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July 1, 2014 10:21:21 AM

Looking to upgrade my old gaming rig with
EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Superclocked 1046MHZ 2GB
and AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition

Current system is amd athlon x2 6000
6gb DDR 2
bfg 9800 GT 512 mb.

Im looking to play games on 20" monitor with about high graphics(medium if not) with playable quality. also want to know how long would this hardware will last before dying out with games

p.s please keep in mind i cant choose any processor with am3+ socket coz i have am3 socket MB.

please let me know if its worth upgrading,

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July 1, 2014 10:23:56 AM

Well, I think you would be better off with a GTX 760, but it is up to you. That Phenom may also bottleneck you on games like Battlefield.
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July 1, 2014 10:27:19 AM

if you get anything bigger than a 2gig 6950 or 7850/70 it'll never get used to it's potential.
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July 1, 2014 10:31:11 AM

swifty_morgan said:
if you get anything bigger than a 2gig 6950 or 7850/70 it'll never get used to it's potential.


It depends on the game, but this is true. You should use something like an R7 265.
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July 1, 2014 10:31:26 AM

swifty_morgan said:
if you get anything bigger than a 2gig 6950 or 7850/70 it'll never get used to it's potential.


is it because of the phenom?
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July 1, 2014 10:31:43 AM

Considering we don't know the PSU either it's hard to say.

A 750ti shouldn't bottleneck too much, should run just as fine in pci-e 2.0 and will run off the PCI-E slot and not the PSU. It can get 30+ fps in ultra on most new games.
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July 1, 2014 10:33:09 AM

Andrew Buck said:
swifty_morgan said:
if you get anything bigger than a 2gig 6950 or 7850/70 it'll never get used to it's potential.


It depends on the game, but this is true. You should use something like an R7 265.

R7 265 for me is same price as EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Superclocked 1046MHZ 2GB because its on sale. Plus i get free watch dogs lol
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July 1, 2014 10:33:49 AM

jaraldo said:
Considering we don't know the PSU either it's hard to say.

A 750ti shouldn't bottleneck too much, should run just as fine in pci-e 2.0 and will run off the PCI-E slot and not the PSU. It can get 30+ fps in ultra on most new games.


I have a 750 watt corsair psu
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July 1, 2014 10:38:25 AM

Well that's at least acceptable, even if it's a CX model.

You could get the r7 265 then, as it's in the same tier as the 7850; going by swifty's recommendation. (and comes with watchdogs :p )
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...
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July 1, 2014 10:38:27 AM

Azfar Siddiqui said:
jaraldo said:
Considering we don't know the PSU either it's hard to say.

A 750ti shouldn't bottleneck too much, should run just as fine in pci-e 2.0 and will run off the PCI-E slot and not the PSU. It can get 30+ fps in ultra on most new games.


I have a 750 watt corsair psu


Hmm... Those usually aren't the best, but I have one and have no issues... The 750 Ti still runs off of the PSU through the motherboard. The 660 is probably fine, but the GTX 750 Ti is also good.
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July 1, 2014 10:41:02 AM

Andrew Buck said:
Azfar Siddiqui said:
jaraldo said:
Considering we don't know the PSU either it's hard to say.

A 750ti shouldn't bottleneck too much, should run just as fine in pci-e 2.0 and will run off the PCI-E slot and not the PSU. It can get 30+ fps in ultra on most new games.


I have a 750 watt corsair psu


Hmm... Those usually aren't the best, but I have one and have no issues... The 750 Ti still runs off of the PSU through the motherboard. The 660 is probably fine, but the GTX 750 Ti is also good.


Yeah, thanks for clearing that up. (could have confused someone forsure)
Just meant there was no 6-pin required :p 
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July 1, 2014 10:42:10 AM

Azfar Siddiqui said:
swifty_morgan said:
if you get anything bigger than a 2gig 6950 or 7850/70 it'll never get used to it's potential.


is it because of the phenom?


yes, it has it's limits. even when over clocked. games and coding changes. cpu's don't.

the 750 listed wouldn't be a bad card but I really don't like the small bus. you can still play lots of games but FC3/Crysis2-3/dogs/and many other newer games will suffer regardless of card. sometimes it's all in the cpu so to speak.
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July 1, 2014 10:42:15 AM

jaraldo said:
Andrew Buck said:
Azfar Siddiqui said:
jaraldo said:
Considering we don't know the PSU either it's hard to say.

A 750ti shouldn't bottleneck too much, should run just as fine in pci-e 2.0 and will run off the PCI-E slot and not the PSU. It can get 30+ fps in ultra on most new games.


I have a 750 watt corsair psu


Hmm... Those usually aren't the best, but I have one and have no issues... The 750 Ti still runs off of the PSU through the motherboard. The 660 is probably fine, but the GTX 750 Ti is also good.


Yeah, thanks for clearing that up. (could have confused someone forsure)
Just meant there was no 6-pin required :p 


Yeah, but on some there are.
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July 1, 2014 10:45:01 AM

so AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition wouldnt really be a good choice as per say?
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July 1, 2014 10:46:57 AM

Azfar Siddiqui said:
so AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition wouldnt really be a good choice as per say?


If you could afford a new motherboard like the M5A97 LE R2.0, you could put in an FX-6300 and get great performance.
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July 1, 2014 10:47:41 AM

@ Azfar Siddiqui

What? why? o_O It's one of the best options you have. They were an amazing CPU in their day.

I'd go with the phenom and the r7 265, unless you have the budget for adding in a new mobo to.

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July 1, 2014 10:48:44 AM

jaraldo said:
What? why? o_O It's one of the best option you have. They were an amazing CPU in their day.

I'd go with the phenom and the r7 265.



In their day. This isn't their day anymore. The Phenom would be great, but may slightly bottleneck that GPU. The 265 is good, though.
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July 1, 2014 10:48:53 AM

Andrew Buck said:
Azfar Siddiqui said:
so AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition wouldnt really be a good choice as per say?


If you could afford a new motherboard like the M5A97 LE R2.0, you could put in an FX-6300 and get great performance.


i would but than new mb means new ram and it all adds up to a big cost. Not that much of big fan of gaming to spend 4-5 hundred dollars for upgrade to play some games here n there(far cry 4, rome total war 2, company of heroes 2) etc
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July 1, 2014 10:49:48 AM

Azfar Siddiqui said:
Andrew Buck said:
Azfar Siddiqui said:
so AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition wouldnt really be a good choice as per say?


If you could afford a new motherboard like the M5A97 LE R2.0, you could put in an FX-6300 and get great performance.


i would but than new mb means new ram and it all adds up to a big cost. Not that much of big fan of gaming to spend 4-5 hundred dollars for upgrade to play some games here n there(far cry 4, rome total war 2, company of heroes 2) etc


True, forgot that AM3 was DDR2. You should be fine with your setup now, so go for an R7 265 or something along those lines. Good luck! :) 
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July 1, 2014 10:50:08 AM

Agreed. The phenom and r7 265 will play those games easily.
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July 1, 2014 10:53:10 AM

so is r7 265 better than EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Superclocked 1046MHZ 2GB ? am asking because i been nvidia fan since first day,and its only 20 bucks more.
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July 1, 2014 10:54:21 AM

Azfar Siddiqui said:
so is r7 265 better than EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Superclocked 1046MHZ 2GB ? am asking because i been nvidia fan since first day,and its only 20 bucks more.


Well, they are pretty close. You would get close to the same performance with both, because that bottleneck will still barely be there.
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July 1, 2014 10:58:30 AM

Here's some benchmarks. As stated, about the same performance.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r7-265-revie...

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July 1, 2014 11:02:13 AM

if you look on newegg they had a 6970 for about $100 after rebate............ up front price was like $130........ this was in the past few days. you should look.
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July 1, 2014 11:32:14 AM

one last thing. is 6gb ram good enough or should i invest in 8gb. i currently have 2gb+2gb+1gb+1gb setup. all slots full. if i do go for 8 gb ill have to take out the 1 gigs.
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July 1, 2014 11:37:20 AM

There can be complications sometimes if you are mixing ram. Since you don't seem to have any problem with it and if you have the money, you could go for 2x2 gb.

I would try out 6gb with your new set up and see how it goes. I have a feeling you won't notice much from 6gb compared to 8gb. (4gb to 8gb = difference)
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July 1, 2014 11:37:27 AM

Azfar Siddiqui said:
one last thing. is 6gb ram good enough or should i invest in 8gb. i currently have 2gb+2gb+1gb+1gb setup. all slots full. if i do go for 8 gb ill have to take out the 1 gigs.


Well that may be holding you back having such an odd setup of RAM. I would say get 2 4 GB sticks of this: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-240-Pin-Platfor...
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July 4, 2014 1:10:13 PM

Do you guys think ill be able to run far cry 4 and battlefield hardline on reasonable settings with reasonable frame rates on this config?
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July 4, 2014 1:17:09 PM

Hehe, you are a bit eager no? :p 

Both these games don't come out for awhile, so no benchmarks or even anything we can tell you about it.

The 660 can play watchdogs/bf4 reasonably, so I think it would be same for far cry 4/ BF Hardline in acceptable/good settings.
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July 4, 2014 1:25:45 PM

jaraldo said:
Hehe, you are a bit eager no? :p 

Both these games don't come out for awhile, so no benchmarks or even anything we can tell you about it.

The 660 can play watchdogs/bf4 reasonably, so I think it would be same for far cry 4/ BF Hardline in acceptable/good settings.


Lol yes i am because i wanna see if its worth for me to spend 250$ on upgrade or just spend 400$ on ps4
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July 4, 2014 1:51:38 PM

jaraldo said:
Here's some benchmarks. As stated, about the same performance.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r7-265-revie...



next time you post benchmarks you should also make sure you post the specs of the machine they were run on,. no way will the 965 come close to these.
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July 4, 2014 8:36:03 PM

Ah fair enough, noted. :) 
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July 4, 2014 11:40:59 PM

alright guys so im making a final decision

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition. Yay or nay ?
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July 4, 2014 11:45:27 PM

Unless you have the $ to replace the motherboard and CPU, that's your best option. Go for the 965 I'd say.
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July 4, 2014 11:50:10 PM

Just realize that i have Nforce 980 motherboard. would i be able to put on Amd ati graphic card on that ?
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July 5, 2014 2:36:31 AM

ATI and AMD are the same company, so I would imagine an AM3 mobo working with their graphics cards :p 

But besides that, all motherboards that I know of can use a single ATI or Nvidia card in them. So yes, you can :) 
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July 5, 2014 9:33:27 AM

jaraldo said:
ATI and AMD are the same company, so I would imagine an AM3 mobo working with their graphics cards :p 

But besides that, all motherboards that I know of can use a single ATI or Nvidia card in them. So yes, you can :) 


thanks for everyones help :) 
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