Can I water cool a 2way Titan SLI BitFenix Phenom M?

Kaneturner1998 · Jul 1, 2014

I was thinking about my next PC upgrade and I was wondering if I would be able to fit water cooling (1 1x120mm radiator and 1 2x120mm radiator) into a 2-Way Titan SLI'd BitFenix Phenom (mATX case).

6R1M01R3 · Jul 1, 2014

You can, it will be really uncomfortable to install the radiators inside but they will fit. You could set the 120 rad's fan as intake and the 240 rad fans as exhaust

Kaneturner1998 · Jul 1, 2014

6R1M01R3 :

Ok nice

Thanks for the help. Could you possibly help me with something else? I want to know if I've selected the right parts to achieve water cooling. Here's a list of what I've chosen:

Swiftech Apogee HD 4-Port Waterblock
XSPC Full Cover Razor GTX Titan
XSPC AX120 Single Fan Radiator
XSPC AX240 Dual Fan Radiator
XSPC Acrylic Tank Reservoir for Laing DDC (Multiport)
12V Laing DDC-1 Plus Ultra Pump (18w)
Primochill PrimoFlex LRT Advanced hose 13/10 mm
13/10mm (10x1.5mm) Compression Fitting Outer Thread 3/8' - Knurled
XSPC - EC6 Non Conductive Coolant - UV Green
SLI Connector - Slot 2 Black Nickel
Is there anything I'm missing, or are any of the parts not compatible with each other?

6R1M01R3 · Jul 1, 2014

For what I looked, the parts are compatible. Then again, its going to be quite uncomfortable to install the components, but not impossible. Make sure to have airflow for the motherboard as well

Kaneturner1998 · Jul 1, 2014

6R1M01R3 :

Thanks. Last time I posted something on here no one replied, but this time you replied literally minutes after the post. So thanks for that

Rammy · Jul 2, 2014

I'd be really skeptical about A) whether or not stuff will fit and B) how well it will work if it does.

For your 240mm rad, you should be able to mount at the top or the bottom of the case, as both have the obligatory 2*120mm mount points, but both are significantly depth-limited depending on how you lay out the rest of your components. At the bottom this is likely to be the HDD mounting cage, and at the top you might end up touching (or totally flush) with your graphics card, though this will depend on if your motherboard uses slots 1+3 or slots 1+4.

Putting a 120mm rad on the back will also reduce the depth available in the bottom section.

For high end SLI it's likely you'll have a pretty meaty PSU, and this might cause issues too-

Q: Will the XYZ Power Supply or ZYX Video Card fit inside the Prodigy M?
Video cards at 9.5inches or less will have 200mm of power supply clearance
Video cards at 11 inches or less will have 160mm of power supply clearance
Video cards at over 11 inches will have 150mm of power supply clearance.

As for performance, I'm no water cooling expert, but I would guess that because you can't run (m)any of these rads in push/pull, and there is no clear, defined airflow in the case, you'll get really average results even with high end components.

My concern is that you'll spend a vast amount of money here, and either it won't work at all, or it won't fulfil your expectations. Personally I really dislike the Prodigy/Phenom M due to a poor layout and multiple component conflicts.
If you want to do water cooled SLI on a mATX platform, I'd suggest looking at the Corsair 350D (even though it's pretty huge) or Fractal Design Arc Mini. If you want something Bitfenixy with mATX and a better layout, then the Aerocool Dead Silence may fit the bill.

Kaneturner1998 · Jul 2, 2014

Rammy :

I'd be really skeptical about A) whether or not stuff will fit and B) how well it will work if it does.

For your 240mm rad, you should be able to mount at the top or the bottom of the case, as both have the obligatory 2*120mm mount points, but both are significantly depth-limited depending on how you lay out the rest of your components. At the bottom this is likely to be the HDD mounting cage, and at the top you might end up touching (or totally flush) with your graphics card, though this will depend on if your motherboard uses slots 1+3 or slots 1+4.

Putting a 120mm rad on the back will also reduce the depth available in the bottom section.

For high end SLI it's likely you'll have a pretty meaty PSU, and this might cause issues too-

Q: Will the XYZ Power Supply or ZYX Video Card fit inside the Prodigy M?
Video cards at 9.5inches or less will have 200mm of power supply clearance
Video cards at 11 inches or less will have 160mm of power supply clearance
Video cards at over 11 inches will have 150mm of power supply clearance.

As for performance, I'm no water cooling expert, but I would guess that because you can't run (m)any of these rads in push/pull, and there is no clear, defined airflow in the case, you'll get really average results even with high end components.

My concern is that you'll spend a vast amount of money here, and either it won't work at all, or it won't fulfil your expectations. Personally I really dislike the Prodigy/Phenom M due to a poor layout and multiple component conflicts.
If you want to do water cooled SLI on a mATX platform, I'd suggest looking at the Corsair 350D (even though it's pretty huge) or Fractal Design Arc Mini. If you want something Bitfenixy with mATX and a better layout, then the Aerocool Dead Silence may fit the bill.

So what I want will definitely fit in the Aerocool Dead Silence?

Rammy · Jul 2, 2014

EDITED due to your edit making mine make no sense lol.

The 350D is very big as it sits on fairly tall feet and has a large section at the top of the case to cover radiators and cable routing. It's actually very similar in overall size to some of the more compact ATX towers, but it does have excellent provision for water cooling with 240/280mm rad locations on the top and front, as well as others for smaller ones.
The Arc Mini is a little bit smaller as it has 4 expansion slots as opposed to the 5 in the 350D, as well as less space at the top. This means you need to have a motherboard using slots 1+3 if you want to SLI with dual slot cards. For water cooling I'd imagine this remains true as you'd need some space for fittings. It's slightly deeper than the 350D too, which means you can potentially fit a 360mm rad depending on your config (and I think 280mm too though it's not listed on their specs) as well as various others.
The Aerocool is quite different, as it uses a horizontal motherboard layout, so it's very wide, and again you only get 4 expansion slots, but if the Bitfenix type look is what you had in mind it's possibly a better option, though it'll only take a 240mm rad in the top section. There's quite a lot of examples of water cooling in this case, and I can't spot any obvious issues, but it's worth seeing how others got on with the same case.

Kaneturner1998 · Jul 2, 2014

Rammy :

EDITED due to your edit making mine make no sense lol.

The 350D is very big as it sits on fairly tall feet and has a large section at the top of the case to cover radiators and cable routing. It's actually very similar in overall size to some of the more compact ATX towers, but it does have excellent provision for water cooling with 240/280mm rad locations on the top and front, as well as others for smaller ones.
The Arc Mini is a little bit smaller as it has 4 expansion slots as opposed to the 5 in the 350D, as well as less space at the top. This means you need to have a motherboard using slots 1+3 if you want to SLI with dual slot cards. For water cooling I'd imagine this remains true as you'd need some space for fittings. It's slightly deeper than the 350D too, which means you can potentially fit a 360mm rad depending on your config (and I think 280mm too though it's not listed on their specs) as well as various others.
The Aerocool is quite different, as it uses a horizontal motherboard layout, so it's very wide, and again you only get 4 expansion slots, but if the Bitfenix type look is what you had in mind it's possibly a better option, though it'll only take a 240mm rad in the top section. There's quite a lot of examples of water cooling in this case, and I can't spot any obvious issues, but it's worth seeing how others got on with the same case.

That should be fine, I was planning on having one 1x120mm rad and one 2x120mm rad in this thing.

Rammy · Jul 2, 2014

What I would say is that at a guess, doing that build in the Aerocool is not going to be much fun. If you aren't super confident, it's likely to throw up some challenges with access.
This is not an SLI version, but it shows how little space is available above the graphics card blocks.

By comparison, a build in a more conventional mini-tower is likely to be far simpler.

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