Lightest cheapest gaming mouse (thread 2014-7)
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nadfar
July 1, 2014 7:15:15 AM
What is the lightest gaming (non-mobile microscopic) mouse known to man????
Lighter than air, I don't care!
Preferably with 5-6 buttons (it's nice to reload your rifle or jump using a mouse button, cause there are not enough comfortable keys left near the WASD area, in new games).
!!! ( and smooth moving scroll button! Boy I hate the ones that do clicks when you scroll...)
And of course, cheap as possible. Or at least, let's start from the cheapest, K?
(Really? 100$ for a mouse? The marketing brain wash army has reached that far??)
One last thing: Please, only from your own experience. Don't want to hear reading from some webpage. You can quote weight parameters, but only if you have experience with that specific mouse, and felt it's weight by yourself, and played with it a few hours in some FPS.
Thank ya all
Lighter than air, I don't care!
Preferably with 5-6 buttons (it's nice to reload your rifle or jump using a mouse button, cause there are not enough comfortable keys left near the WASD area, in new games).
!!! ( and smooth moving scroll button! Boy I hate the ones that do clicks when you scroll...)
And of course, cheap as possible. Or at least, let's start from the cheapest, K?
(Really? 100$ for a mouse? The marketing brain wash army has reached that far??)
One last thing: Please, only from your own experience. Don't want to hear reading from some webpage. You can quote weight parameters, but only if you have experience with that specific mouse, and felt it's weight by yourself, and played with it a few hours in some FPS.
Thank ya all
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why is weight such an issue?
while i understand eliminating heavy or weighted mice from the playing field i do not think i would be basing a decision based on what is the absolute lightest mouse. such factors as comfort, features and reliability are more important in my opinion.
also, while i understand why you would want to hear responses from people who actually own the particular mice they list you must understand that such a statement severely limits both the mice which get suggsted as well as people posting on the subject. is someone doesnt have any experience with a particular mouse then it is just as easy for you to look up a few reviews about the mouse in question to judge for yourself if you think it is worthwhile.
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as for my own suggestion...
i would say if you want a smooth scrollwheel you might want to have a look at any hyperscroll mice (advertised as hyper-fast scrolling in the link below). you will not find any smoother then those although i think they are a bit too smooth (scrollwheels have clicks for a reason)
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice
its also possible (with some disassembly) to make any mouse scrollwheel non-clicky by bending the little tab projection back on the scrolling mechanism.
have i used hyperscroll mice? nope. i feel they work out very poorly for games because of the hyper-sensitivity and how easy it is to accidentally bump them into movement however this is my own personal opinion.
i have used logitech mice including the older generation of the mx performance (before hyperscroll) as well as one of the smaller sized travel mice and have put thousands of hours through them for gaming.
its worth at least a look to see if you are interested in any of their products.
while i understand eliminating heavy or weighted mice from the playing field i do not think i would be basing a decision based on what is the absolute lightest mouse. such factors as comfort, features and reliability are more important in my opinion.
also, while i understand why you would want to hear responses from people who actually own the particular mice they list you must understand that such a statement severely limits both the mice which get suggsted as well as people posting on the subject. is someone doesnt have any experience with a particular mouse then it is just as easy for you to look up a few reviews about the mouse in question to judge for yourself if you think it is worthwhile.
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as for my own suggestion...
i would say if you want a smooth scrollwheel you might want to have a look at any hyperscroll mice (advertised as hyper-fast scrolling in the link below). you will not find any smoother then those although i think they are a bit too smooth (scrollwheels have clicks for a reason)
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice
its also possible (with some disassembly) to make any mouse scrollwheel non-clicky by bending the little tab projection back on the scrolling mechanism.
have i used hyperscroll mice? nope. i feel they work out very poorly for games because of the hyper-sensitivity and how easy it is to accidentally bump them into movement however this is my own personal opinion.
i have used logitech mice including the older generation of the mx performance (before hyperscroll) as well as one of the smaller sized travel mice and have put thousands of hours through them for gaming.
its worth at least a look to see if you are interested in any of their products.
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nadfar
July 1, 2014 1:00:00 PM
Quote SSDDX: why is weight such an issue?
while i understand eliminating heavy or weighted mice from the playing field i do not think i would be basing a decision based on what is the absolute lightest mouse. such factors as comfort, features and reliability are more important in my opinion. - End qutoe.
Nadfar:
1) About weight, I've noticed I'm MUCH better in ANY FPS with a very lightweight mouse + a smoother mousepad than usual.
The mouse I use currently is TEAC T-42. It's a 6$ mouse and the only thing that bothers me is not having on it more than 3 buttons.
It would be also nice if it was wireless with a replaceable rechargeable battery, but I can live without that (and the battery would make it heavier...).
2) Comfort, features, reliability: I have almost 30 years experience with computers. Comfort for me is WAY MORE about Position (chair, table, keyboard and mouse, screen), chair and table design, type of mouse pad... Fix all that, and the mouse design although still relevant, is much less important. I've used Many mice, and as long they're not shaped like something out of a Picaso painting, it's ok.
I know people may say, that it's possible to get used to anything, but if you use a double deck table, where the mouse and keyboard are at a different height, than you are at a huge disadvantage.
Features: What's that? Macros? Or some other software that the manufacture gave with the package so you won't feel like a sucker for spending so much money on a piece of plastic with buttons? Whatever, I don't care. For years I've been using slow computers and cheap mice and always kicked major ass, and lightweight mouse just improved it.
You know what else improved me, more than any peripheral? Playing Unreal tournament (1999) on the more difficult bot levels (and also some quake 3, although didn't like the game). Man, I mercy all those CS players who encountered me after a session of these games.
Reliability: THIS IS IMPORTANT: As I said, been using MANNNNNNY mice and keyboards, and I can say 100%, I have seen almost no difference between the cheap and costly ones, regarding life of product. Although cheap is a bit more fragile, so get clumsy people away from it.
I'm still using a Logitech.. let's see the model... ok, it's not written, but it's a 10$ mouse (was their most basic one), and I've been using it for more than 10 years (along with other mice.. Have more than one computer) with no problems. It's good for gaming, but found the TEAC to be much better, because it's lighter, and has a belly with less friction (only 4 small points where it touches the ground, which eventually will wear out and the mouse will degrade to the same performance level of the 10$ Logitech mouse.
Quote SSDDX:
also, while i understand why you would want to hear responses from people who actually own the particular mice they list you must understand that such a statement severely limits both the mice which get suggsted as well as people posting on the subject. is someone doesnt have any experience with a particular mouse then it is just as easy for you to look up a few reviews about the mouse in question to judge for yourself if you think it is worthwhile.
You might be right, although I find it harder to trust reviews over the years, because everything seems like a paid review. Youtube is full of them.
But OK, I'll be glad to hear suggestion even from people who just heard from a friend of a friend that some X or Y mouse is the lightest one they had ever seen.
About scrolling, I just hate the clicks.. Can't see why they're needed, unless you're trying to build a cheap way of scroll management.
Is it such a big problem to design a scroll wheel with X amount of friction so it will be easy to scroll but not too easy?
while i understand eliminating heavy or weighted mice from the playing field i do not think i would be basing a decision based on what is the absolute lightest mouse. such factors as comfort, features and reliability are more important in my opinion. - End qutoe.
Nadfar:
1) About weight, I've noticed I'm MUCH better in ANY FPS with a very lightweight mouse + a smoother mousepad than usual.
The mouse I use currently is TEAC T-42. It's a 6$ mouse and the only thing that bothers me is not having on it more than 3 buttons.
It would be also nice if it was wireless with a replaceable rechargeable battery, but I can live without that (and the battery would make it heavier...).
2) Comfort, features, reliability: I have almost 30 years experience with computers. Comfort for me is WAY MORE about Position (chair, table, keyboard and mouse, screen), chair and table design, type of mouse pad... Fix all that, and the mouse design although still relevant, is much less important. I've used Many mice, and as long they're not shaped like something out of a Picaso painting, it's ok.
I know people may say, that it's possible to get used to anything, but if you use a double deck table, where the mouse and keyboard are at a different height, than you are at a huge disadvantage.
Features: What's that? Macros? Or some other software that the manufacture gave with the package so you won't feel like a sucker for spending so much money on a piece of plastic with buttons? Whatever, I don't care. For years I've been using slow computers and cheap mice and always kicked major ass, and lightweight mouse just improved it.
You know what else improved me, more than any peripheral? Playing Unreal tournament (1999) on the more difficult bot levels (and also some quake 3, although didn't like the game). Man, I mercy all those CS players who encountered me after a session of these games.
Reliability: THIS IS IMPORTANT: As I said, been using MANNNNNNY mice and keyboards, and I can say 100%, I have seen almost no difference between the cheap and costly ones, regarding life of product. Although cheap is a bit more fragile, so get clumsy people away from it.
I'm still using a Logitech.. let's see the model... ok, it's not written, but it's a 10$ mouse (was their most basic one), and I've been using it for more than 10 years (along with other mice.. Have more than one computer) with no problems. It's good for gaming, but found the TEAC to be much better, because it's lighter, and has a belly with less friction (only 4 small points where it touches the ground, which eventually will wear out and the mouse will degrade to the same performance level of the 10$ Logitech mouse.
Quote SSDDX:
also, while i understand why you would want to hear responses from people who actually own the particular mice they list you must understand that such a statement severely limits both the mice which get suggsted as well as people posting on the subject. is someone doesnt have any experience with a particular mouse then it is just as easy for you to look up a few reviews about the mouse in question to judge for yourself if you think it is worthwhile.
You might be right, although I find it harder to trust reviews over the years, because everything seems like a paid review. Youtube is full of them.
But OK, I'll be glad to hear suggestion even from people who just heard from a friend of a friend that some X or Y mouse is the lightest one they had ever seen.
About scrolling, I just hate the clicks.. Can't see why they're needed, unless you're trying to build a cheap way of scroll management.
Is it such a big problem to design a scroll wheel with X amount of friction so it will be easy to scroll but not too easy?
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nadfar
July 1, 2014 1:05:13 PM
nadfar
July 2, 2014 5:40:11 AM
@nadfar
perhaps people were a bit put off by how you worded your question and how you wanted your answers.
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what were your thoughts on the logitech hyperscrolling mice currently offered? those might be up your alley.
also, in regards to your "slight resistance but no clicking scrollwheel" this can be accomplished by bending the tab on the scroll mechanism if you cannot find anything you like. you could even modify a $6 mouse so you wouldnt have to be worried about much in case you screwed it up (but its pretty easy to do)
perhaps people were a bit put off by how you worded your question and how you wanted your answers.
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what were your thoughts on the logitech hyperscrolling mice currently offered? those might be up your alley.
also, in regards to your "slight resistance but no clicking scrollwheel" this can be accomplished by bending the tab on the scroll mechanism if you cannot find anything you like. you could even modify a $6 mouse so you wouldnt have to be worried about much in case you screwed it up (but its pretty easy to do)
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nadfar
July 3, 2014 12:48:57 AM
ssddx said:
@nadfar"perhaps people were a bit put off by how you worded your question and how you wanted your answers."
Touchyyyyyy
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what were your thoughts on the logitech hyperscrolling mice currently offered? those might be up your alley.
Still has clicks, and I hate to fiddle with any mouse insides
also, in regards to your "slight resistance but no clicking scrollwheel" this can be accomplished by bending the tab on the scroll mechanism if you cannot find anything you like. you could even modify a $6 mouse so you wouldnt have to be worried about much in case you screwed it up (but its pretty easy to do)
That solution doesn't sound like something that will last
Anyway, from another forum, here are some mice:
1) Steelseries KANA V2
2) Roccat Lua
3) The full size Razer Salmosa, if still available
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