or have the cables stayed the same.
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June 30, 2014 12:43:49 PM

Iron124 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


The B85 chipset is a low-cost business chipset, so no overclocking.


That is incorrect.


So it is overclockable?
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June 30, 2014 12:50:56 PM

Iron124 said:
evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


Indeed, in fact, I like MSI because it has "OC GENIE" which will automatically detect and overclock your system to the optimal setting. If you want to manually crank up your CPU and voltage, it allows that as well.


Is it verified by Intel?
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June 30, 2014 12:51:00 PM

evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


The B85 chipset is a low-cost business chipset, so no overclocking.


That is incorrect.


So it is overclockable?


Yes, yes it is. That Motherboard I listed includes MSI's OC Genie option for easy overclocking. Don't let others tell you otherwise, check the documentation: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 30, 2014 12:54:12 PM

Quote:


Is it verified by Intel?


No overclocking is verified by Intel, it says right in their EULA that any damage caused by overclocking they are not responsible for, and motherboards with Overclocking options have a similar statement. That processor was designed to run at its base frequency and no higher, any higher than that and you do risk damage (although at lower frequencies, very little risk.)
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June 30, 2014 2:55:11 PM

Iron124 said:
evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Andrew Buck said:
evan5021 said:
Iron124 said:
Quote:

Hm, well I kind of want to stick with an intel cpu because... Well I'm not sure. All my other computer builds and what not are AMD. I think that moving to Intel to try their flagship of the Pentiums.


You can give the pentium a try, no harm in that, but one thing AMD has managed to stay ahead of Intel on is absolute raw performance as far as editing and rendering goes. A Quad Core AMD will still serve you better than a Dual Core Pentium, even while being overclocked. The Pentium shows a slight edge over comparable AMD CPUs in other things such as certain gaming tasks and general usage.

For $500, this would serve you beautifully, even some decent gaming could be a possibility.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: VisionTek 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


I assume the b85 allows overclocking


The B85 chipset is a low-cost business chipset, so no overclocking.


That is incorrect.


So it is overclockable?


Yes, yes it is. That Motherboard I listed includes MSI's OC Genie option for easy overclocking. Don't let others tell you otherwise, check the documentation: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


As I said, they did enable it, but this happened: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/07/25/intel-...
You cannot overclock on non-Z boards.
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June 30, 2014 3:51:14 PM

I can confirm that B boards do not allow overclocking. As I experienced this first hand. This was my old motherboard:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It has OC genie on it as well. But even with an overclockable CPU, regardless of them slapping "overclock this, overclock that" all over the packaging and website, no overclocking. It's practically false advertising. I have since gotten a Z motherboard, which does overclock. So don't get a B85 board, I think you will regret it. Especially with that awesome CPU, you'll want all the potential you can get.
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June 30, 2014 3:54:02 PM

Yes. Ratchet knows what's up. B85 boards do not allow overclocking, even though it says that MSI can OC your CPU. It can't. Microcode won't allow it. Iron, please look it up and you will see. We even have somebody that had a B-series board. First result was the Intel blocking B-series overclocking when I typed "B85 overclocking". http://lmgtfy.com/?q=B85+overclocking

Edit: ASUS somehow got B85 boards unlocked, but I would go with a Z97 board in case, because it could be disabled at any time. I literally had somebody today saying how their Haswell Refresh chip wouldn't work with the Asus B85 board, so don't expect the Pentium to.
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June 30, 2014 4:32:30 PM

Andrew Buck said:
Yes. Ratchet knows what's up. B85 boards do not allow overclocking, even though it says that MSI can OC your CPU. It can't. Microcode won't allow it. Iron, please look it up and you will see. We even have somebody that had a B-series board. First result was the Intel blocking B-series overclocking when I typed "B85 overclocking". http://lmgtfy.com/?q=B85+overclocking

Edit: ASUS somehow got B85 boards unlocked, but I would go with a Z97 board in case, because it could be disabled at any time. I literally had somebody today saying how their Haswell Refresh chip wouldn't work with the Asus B85 board, so don't expect the Pentium to.


I read that a simple BIOS update was all that was required to "break" Intel's lock on overclocking on non Z motherboards, I've even seen H81 chipsets that claim they are capable of overclocking, of course, against Intel's wishes. But if I had to choose, and pay 2x more for something that was actually unnecessary, all it is is Intel trying to artificially inflate prices and requirements, no thanks.


Reviews on various websites confirm this.
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June 30, 2014 4:39:16 PM

Iron124 said:
Andrew Buck said:
Yes. Ratchet knows what's up. B85 boards do not allow overclocking, even though it says that MSI can OC your CPU. It can't. Microcode won't allow it. Iron, please look it up and you will see. We even have somebody that had a B-series board. First result was the Intel blocking B-series overclocking when I typed "B85 overclocking". http://lmgtfy.com/?q=B85+overclocking

Edit: ASUS somehow got B85 boards unlocked, but I would go with a Z97 board in case, because it could be disabled at any time. I literally had somebody today saying how their Haswell Refresh chip wouldn't work with the Asus B85 board, so don't expect the Pentium to.


I read that a simple BIOS update was all that was required to "break" Intel's lock on overclocking on non Z motherboards, I've even seen H81 chipsets that claim they are capable of overclocking, of course, against Intel's wishes. But if I had to choose, and pay 2x more for something that was actually unnecessary, all it is is Intel trying to artificially inflate prices and requirements, no thanks.


Reviews on various websites confirm this.


Yes, but B85 and B81 are not compatible with Broadwell. If an upgrade is wanted, an upgrade can't be given without another motherboard. It is better to stick with Z97, because it is MEANT for overclocking and will generally be more reliable. Not sure Intel is very happy with ASUS about this.
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June 30, 2014 4:47:27 PM

Andrew Buck said:
Iron124 said:
Andrew Buck said:
Yes. Ratchet knows what's up. B85 boards do not allow overclocking, even though it says that MSI can OC your CPU. It can't. Microcode won't allow it. Iron, please look it up and you will see. We even have somebody that had a B-series board. First result was the Intel blocking B-series overclocking when I typed "B85 overclocking". http://lmgtfy.com/?q=B85+overclocking

Edit: ASUS somehow got B85 boards unlocked, but I would go with a Z97 board in case, because it could be disabled at any time. I literally had somebody today saying how their Haswell Refresh chip wouldn't work with the Asus B85 board, so don't expect the Pentium to.


I read that a simple BIOS update was all that was required to "break" Intel's lock on overclocking on non Z motherboards, I've even seen H81 chipsets that claim they are capable of overclocking, of course, against Intel's wishes. But if I had to choose, and pay 2x more for something that was actually unnecessary, all it is is Intel trying to artificially inflate prices and requirements, no thanks.


Reviews on various websites confirm this.


Yes, but B85 and B81 are not compatible with Broadwell. If an upgrade is wanted, an upgrade can't be given without another motherboard. It is better to stick with Z97, because it is MEANT for overclocking and will generally be more reliable. Not sure Intel is very happy with ASUS about this.


Intel is definitely pissed, they're all about maximizing profit margin, so much so that they consider "unlocking" a processor to be a huge deal and expect you to pay out a ton for it.

It's probably is best to get a Z97 in the end I suppose, even though The B series theoretically works, but you never know when Intel's devious nature will nullify your overclock, and then you'd have to wait for MSI to fire back with another breaking update...

I'm building an AMD rig for a reason. Intel may win in benchmarks, but absolutely nothing else.
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June 30, 2014 4:49:41 PM

Iron124 said:
Andrew Buck said:
Iron124 said:
Andrew Buck said:
Yes. Ratchet knows what's up. B85 boards do not allow overclocking, even though it says that MSI can OC your CPU. It can't. Microcode won't allow it. Iron, please look it up and you will see. We even have somebody that had a B-series board. First result was the Intel blocking B-series overclocking when I typed "B85 overclocking". http://lmgtfy.com/?q=B85+overclocking

Edit: ASUS somehow got B85 boards unlocked, but I would go with a Z97 board in case, because it could be disabled at any time. I literally had somebody today saying how their Haswell Refresh chip wouldn't work with the Asus B85 board, so don't expect the Pentium to.


I read that a simple BIOS update was all that was required to "break" Intel's lock on overclocking on non Z motherboards, I've even seen H81 chipsets that claim they are capable of overclocking, of course, against Intel's wishes. But if I had to choose, and pay 2x more for something that was actually unnecessary, all it is is Intel trying to artificially inflate prices and requirements, no thanks.


Reviews on various websites confirm this.


Yes, but B85 and B81 are not compatible with Broadwell. If an upgrade is wanted, an upgrade can't be given without another motherboard. It is better to stick with Z97, because it is MEANT for overclocking and will generally be more reliable. Not sure Intel is very happy with ASUS about this.


Intel is definitely pissed, they're all about maximizing profit margin, so much so that they consider "unlocking" a processor to be a huge deal and expect you to pay out a ton for it.

It's probably is best to get a Z97 in the end I suppose, even though The B series theoretically works, but you never know when Intel's devious nature will nullify your overclock, and then you'd have to wait for MSI to fire back with another breaking update...

I'm building an AMD rig for a reason. Intel may win in benchmarks, but absolutely nothing else.


Not really. My 4770k shows much better performance in compression and BF4 than my 8320 overclocked to 4.8 GHz did... at 4 GHz.
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