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titanHUNTER :
The Intel will NOT outperform the 8350 in many games. The GPU will determine the difference in the gaming experience. Some games are better optimized for Intel chips (Skyrim), while others for AMD (Battlefield).
For the record, your CPU will USE ALL CORES as you game and multi-task. BF3 uses 6 of my 8 cores, leaving my CPU ample resources to run other programs, even other games! I had two games running concurrently the other day and did not even realize it. Many people who do not have experience with 6/8 core processors generalize and repeat what others say or what they read. With an 8 core, your CPU will use spread/share the workload over multiple cores. So instead of 3 cores running at 100%, you will have 6 cores running at 60%. When I had my 4 core, BF3 used all cores and utilized around 95% of my entire CPU. With my FX-8350, the BF3 decreased to around 40% of entire CPU (leaving ample room for multi-tasking or performing other tasks).
He is right about cooling the 9370 though. However, I have read reviews where users were able to keep it under 50 with the CM Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212. At the same time, I have read of some who have temps with their 8350 in the 50's with water cooling. Mine does not past 44 while running Prime 95 with the Evo!
I still would recommend the i5 for you just because this is your first build and the 9370 is not for the faint of heart!
Happy Gaming!
Your initial statement overruled itself. It will not outperform AMD, but then you say it outperforms AMD? :lol: Have a look at some game benchmarks, there are certainly differences.
If an application is not coded to use all of the available cores, it will not use them. If it's coded well it will spread the load equally - in many instances this is not the case. Supposed "multithreaded" games often rely heavily on main threads and subthreads, and the CPU stress is not spread equally across each core. Some are left with less stressing smaller instructions, and others with the brunt of the work. Yes I've had personal experience with an 8320 @ 4.5 GHz. Leaving 2 games running by accident is not an effective measure.
My old 8320 @ 4.5 with a 212 EVO would go above the safe temp threshold. Take that as you will. I would absolutely expect a need for something like a Noctua NH-D14 with the 9370.
I refuted your claim that it will outperform in "many" games. Then I listed games where each CPU was strong. Please use your single-core prowess and read it again. LOL
Regarding application coding, what applications/programs are you referring that only use only one core? Do you write/develop applications? Do you even measure your CPU usage? Has there ever been a time while gaming or any other program running where only 1 core was utilized in your task manager?
Please provide this magical list of only single core applications! LOL That is such a scapegoat that people always use it against AMD, but never provide apps that use only one core. Maybe 10 years ago most apps used a single core! LOL Back when the Pentium reigned king! LMAO
Regarding gaming benchmarks, i benchmark myself. Most of the online benchmarks in gaming are for 90 seconds! I conduct 5 to 10 minute benchmarks and if you benchmark three different times, you will get three different averages, min and max FPS! You would have to conduct multiple samples, then use ANOVA to get real performance metrics regarding FPS. Not to mention the map of the game, loading sequences, etc.
So when I read these "objective benchmarks" where somehow the i7-3770k is somehow always just 3 to 5 fps faster than the FX-8350, i just smh.
And playing two games in windowed mode is a REAL LIFE measure of performance. My CPU was able to handle the load without so much as slowing down. Try doing that with a dual core i3 and tell me how it works out.
And I believe you with your temps of the 8320. You were at the max of overclocking that chip. So the temps would naturally rise.
In any rate, you will not notice the difference with either chip. After all I stated, for this guy who does not have a preference or motherboard, I would recommend that he go with the i5. He can always upgrade or build an AMD machine down the line if he likes.
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