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July 1, 2014 9:01:25 AM

Ok, so I decided to to build a computer for the first time and realized I don't know shit about building computers. So after a lot of research, I came up with a list of parts and wanted help to know whether everything "fits" together. For eg, whether the graphic card is good enough for my monitor or whether the PSU has enough power etc.. or whether there are any better parts out there at comparable prices.

Approximate Purchase Date: next week

Budget Range: approx USD 2000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, movies, music, surfing

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, the budget above should include everything; monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones, etc with shipping.

Parts to Upgrade: none

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Any

Location: Mumbai, India (yeah I know I'm not in the US). Parts available in India would be best, I don't want to spend a fortune on shipping

Parts Preferences: CPU - Intel

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Additional Comments: If you guys don't know any parts available in India, atleast tell me if all the parts I have chosen will work together. :) 

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I'm using a piece of junk by today's standards and wanted a good PC that can handle any games out there at Ultra/Very High settings

Include a list of any parts you have already selected with descriptively labeled links for parts. Please do not post only links.

CPU case
Cooler Master CM Storm Enforcer
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=...

Fans
Cooler Master Megaflow 200 RED LED Silent Fan Cooler
http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/case-fan/megaflow-2...

Power supply unit
Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU partially modular
http://www.flipkart.com/seasonic-s12ii-620-watts-psu/p/...

Processor
Intel 3.1 GHz LGA 1150 i5 4440 4th Generation Processor
http://ark.intel.com/products/75038/Intel-Core-i5-4440-...

Motherboard
Gigabyte H87M-D3H Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD
Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB (MZ-7TE120BW)
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/memory-cards-hdd-odd...

Hard disk
Seagate 2 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive

Graphic card
Sapphire AMD/ATI R9 280 Overclock Edition 3 GB DDR5 Graphics Card
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6210/sapphire-radeon-r...

DVD drive
Asus DRW-24D3ST DVD Burner Internal Optical Drive (Black)
http://www.asus.com/Optical_Drives/DRW24D3ST/

Screen
Asus 24 inch VG248QE LED Backlit LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard & Mouse
CM Storm Devastator USB Mouse and USB Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mousepad
SteelSeries QcK 63004 Gaming Mouse Pad (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-QcK-Gaming-Mouse-Blac...

Headphones
Cooler Master Ceres-500 Wired Headset (Black)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Foldable-Control-...

Thanks in advance!
a c 232 4 Gaming
July 1, 2014 9:14:03 AM

1. I'd use the Phanteks Enthoo Pro or Corsair 500D in that price range

2. I'd upgrade to the Seasonic M12 750 watter to handle SLI'd 770s in future.

3. For the $45 price difference, I really can't see not getting the 4690k.

4. For the $45 price difference, I really can't see not getting a good Z97 MoBo like the MSI G45

5. If need be, to make room in the budget, I'd get the Seagate 2 TB SSHD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Without a stopwatch or benchmark, you can't tell the difference between SSHD and SSD+ HD

Boot Times on same machine

SSD - 15.6 seconds
SSHD - 16.5 seconds
HD - 21.6 seconds

Other than that, only suggestion I'd make is wired KB and Mouse and no wore on headphones (Logitech 930)


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July 1, 2014 9:56:52 AM

Do you order from amazon uk usually?
Anyway, I wouldn't recommend overclocking for your build. Even overclocking from 3.5GHz to 4.5GHz would give maybe up to 15% improvement for graphics, but would cost at least £100 more because you'd be buying a k version cpu, a z version motherboard, and a good cpu cooler. Not overclocking saves money on all those, and the stock heatsink works fine.
The GTX 770 graphics card is really good for the money, and the 2GB is more than enough on 1080p.
I'd recommend sticking with the separate solid state and hard disk drive.
I included thermal paste, which you can/should use on the cpu, and on the graphics card. The newer graphics cards are very easy to take apart, because it doesn't require complete dis-assembly now. I repasted my 770 in about 30 minutes, and I was going slower because it was my first time.

As far as the rest of the build (mouse, keyboard, headset, monitor, case) it's 100% up to you for preference. The monitor you posted is 144hz, which some people say they can tell a difference. I used it for about a month, and it was a little smoother, but I didn't care for spending the extra money on it. And for keyboard, if you haven't used a mechanical keyboard before, I'd highly recommend getting one, the feeling is incredible. The one I listed might not be the best, but just wanted to keep cooler master brand since that's what you posted.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz (£160.93 @ Amazon UK)
Thermal Compound: Noctua NT-H1 3.5g Thermal Paste (£6.95 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 (£57.23 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 (£60.06 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB (£58.27 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM (£58.72 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II (£239.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer (£82.41 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular (£62.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 (£11.88 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£79.89 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" (£119.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans (£19.00 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Trigger Wired Gaming Keyboard (£95.70 @ Amazon UK)
Mouse: Cooler Master CM Storm Xornet Wired Optical Mouse (£16.99 @ Amazon UK)
Headphones: Turtle Beach Ear Force Z11 Headset (£35.72 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1166.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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a c 232 4 Gaming
July 1, 2014 10:51:49 AM

Just a heads up based upon experience with stock cooler on haswell ...... I couldn't run even basic non AVX stress tests while I used the stock cooler for stability testing before setting up custom water loop. CPU would hit 85C within a minute at stock speeds .... and that's here in northern US during late fall, in India's much hotter climate, I'd have to go with a 3rd party cooler regardless.

With a $2,000 budget, I can't imagine a non K no SLI / CF capable build. It offers no opportunity for improvement..... no opportunity down the road to overclock, no opportunity to add a 2nd GFX card. The ability to add a 2nd GFX card can easily extend system life 18 months or more.

With the Cooler a given in that climate, we are talking a mere 4.5% of the system budget to offer SLI and overclocking. That's less cost than the SSD which gets you 0.9 seconds improvement in boot time and little else as games will mostly be on the HD. I'd sooner drop the SSD + HD for an SSHD, especially when in gaming, the SSHD (9.76) is 50% faster than the Barracuda (6.56) and the cost savings will pay for the CPU cost difference.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/-17-...

Also, if it was the 780 and user was manually overclocking, I could get behind the Asus, but the 770 is woefully under clocked at 1058 Mhz compared to Gigabyte, MSI and even EVGA.

One more thing.... 1866 CAS 9 and 2133 CAS 9 can oft be found at same price as 1600 CAS 9




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July 1, 2014 11:40:09 AM

With shipping to India and increased cost for parts, a $2000 build is more like a $1600 build. And without the monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, or operating system, it's closer to a $1100 build.
At that price, for pure gaming, I wouldn't 'recommend' an SSD, but if it were my build, an SSD adds such quick response times and a smooth feeling for general or basic programs.
I agree that stock heatsinks from Intel are garbage, but you're not supposed to run a stress test on them. Even during gaming the cpu wouldn't experience close to the amount of heat as during a stress test. For gaming on an $1100 build, you don't need to overclock, and the haswell refresh, especially the 4690 version, handles heat much better anyway.
With a $1100 budget, I can imagine a non k build (see above). For gaming, it's what I'd recommend.
If the buyer was willing to get much cheaper keyboard, mouse, and headset, and drop the SSD, he could easily upgrade to a GTX 780, which would be a better investment still, and give more performance, than a k version cpu, z version motherboard, and 3rd party heatsink.
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July 1, 2014 9:36:50 PM

t3nn1spr3p said:
With shipping to India and increased cost for parts, a $2000 build is more like a $1600 build. And without the monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, or operating system, it's closer to a $1100 build.
At that price, for pure gaming, I wouldn't 'recommend' an SSD, but if it were my build, an SSD adds such quick response times and a smooth feeling for general or basic programs.
I agree that stock heatsinks from Intel are garbage, but you're not supposed to run a stress test on them. Even during gaming the cpu wouldn't experience close to the amount of heat as during a stress test. For gaming on an $1100 build, you don't need to overclock, and the haswell refresh, especially the 4690 version, handles heat much better anyway.
With a $1100 budget, I can imagine a non k build (see above). For gaming, it's what I'd recommend.
If the buyer was willing to get much cheaper keyboard, mouse, and headset, and drop the SSD, he could easily upgrade to a GTX 780, which would be a better investment still, and give more performance, than a k version cpu, z version motherboard, and 3rd party heatsink.


This buyer wont drop the Gaming peripherals and headset. I know it cause I'm helping him :D . He's hell bent on looks. I think an SSD would be a neat addition for his $2000 build. Plus some one suggested buying from amazon UK. Considering the he wants it next week I think we can rule that out.

We were considering this case, Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Mid Tower. It has 2 fans in the front and his Air conditioner is 3 feet away from his cabinet. How cool will this system be with this case?

For heavy gaming, mostly MMORPGs and FPS games do we need 3rd party CPU coolers? I'm guessing the graphics takes the load so as long as he won't overlock the CPU he should be fine.

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a c 232 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 8:03:20 PM

SSDs are cool for bragging rights in benchmarks, a high WEI, and less than a second advantage in boot time ..... but that's about it unless ya talking TB's of storage.....the SSHD makes sense here.

I'd rather have the 500R than the 450D. But the Phanteks Enthoo Pro (Case of the Year 2014) is far far better and cheaper....can find where to buy here:

http://phanteks.com/map.html

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