CPU at wrong frequency?
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CGurrell
July 2, 2014 3:27:34 AM
I noticed my PC was going quite slowly recently (It's only 7 months old, didn't expect drop offs in speed like this), so I decided to check my CPU in CPU-Z to see if that brought up any issues. Now my CPU is an i5-3470, it's a locked processor (meaning I haven't OC'ed it in any way) and normally runs at either 1.6GHz (when not much is happening), 3.2GHz (Normal) or 3.6GHz (turbo). So anyway I opened up CPU-Z, not much running on the PC, just CPU-Z, one instance of Google Chrome, Razer Synapse and my anti-virus, yet the CPU is constantly running at 3.4GHz (See pic). I know it sounds stupid that a CPU running faster than normal would cause the PC to run slower, but the fact it's running this fast when not much is going on is worrying me a little. Can anyone let me know if this is normal or if I should be worried?
I also think an issue could be my HDD, again it's only 7 months old but it's making a lot of noise when reading/writing data and sometimes the computer freezes completely when these noises are being heard. Sometimes I also have an issue where no folders or shortcuts work, yet the internet (as long as it was open before the issue first appears) works like a charm. It sounds to me like the computer is loading Chrome into the RAM before any issues occur, which is why it can run when the HDD is having issues.
Any input to this would be helpful guys
Chris
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I also think an issue could be my HDD, again it's only 7 months old but it's making a lot of noise when reading/writing data and sometimes the computer freezes completely when these noises are being heard. Sometimes I also have an issue where no folders or shortcuts work, yet the internet (as long as it was open before the issue first appears) works like a charm. It sounds to me like the computer is loading Chrome into the RAM before any issues occur, which is why it can run when the HDD is having issues.
Any input to this would be helpful guys
Chris
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Tcinator
July 2, 2014 10:59:26 AM
Everything you have said bleeds failing hard drive. is this a custom build? if so, RMA that HDD! 7 month old consumer grade HDD's do not make much noise or any noise at all. maybe some vibration, but that's it! You got it right. Grab a copy of SeaTools from Seagate http://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/support-conten... and let that tell you for sure.
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Tcinator
July 2, 2014 11:03:10 AM
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CGurrell
July 2, 2014 11:43:34 AM
Hi Tcinator,
Basically I've already RMA'd the SSD as the PC wouldn't boot when it was installed (It is an SSD but its basically a 32GB Cache Drive), but now I'm starting to think it's a HDD problem. Luckily I bought the HDD from a local shop so I can just take it down there and tell them what's going on. Definitely doing a backup of everything vital tonight just in case
Basically I've already RMA'd the SSD as the PC wouldn't boot when it was installed (It is an SSD but its basically a 32GB Cache Drive), but now I'm starting to think it's a HDD problem. Luckily I bought the HDD from a local shop so I can just take it down there and tell them what's going on. Definitely doing a backup of everything vital tonight just in case
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CGurrell
July 2, 2014 11:54:14 AM
Ok so that's weird, when I try to install SeaTools, the PC restarts and then I can't find SeaTools anywhere, even using windows search (Windows Key + S). In the list of programs stored on my PC (from Control Panel) the program has the generic logo windows uses when there isn't a given logo
EDIT: Nevermind got it working, drive passed SMART test with no problems. Which other tests should I do?
EDIT: Nevermind got it working, drive passed SMART test with no problems. Which other tests should I do?
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Tcinator
July 2, 2014 11:57:06 AM
I would definitely recommend that. WD also makes a diagnostic tool, but.. I mean, its the HDD. Not a doubt. As far as the clock speeds, CPU-Z shows the reported clock speed of the processor itself. Not the currently running frequency. TMonitor will show you current speeds ftp://ftp.cpuid.com/tmonitor/tmonitor_1.04.zip. Hope this resolves all your questions.
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CGurrell
July 2, 2014 12:02:50 PM
Tcinator
July 2, 2014 12:09:51 PM
CGurrell said:
CPU-Z's clock speed numbers constantly update, not sure if that makes any difference lol. Do you recommend any other tests other than the SMART test?There is a CPU maximum frequency which is what the CPU is running at, and a current frequency which is "CPU usage", these 2 numbers are different. if you bring up resource monitor you will see a blue and green graph. the blue is max frequency, which is what you see in CPU-Z and the green is current utilization, which is what you can monitor with TMonitor from CPUID. the SMART test can pass easily depending on how the drive is failing. Which is why I would recommend Seatools or the WD diagnostics. They are much more thorough.
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CGurrell
July 2, 2014 12:23:11 PM
Tcinator
July 2, 2014 12:29:49 PM
CGurrell said:
I did the SMART test via the SeaTools software, I'm not sure which test to run in SeaTools as there are so many, if you could let me know which to run that would be great
The Short Drive Self Test is a good tool. Takes less than 2 minutes. But it may pass as well. If you have some time, the "Fix All" takes a while but is thorough.
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CGurrell
July 2, 2014 12:46:35 PM
it's been a few minutes and the test has been stuck like this for a while
http://gyazo.com/86a6b0d725ee4b39d3d61a03738b5356
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Tcinator
July 2, 2014 12:52:23 PM
CGurrell
July 2, 2014 12:58:57 PM
Tcinator said:
Well... I will assume your hard drive crapped out and made SeaTools (the program itself) hang and stop functioning properly... I mean we know its bad..I know, starting to wonder whether it's the HDD or whether it could even be a motherboard/CPU issue. This is probably my "Worst Case Scenario" attitude kicking in, is there any way to make sure it's not them?
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Tcinator
July 2, 2014 1:10:20 PM
Not without expensive 3rd party diags. and even then MOBO diags are pretty shotty if its an odd hiccup.
Chris
The fact that it started recently, the links and shortcuts not working, the freezing, and the noise? everything is pretty much 1+1=2 on this one man. Short of it being some bad sectors, no.. not even that. I mean if you want to reinstall and test it out. be my guest... you could always run memtest but honestly you have the proof you need.
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I also think an issue could be my HDD, again it's only 7 months old but it's making a lot of noise when reading/writing data and sometimes the computer freezes completely when these noises are being heard. Sometimes I also have an issue where no folders or shortcuts work, yet the internet (as long as it was open before the issue first appears) works like a charm. It sounds to me like the computer is loading Chrome into the RAM before any issues occur, which is why it can run when the HDD is having issues.Chris
The fact that it started recently, the links and shortcuts not working, the freezing, and the noise? everything is pretty much 1+1=2 on this one man. Short of it being some bad sectors, no.. not even that. I mean if you want to reinstall and test it out. be my guest... you could always run memtest but honestly you have the proof you need.
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CGurrell
July 2, 2014 2:04:15 PM
Tcinator said:
Not without expensive 3rd party diags. and even then MOBO diags are pretty shotty if its an odd hiccup.CGurrell said:
I also think an issue could be my HDD, again it's only 7 months old but it's making a lot of noise when reading/writing data and sometimes the computer freezes completely when these noises are being heard. Sometimes I also have an issue where no folders or shortcuts work, yet the internet (as long as it was open before the issue first appears) works like a charm. It sounds to me like the computer is loading Chrome into the RAM before any issues occur, which is why it can run when the HDD is having issues.Chris
The fact that it started recently, the links and shortcuts not working, the freezing, and the noise? everything is pretty much 1+1=2 on this one man. Short of it being some bad sectors, no.. not even that. I mean if you want to reinstall and test it out. be my guest... you could always run memtest but honestly you have the proof you need.
Ok so somehow the Hard Drive passed the Short DST test?? http://gyazo.com/d1ef9ae2696f5e296271972a7273533d
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Tcinator
July 2, 2014 2:10:44 PM
like I said it may pass. if your feeling lucky, give it another week or so. the Short DST is a drive self test... and if your in the OS, has a tendency to pass. Run a chkdsk /f /r and the long "fix all". Hard drives are like engines in a beat up car. really hard to say "oh its not starting, well the issue is ____" its never cut and dry till it completely bites the dust 90% of the time.
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CGurrell
July 2, 2014 2:16:37 PM
Tcinator said:
like I said it may pass. if your feeling lucky, give it another week or so. the Short DST is a drive self test... and if your in the OS, has a tendency to pass. Run a chkdsk /f /r and the long "fix all". Hard drives are like engines in a beat up car. really hard to say "oh its not starting, well the issue is ____" its never cut and dry till it completely bites the dust 90% of the time.Fair enough, might run a chkdsk overnight to see if I can pinpoint any issues, but tbh I'll probably just go to the shop on Friday for a replacement. Better sort out a Windows 8.1 boot drive for when I get a new HDD lol
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Tcinator
July 2, 2014 2:33:13 PM
CGurrell
July 2, 2014 2:41:26 PM
nearly had another hard drive related disaster then as well. The portable drive which I was backing up to dropped from my table to the floor after I knocked the table with my chair (New table and chair, takes some getting used to lol). Drive hits the floor, wont connect via USB 3.0. Just connected it internally via SATA and it seems to be alright. It's a 3 year old drive in itself from a laptop that died of a CPU failure so it's gone through a lot in its lifetime, just hoping it holds out now until friday
The other thing is, my drives are set to IDE for some reason in the BIOS, if I'm changing out the drives anyway (New SSD coming as well as HDD), would it be worth me changing them to AHCI mode?
The other thing is, my drives are set to IDE for some reason in the BIOS, if I'm changing out the drives anyway (New SSD coming as well as HDD), would it be worth me changing them to AHCI mode?
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Tcinator
July 2, 2014 2:50:29 PM
CGurrell said:
nearly had another hard drive related disaster then as well. The portable drive which I was backing up to dropped from my table to the floor after I knocked the table with my chair (New table and chair, takes some getting used to lol). Drive hits the floor, wont connect via USB 3.0. Just connected it internally via SATA and it seems to be alright. It's a 3 year old drive in itself from a laptop that died of a CPU failure so it's gone through a lot in its lifetime, just hoping it holds out now until friday
The other thing is, my drives are set to IDE for some reason in the BIOS, if I'm changing out the drives anyway (New SSD coming as well as HDD), would it be worth me changing them to AHCI mode?
yes.
EDIT: literally that's the answer.
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CGurrell
July 2, 2014 3:06:51 PM
Tcinator said:
CGurrell said:
nearly had another hard drive related disaster then as well. The portable drive which I was backing up to dropped from my table to the floor after I knocked the table with my chair (New table and chair, takes some getting used to lol). Drive hits the floor, wont connect via USB 3.0. Just connected it internally via SATA and it seems to be alright. It's a 3 year old drive in itself from a laptop that died of a CPU failure so it's gone through a lot in its lifetime, just hoping it holds out now until friday
The other thing is, my drives are set to IDE for some reason in the BIOS, if I'm changing out the drives anyway (New SSD coming as well as HDD), would it be worth me changing them to AHCI mode?
yes.
EDIT: literally that's the answer.
wait what dya mean? If i switch to AHCI i should get no bugs? Won't that wipe my drives anyway though?
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bretmh
July 2, 2014 3:23:41 PM
CGurrell
July 2, 2014 3:40:16 PM
Tcinator said:
like I said it may pass. if your feeling lucky, give it another week or so. the Short DST is a drive self test... and if your in the OS, has a tendency to pass. Run a chkdsk /f /r and the long "fix all". Hard drives are like engines in a beat up car. really hard to say "oh its not starting, well the issue is ____" its never cut and dry till it completely bites the dust 90% of the time.bretmh said:
Doesn't the i5 you have , have the super boost technology or w.e? Maybe you have it enabled and don't know it.
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