I am buying one of these two rigs... Opinions wanted

cwb50 · Jul 1, 2014

Ok, so I have two complete parts lists drawn up... They are very similar except for a couple aspects (mainly Intel or AMD).

I am not going to change ANYTHING IN THESE BUILDS unless somebody says it will blow up or something, I just need help deciding which to choose!

The rig is being designed for this:

Types of games: Minecraft, Sims 4, Elderscrolls (Skyrim, not online elderscrolls), Valve (half-life, portal), Real-Time Strategies (Age of Mythology, Anno, etc), some steam games, etc.

Streaming video, recording video, editing video

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.62 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC E2360SD 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($129.36 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Total: $852.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.62 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($41.13 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC E2360SD 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($129.36 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Total: $895.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Andrew Buck · Jul 1, 2014

cwb50 :

Ok, so I have two complete parts lists drawn up... They are very similar except for a couple aspects (mainly Intel or AMD).

I am not going to change ANYTHING IN THESE BUILDS unless somebody says it will blow up or something, I just need help deciding which to choose!

The rig is being designed for this:

Types of games: Minecraft, Sims 4, Elderscrolls (Skyrim, not online elderscrolls), Valve (half-life, portal), Real-Time Strategies (Age of Mythology, Anno, etc), some steam games, etc.

Streaming video, recording video, editing video

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.62 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC E2360SD 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($129.36 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Total: $852.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.62 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($41.13 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC E2360SD 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($129.36 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Total: $895.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

The 8320 build would suit you best for editing. It has 8 cores, so its rendering performance is pretty much on par with a Core i7. I would change the CPU out for a 550 XFX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Cm6qs) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Cm6qs/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590) | $199.98 @ SuperBiiz
**Motherboard** | [ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97pro4) | $86.66 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls2kit4g3d1609ds1s00) | $74.99 @ Micro Center
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003) | $52.91 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100373l) | $219.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r) | $59.62 @ Mwave
**Power Supply** | [XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb9) | $49.99 @ NCIX US
**Optical Drive** | [Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas) | $16.98 @ OutletPC
**Monitor** | [AOC E2360SD 60Hz 23.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-e2360sd) | $129.36 @ B&H
**Keyboard** | [Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logitech-keyboard-920002565) | $14.18 @ B&H
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $904.66

second one with this powersupply

for gaming and if u need more for video editing the 1th pick is best

cwb50 · Jul 1, 2014

Dangit I keep clicking the solved button instead of reply

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

well i already answered ur question do u require more help?

cwb50 · Jul 1, 2014

iceclock :

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Cm6qs) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Cm6qs/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590) | $199.98 @ SuperBiiz
**Motherboard** | [ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97pro4) | $86.66 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls2kit4g3d1609ds1s00) | $74.99 @ Micro Center
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003) | $52.91 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100373l) | $219.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r) | $59.62 @ Mwave
**Power Supply** | [XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb9) | $49.99 @ NCIX US
**Optical Drive** | [Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas) | $16.98 @ OutletPC
**Monitor** | [AOC E2360SD 60Hz 23.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-e2360sd) | $129.36 @ B&H
**Keyboard** | [Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logitech-keyboard-920002565) | $14.18 @ B&H
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $904.66

second one with this powersupply

for gaming and if u need more for video editing the 1th pick is best

Why do I need to change power supplies, PC Parts picker says my estimated wattage is 383

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

because thats not a quality powersupply

Andrew Buck · Jul 1, 2014

Get the 8320 one. 8320s beat the 4590 in rendering any day.

cwb50 · Jul 1, 2014

iceclock :

Kind of, your post raises an internal struggle...

I do lots of (what I understand to be) system soft gaming: Minecraft, Sims 4, Elderscrolls (Skyrim, not online elderscrolls), Valve (half-life, portal), Real-Time Strategies (Age of Mythology, Anno, etc), some steam games, etc.

However, I also do a lot of video editing

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

yes because of double the cores sir.

intel beats amd in gaming but not in rendering or video editing unless ur talking 4770k or 6core intels that are alot more expensive.

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

if your first priority is video-editing this will be your best option

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.62 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC E2360SD 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($129.36 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Total: $852.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Andrew Buck · Jul 1, 2014

Yes. My 8320 was almost equal to my 4770K in rendering. As somebody why has seen both sides, AMD is best there over the i5.

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

its cool that a 170$ cpu beats a 310$ one in rendering sweet

cwb50 · Jul 1, 2014

iceclock :

if your first priority is video-editing this will be your best option

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.62 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC E2360SD 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($129.36 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Total: $852.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I also game a lot, but I am not doing BF4 or CoD or anything like that. I understand Skyrim to be the hardest game for my CPU to run

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

i haver a 8350 and play alot fo games. runs great

Andrew Buck · Jul 1, 2014

If you do Skyrim, Intel wins. But the question is whether or not you want better rendering or better Skyrim.

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

yes well it seems like video editing is number#1 priority up to u but if it is the 8core amd will win

Andrew Buck · Jul 1, 2014

Yes. AMD will also still have good FPS in Skyrim (50 or so) but the Intel will have probably close to 90 or 100.

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

but lets be realistic anything over 60 doesnt really matter tbh

cwb50 · Jul 1, 2014

iceclock :

I guess my big question is... Ok Intel wins in gaming, AMD wins in editing/rendering...

First, is there a difference in terms of video streaming and recording? (Or is it the same deal)

Second, if editing is first priority, are my games going to SUFFER from not having the Intel? Another way to ask this: I currently use and Intel Core i5-2540M 2.6 GHZ.... So I game on an extremely crappy level right now, is either one going to seem worlds away for me?

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

no games will not suffer i have built an amd system and it rocks at multi-tasking gaming, video editing we i trow at it it runs great.

the amd build will game and do work stuff great.

pretty shur amd can stream and record just as good as intel.

Andrew Buck · Jul 1, 2014

Iceclock is right. It is about equal, maybe in favor of AMD because of the eight cores.

cwb50 · Jul 1, 2014

iceclock :

So multi-task gaming (Which is the gaming I do %80 of the time), Twitch streaming, minecraft, with spotify playing... Or recording in PC games, etc. Also editing 1080p etc... All this mean I want the CPU with more core?

iceclock · Jul 1, 2014

well in this case all the above u described= 8core amd is best solution

cwb50 · Jul 1, 2014

iceclock :

So let me ask you, someone told me this:

"AMD is not going to release any new CPU's for AM3+. The reintroduced the space heater of an FX 9590, with a Seidon 120 series cooler, but you have to have a more expensive board to handle the 220w TDP. The cost involved would be similar to that of a 4790K on air cooling, that would surpass it. An FX 8350 is the next step from an FX 8320, but the FX 8320 can easily match the FX 8350 and average overclock of the two is only about 100mhz or so different.

If you get an H97/Z97 board, you can go Haswell now, and upgrade to Broadwell when it is released."

I asked:
"So what you are saying is: with my current CPU and MOBO, I am never going to be able to upgrade my CPU. BUT if I get a different MOBO I will be able to upgrade one day?"

He never anserwerd, can you speak to this at all?

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