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July 1, 2014 6:51:49 AM

I need help with a gaming PC build.


Approximate Purchase Date:
In the next month or so.

Budget Range:
750-1000$

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Gaming, Streaming and Recording, Programming, 3d modelling/rendering, video and photo editing, web browsing

Parts Not Required:
Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, Speakers, Case

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
kuantokusta.com (you can check the prices there) (no problem ordering from Amazon.co.uk)

Country:
Portugal, EU

Parts Preferences:
Intel, R9 290x(this is a must because its so cheap atm (500$))

Overclocking:
Definetly yes, maybe even extreme although no sub-zero cooling(Maybe custom water-loop later)

SLI or Crossfire:
Later

Additional Comments:
I would like a 500gb Samsung 840 EVO, but a 250 is also good. If you go for the 500GB dont include a storage drive if it gets too expensive. If the build is with the 250gb include a 2TB+ HDD. I intend to keep multiple OSes (probably 3 or 4) in the SSD, some games and some programs. I would like 16Gb of ram, but 8 is ok too. I do not need an OS.

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July 1, 2014 7:00:52 AM

You could find GTX 780s on Amazon that are cheaper than the R9 290X. I could guarantee that you would get better performance with the 780.
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July 1, 2014 7:03:32 AM

First off, thank you for actually posting that info, many people don't do it :) 

That said, I do see some problems with what you want. The biggest one is the 290x, there is no way you will be getting that in a $1000 budget. It's half your budget and you would need an i5-4670k to handle it and that is $230. So your are at 75% of your budget with only the GPU and CPU :p 

I know I've seen many i5-4670k and r9 280x builds posted lately. I don't think you could get a 256GB samsung EVO in this budget, maybe a mx100 which is a 2nd best. (only $110 to).

Edit: Read it as $1000, not 1000$. Though because UK prices are so high, I think you still won't be able to get the r9 290x.
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July 1, 2014 7:28:27 AM

jaraldo said:
First off, thank you for actually posting that info, many people don't do it :) 

That said, I do see some problems with what you want. The biggest one is the 290x, there is no way you will be getting that in a $1000 budget. It's half your budget and you would need an i5-4670k to handle it and that is $230. So your are at 75% of your budget with only the GPU and CPU :p 

I know I've seen many i5-4670k and r9 280x builds posted lately. I don't think you could get a 256GB samsung EVO in this budget, maybe a mx100 which is a 2nd best. (only $110 to).

Edit: Read it as $1000, not 1000$. Though because UK prices are so high, I think you still won't be able to get the r9 290x.


I want a card that could handle most games at max setting, 1080p. I said the EVO because that's the chepest good one I knew. If there's a quality one for cheaper with good space im good. I am probably going to upgrade so I need some headroom. Also, what's the diference between $1000 and 1000$? Thank you for the fast response. Also I would like to keep my motherboard and for it to have nice features like overclocking and such. I was thinking about a Asus Maximus VII Hero, because I wouldn't have to spend more money on other things (outside the build) so I may have a higher budget. A PSU with good efficiency is a plus :D 
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July 1, 2014 8:28:10 AM

Ok, so just a few things:

-A 750ti can play all new games on ultra with 30+ fps, so any card above $150 can max out games at full settings with 50 to 60+ FPS. You don't need a $500 graphics card for this :p 

-The samsung is the best budget one available, true. If this is your first SSD though, you won't likely notice the difference between the mx100 and EVO 840. You can have way more room going with the mx100 which I think is better.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8066/crucial-mx100-256gb-...

-If you are going to upgrade, then you would forsure need to take some money out of the $500 graphics card and use about $150-200 to be upgradable. By upgradable do you mean doing dual graphics cards? Just need to be clear what you mean.

- Well I didn't notice you were in europe, so I thought US $1000. 1000$ euro or GBP is much different. The pricing in europe doesn't match the conversion rate to US either. Prices in europe tend to be higher in general.

-hehe, that motherboard you want..I know you like it, but it's also very very expensive. 143 GBP. I'm sure there is a better one for less, but you might be able to keep that in the budget.

So one thing I need to know: What is the budget in GBP (UK currency) and what is it in Porteguese Escudo.
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July 1, 2014 8:33:07 AM

jaraldo said:
Ok, so just a few things:

-A 750ti can play all new games on ultra with 30+ fps, so any card above $150 can max out games at full settings with 50 to 60+ FPS. You don't need a $500 graphics card for this :p 

-The samsung is the best budget one available, true. If this is your first SSD though, you won't likely notice the difference between the mx100 and EVO 840. You can have way more room going with the mx100 which I think is better.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8066/crucial-mx100-256gb-...

-If you are going to upgrade, then you would forsure need to take some money out of the $500 graphics card and use about $150-200 to be upgradable. By upgradable do you mean doing dual graphics cards? Just need to be clear what you mean.

- Well I didn't notice you were in europe, so I thought US $1000. 1000$ euro or GBP is much different. The pricing in europe doesn't match the conversion rate to US either. Prices in europe tend to be higher in general.

-hehe, that motherboard you want..I know you like it, but it's also very very expensive. 143 GBP. I'm sure there is a better one for less, but you might be able to keep that in the budget.

So one thing I need to know: What is the budget in GBP (UK currency) and what is it in Porteguese Escudo.


First of all, Its portuguese Euro. Escudos are gone since 2000:D  Second of all, my budget is about 800€. Third by upgradeable I mean SLI/CF, swapping out parts (like GC, CPU, adding/switching RAM, etc).
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July 1, 2014 8:43:13 AM

Pff, stupid google! :lol:  Good to know :p 

Ok, well here is just an example build. I tried to keep as many things as possible. I also don't know if you need an operating system, but I added it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£155.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.25 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£143.94 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.18 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card (£287.15 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£34.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£76.50 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£35.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £943.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

So it's a bit over right now, but that is fixable. I can use that Portuguese site if that is better prices. I'm not sure what all the shipping cost would be from the UK.
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July 1, 2014 9:16:45 AM

jaraldo said:
Pff, stupid google! :lol:  Good to know :p 

Ok, well here is just an example build. I tried to keep as many things as possible. I also don't know if you need an operating system, but I added it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£155.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.25 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£143.94 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.18 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card (£287.15 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£34.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£76.50 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£35.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £943.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

So it's a bit over right now, but that is fixable. I can use that Portuguese site if that is better prices. I'm not sure what all the shipping cost would be from the UK.


:D  I wrote in the OP that I didnt need either OS or Case. I will make some changes to that, maybe change things up a little. Anyway tnks so much :D  Also, r9 290 CF or another card?
Or I can keep the card and change the board to a Maximus VII :D 
Also (outside budget) what is a good cheap mechanical keyboard?
The portuguese site is just for prices. I will be buying at a local store.

UPDATE: I left the graphics card alone, upgraded to a i7-4970k and a Asus maximus VII Hero. I may choose a diferent CPU cooler, do you know any good ones?

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July 1, 2014 10:00:43 AM

Haha, damn, having a bad reading day xD

Well, if you are gonna try for insane overclocks eventually, then yeah I'd keep the motherboard and change the CPU cooler. A Noctua NH-D14 or a Corsair h100i would be the best options. (60+ euros)

What case do you have? Some CPU coolers are pretty big.

This is an alright entry level mech keyboard
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/cm-keyboard-quickfire-tk...
Comes in red switches to.

This is another one, but I don't know much about the brand because they aren't big in north america.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0038KLIPA/?tag=pcp0f-21
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July 1, 2014 10:35:48 AM

jaraldo said:
Haha, damn, having a bad reading day xD

Well, if you are gonna try for insane overclocks eventually, then yeah I'd keep the motherboard and change the CPU cooler. A Noctua NH-D14 or a Corsair h100i would be the best options. (60+ euros)

What case do you have? Some CPU coolers are pretty big.

This is an alright entry level mech keyboard
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/cm-keyboard-quickfire-tk...
Comes in red switches to.

This is another one, but I don't know much about the brand because they aren't big in north america.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0038KLIPA/?tag=pcp0f-21


1 thing: Portugal is hot. Sometimes, hot as fuck. Here, during the summer it can reach 35/40º C but normally its at 28-32ºC which is about 82-90º F. So I would like a really good cooler. I have heard that AIO WaterCoolers dont really offer that much performance for the money. I would like a sub 100$ Cooler that can overclock this CPU to 5Ghz as it has been stated by intel. I might upgrade the cooling to a Custom Watercooling Loop for the CPU, GPU and maybe RAM.

I dont really remember what case I have but I know it aint THAT small. Let's assume mid size, because it can only be bigger than that. I can work out any problems with clearance though. (probably)

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July 1, 2014 10:45:42 AM

Those ones I've listed are very good, 5.0 is reachable with them. Water cooling is indeed more of a hobby than required. Totally up to you whether you want to or not.

Adding in 3-4 case fans or even some more heatsinks would be better than watercooling in my opinion; if you consider the risks.
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July 1, 2014 11:02:44 AM

jaraldo said:
Those ones I've listed are very good, 5.0 is reachable with them. Water cooling is indeed more of a hobby than required. Totally up to you whether you want to or not.

Adding in 3-4 case fans or even some more heatsinks would be better than watercooling in my opinion; if you consider the risks.


I will probably do watercooling later, but for now I would prefer AIO or Air cooling (Probably AIO as Portugal is very hot). I want a good cooling solution that can work for any CPU upgrades. Also, I changed the card to a r9 290 Sapphire Vapor-x as I dont mind spending a bit more for more features. I will be the price of the cooler above my budget but it probably wont be a problem.
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July 1, 2014 11:19:01 AM

Case fans will fit in any case and the cpu cooler on any CPU, while water cooling takes up quite a bit of room. (if that's what you mean by upgrade)

Something to consider since there is a GTX 780 in the same price as the vapor-x.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2051984/asus-gtx...

I don't usually deal with these kind of high quality cards, so you may have to do some research on it. I do see the r9 280(x)/290(x)'s getting some criticism for noise/heat levels though.
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July 2, 2014 9:39:53 AM

jaraldo said:
Case fans will fit in any case and the cpu cooler on any CPU, while water cooling takes up quite a bit of room. (if that's what you mean by upgrade)

Something to consider since there is a GTX 780 in the same price as the vapor-x.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2051984/asus-gtx...

I don't usually deal with these kind of high quality cards, so you may have to do some research on it. I do see the r9 280(x)/290(x)'s getting some criticism for noise/heat levels though.


My budget (for reasons that I will not state here because it doesnt matter) may go to 1250$ so I may replace the r9 290 with a 290x maybe a really high quality one. Lets see. By upgrading I mean new stuff being put in.

UPDATE: Been doin' some research and I would LOVE to have a R9 290x Toxic. I will not game CURRENTLY at 4k but I may use downscaling (essencially rendering at a higher res and shrinking it for higher quality - normally used when games do not support AA or in conjunction with AA). Still that's going to be ex... pen... sive... Anyway I might move some stuff around to get it in. Also thank you for all you help so far. For the case I'm thinking of a negative pressure config as it has the best temps. What are the best case fans? 80 100 120 200mm
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July 2, 2014 12:30:41 PM

Well if you are wanting to overclock heavy and crossfire two r9 290x later, you'd need a 850w-1000w PSU at least.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-...
Any z97 board over $100 with have crossfire. So I think that covers you for upgrade paths.

You should get 16gb to since you'll be video editing stuff. If you can fit the i7 in that would be a good move to.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£233.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£80.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£160.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£111.08 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card (£389.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£120.50 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £1224.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I know you have your own build in mind, but it's looking similar to this?

-The i7 will help you more with multimedia stuff as well as overclocking higher than the i5 will.
-Got 2x8gb of ram because I'm guessing you might run into some more $ sometime this year and want to add in another 16gb. If not, 2x4 is fine for now.
-I just picked the cheapest gold 1000w available. It's EVGA so it'll be good; any powersupply over 100$ should be.
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/power-supplies/4004...

You could put the last 25$ into upgrading the r9 290x, though I don't know if it will get you more quality or not. You could also get some case fans and thermal compound, but those can be added on later also.
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July 2, 2014 12:33:58 PM

Just saw your edit :p 

I've heard about Toxic cards being able to compete with the GPUs a tier above them, so it's a good choice I think. (still might not be able to compete with the r9 295x2 though, but better than other r9 290x's forsure)

For case fans, the best would be noctua as they are quietest but still have some nice airflow; that's what I go with anyways.
Something like this
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nff12pw...

Edit: Getting the vapor-x on the build I showed will put it at 1275$. As you said, things can be moved around :) 
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July 2, 2014 12:53:55 PM

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Just saw your edit :p 

I've heard about Toxic cards being able to compete with the GPUs a tier above them, so it's a good choice I think. (still might not be able to compete with the r9 295x2 though, but better than other r9 290x's forsure)

For case fans, the best would be noctua as they are quietest but still have some nice airflow; that's what I go with anyways.
Something like this
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nff12pw...

Edit: Getting the vapor-x on the build I showed will put it at 1275$. As you said, things can be moved around :) 


The toxic will cost allot. VaporX is only 4g atleast the pcpartpicker version. The other one is listed at overclockers.co.uk at 600£ so its a big step up but its probably going to come down as is the toxic (both of them have 8gb of VRAM). I may be able to get a free HDD so I might not need that. Also, I am considering multi-boot (like 4OSes in 1 machine (probably going to be SteamOS, Windows, Mac and Linux (I know that SteamOS is linux but I want actual linux, not gaming linux)) so I may need a bigger SSD... Although 512 or 1TB ssds are expensive. Any tips? I am fully open to any sugestions. Also I heard that Noctua has fans with active noise cancelling. Might be interesting. Also, a Watercooling loop for some high overclock with this CPU and GPU would cost about? So sorry to bother you so much but as this is my first build (and last from scratch hopefully) I want everything to be as good as I can get it.
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July 2, 2014 1:24:04 PM

No worries, I remember my first build, took me about 3 weeks to finalize things lol

I'm not sure on water cooling prices as I've never done it. Since it's more of a hobby/enthuasist thing, I would expect it to be very expensive. 100-200$?

Well I've done dual boot before but never 4 OS! xD Not sure if they're be some conflicts or what. I'm guessing since you can dual boot windows/mac together and since linux usually is a "friendly" add-on OS, it's doable.
What are you using mac/linux for? just curious

Well 600$ for a toxic, idk lol. You have any benchmarks that it's 30-40% better than any other r9 290x's? If it's not, no point getting it. Any r9 290x is going to be more than amazing for gaming. You have to remember to, if it's ever not enough you buy a 2nd one and crossfire.

I'd personally rather stay on budget and have a nice upgradeable PC than keep going over budget. Remember, you want to crossfire after all :) 
2 "normal" r9 290x's = 750-800$ , if a toxic is 600$ there is no way it can compete with crossfire price/performance wise.

If you wanted the toxic, but you couldn't raise your budget, it would mean:

-and i5 instead of an i7
-a cheaper mobo
-2x4gb ram
-and MAYBE a 120gb ssd.

So as I said, I'd just forget about the toxic unless you can find some benchmarks that make it worth the price.

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July 3, 2014 4:46:16 AM

jaraldo said:
No worries, I remember my first build, took me about 3 weeks to finalize things lol

I'm not sure on water cooling prices as I've never done it. Since it's more of a hobby/enthuasist thing, I would expect it to be very expensive. 100-200$?

Well I've done dual boot before but never 4 OS! xD Not sure if they're be some conflicts or what. I'm guessing since you can dual boot windows/mac together and since linux usually is a "friendly" add-on OS, it's doable.
What are you using mac/linux for? just curious

Well 600$ for a toxic, idk lol. You have any benchmarks that it's 30-40% better than any other r9 290x's? If it's not, no point getting it. Any r9 290x is going to be more than amazing for gaming. You have to remember to, if it's ever not enough you buy a 2nd one and crossfire.

I'd personally rather stay on budget and have a nice upgradeable PC than keep going over budget. Remember, you want to crossfire after all :) 
2 "normal" r9 290x's = 750-800$ , if a toxic is 600$ there is no way it can compete with crossfire price/performance wise.

If you wanted the toxic, but you couldn't raise your budget, it would mean:

-and i5 instead of an i7
-a cheaper mobo
-2x4gb ram
-and MAYBE a 120gb ssd.

So as I said, I'd just forget about the toxic unless you can find some benchmarks that make it worth the price.



The toxic isnt out yet. The price will probably come down but I dunno. I feel like 8gb of VRam will be better for CF in the future as VRAM doesnt stack in CF. Also, 2 cards have problems and I'd rather buy 1 card now. Also, I want to max out EVERYTHING in the next console "loop". If that means spending 100€ more then I'm fine with it. But. If the toxic is not worth the price I will buy another one. If I dont buy the toxic which one should I buy?
But also, the toxic looks... AMAZING. It... just... looks... sooo... fucking... good... I dont remember if the case I have has a window but I'll make one MYSELF if that is what it takes to show this AMAZING Card. Heck, if I watercool it I'll feel bad to remove the AWESOME cooler. (Check this video out : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml-Sr3DPWsI)

Now to answer your question: I will use Linux to code/pentest (although mostly training), mac for photo editing/3d stuff (still unsure if I install Mac but I'll decide later), SteamOS for Games as Linux (and therefore SteamOS) uses Ram much more efficiently (wastes less) than windows. The reason Ill install both linux and SteamOS is that SteamOS probably has better driver support.
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July 3, 2014 10:26:52 AM

I know 2 cards can have potential problems, but I'm wondering why you are considering crossfire if you knew this.

If the toxic is that brand new of a card, it's going to be insanely overpriced at first. Without any benchmarks on it, I'd forget about it.

Here's some small reviews of it without benchs and I tend to agree. 8gb of VRam is huge overkill now and it's more of a marketing stunt. Unless you are going to be playing on 3 monitors now, I don't see a point getting it. (They didn't even change the cooling, it's the same as the vapor-x)

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/8gb_sapphire_radeon_r9...
http://videocardz.com/49911/sapphire-shows-radeon-r9-29...

It's like they say in the comments, by the time you actually will need 8gb of vram, this card will be a dinosaur :p 

I've heard the Asus Direct CUII are the quietest, but not sure if it holds up. You can check out some stuff here
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290-and-2...

As for OS, I tried looking up multi-boots and even "3 operating system" boot and couldn't find anything on it :p 
I still have a feeling there shouldn't be much of an issue especially for how easy linux is to install along side other operating systems.
Though you could always take a look at a VM for some of what you are doing
http://lifehacker.com/5901055/should-i-run-a-second-ope...
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July 4, 2014 4:28:48 AM

jaraldo said:
I know 2 cards can have potential problems, but I'm wondering why you are considering crossfire if you knew this.

If the toxic is that brand new of a card, it's going to be insanely overpriced at first. Without any benchmarks on it, I'd forget about it.

Here's some small reviews of it without benchs and I tend to agree. 8gb of VRam is huge overkill now and it's more of a marketing stunt. Unless you are going to be playing on 3 monitors now, I don't see a point getting it. (They didn't even change the cooling, it's the same as the vapor-x)

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/8gb_sapphire_radeon_r9...
http://videocardz.com/49911/sapphire-shows-radeon-r9-29...

It's like they say in the comments, by the time you actually will need 8gb of vram, this card will be a dinosaur :p 

I've heard the Asus Direct CUII are the quietest, but not sure if it holds up. You can check out some stuff here
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290-and-2...

As for OS, I tried looking up multi-boots and even "3 operating system" boot and couldn't find anything on it :p 
I still have a feeling there shouldn't be much of an issue especially for how easy linux is to install along side other operating systems.
Though you could always take a look at a VM for some of what you are doing
http://lifehacker.com/5901055/should-i-run-a-second-ope...


I am thinking of installing SteamOS and Windows dual-boot and then the rest install on a VM inside a Hyper-V OS. Anyway. I am probably not going to get the toxic, but if it's at the same price than the rest, or a little bit more expensive then why not? Anyway, I gotta look into the various graphics cards. And about crossfire I was saying that I prefer to use a powerful graphics card first, crossfire later, so I can disable one when its needed and still have good performance. What I would LOVE though is having an 8core 16 threads Haswell-e but that's obviously out of question because of the costs. :( :( :(  IF it was possible, even if it meant downgrading the card to a r9 290 I wouldn't mind the graphics downgrade as it would probably be easier to upgrade a GPU than a CPU and mobo.
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July 4, 2014 8:59:18 AM

Yup I agree about the toxic, but wait for a price first. There is a big difference between $380 and $600; it is huge! :p 

Taking this into consideration
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but it will be a very limited edition with only a handful of cards lifted from the production run able to run stable at the clock speeds (to be confirmed). Retail price is expected to reflect the high premium from such a limited edition production run.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/eric-jo...

This to me is 99% chance it's going to be a marketing trick.

And about the i7, is the price really a lot more at your local store?
The link I posted before had a 1225$ build and we can cut that down a bit still.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/rmQ84D
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July 4, 2014 9:10:27 AM

jaraldo said:
Yup I agree about the toxic, but wait for a price first. There is a big difference between $380 and $600; it is huge! :p 

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but it will be a very limited edition with only a handful of cards lifted from the production run able to run stable at the clock speeds (to be confirmed). Retail price is expected to reflect the high premium from such a limited edition production run.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/eric-jo...

This to me is 99% chance it's going to be a marketing trick.

And about the i7, is the price really a lot more at your local store?
The link I posted before had a 1225$ build and we can cut that down a bit still.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/rmQ84D


I was talking about a wish of mine to have a X99 lga 2011-3 intel core i7-5960x which will cost 1000$/€/£ + the mobo which will probably cost around 200-300-400$ pr 150-225-300£/€. and ddr4 ofc :D  Anyway, I'm probably not going to get a toxic :D  It would drag down the other parts allot. I am going with a 250gb ssd but I'm waiting for the new lineup. Im probably only getting an extreme processor when Skylake-e is here. Cool name too :D  it will probably be the intel core i7(or something)-7960x... Anyway tnks for the help so far. Im only giving my build some more adjustements but I want it to be as good as I can get for that money. Also, is there any upcoming hardware releases that I should wait for? I would want it before the end of July so I can enjoy my PC during vacation.
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July 4, 2014 9:41:38 AM

omg @ the cpu lol, you really do like to dream! It's cool :D 

Well, I'm sure there is new stuff coming out, but the thing is everything new that comes out is overpriced and doesn't perform that much better than the previous generation. Looking at intel CPUs, usually new ones are only 6-10% faster.

DDR4 is coming out in September, but that's going to be a huge joke. It's probably going to need a new mobo to use, super overpriced, and not much better than DDR3. Yet, you see fans just spamming that on the forums..."wait for September to build your PC!"

This build is going to last you 7-10 years (when you add in the crossfire) if you look after it well; I know you will ;) 
Buy as soon as you can and enjoy! :p 
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July 7, 2014 9:11:23 AM

jaraldo said:
omg @ the cpu lol, you really do like to dream! It's cool :D 

Well, I'm sure there is new stuff coming out, but the thing is everything new that comes out is overpriced and doesn't perform that much better than the previous generation. Looking at intel CPUs, usually new ones are only 6-10% faster.

DDR4 is coming out in September, but that's going to be a huge joke. It's probably going to need a new mobo to use, super overpriced, and not much better than DDR3. Yet, you see fans just spamming that on the forums..."wait for September to build your PC!"

This build is going to last you 7-10 years (when you add in the crossfire) if you look after it well; I know you will ;) 
Buy as soon as you can and enjoy! :p 


Tnks :D  Ill probably go for a i7-4790k(heard that they dont overclock as good as intel said, any info? Also, still need a cooler, will do some research but what do you think(for a hot country) AIO water or air? Ill probably end up doing a DIY loop anyways so I need a short term solution. Less than 60€ pls), a maximus VII hero, r9 290x (some version, any recommends?), 16gb of TridentX 2400mhz Ram, a 840 evo 250/500gb, a good PSU and some HDD. Also, thank you so much for your help and I'll post my future work with this pc or keep you posted on how it works :D  Also, I need case fans, any recommendations?
PS: Thank you for helping me and not giving up :D 
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July 7, 2014 10:47:29 AM

About your cooler, I've already recommended the h100i (maybe an h80i would do) and the NH-D14 a few times now :p 
I think both are close to 60 euros.

Here's some benchmarks for AIO coolers.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7738/closed-loop-aio-liqu...

Looking at prices, probably the MSI r9 290x G4, but you should probably do some research on which is best.

You could get a 1-2 noctua case fans if you want, certainly would help your air flow.

hehe, no problem :) 




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July 7, 2014 11:56:57 AM

jaraldo said:
About your cooler, I've already recommended the h100i (maybe an h80i would do) and the NH-D14 a few times now :p 
I think both are close to 60 euros.

Here's some benchmarks for AIO coolers.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7738/closed-loop-aio-liqu...

Looking at prices, probably the MSI r9 290x G4, but you should probably do some research on which is best.

You could get a 1-2 noctua case fans if you want, certainly would help your air flow.

hehe, no problem :) 



I did some research and looked at benchmarks for overclocking the Direct CUII asus only, because its the only one that there is a Max overclock test. It can reach 1125mhz (confirmed, sapphire card does WAYYY better at 1180mhz and 10% memory overclock with 1.2v :D  no purchase for asus) with fans all the way up allot of noise and 1.4v. without overvolting its 1080 and thats what the vapor x and msi lightning do at stock and probably max. I am interested in overclocking myself so I need a really good cooler, and I would like a custom PCB so it can overclock better. I will check out the benches and get back to you. I dont think I can make it to 5Ghz though. Most ppl get 4.7ghz max. Any thoughts?
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