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July 2, 2014 6:28:22 AM

Hey Guys,

I'm new to building, but the machine I want to create, I want to be able to play games like Day Z, Battlefield 4, Skyrim, COD, and others on better than average settings. So far this is what i came up with... is it enough? Where can i improve for the same price range?

CPU Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core $174.99 Newegg
CPU Cooler Gelid Solutions CC-Siberian-01 51.9 CFM $9.99 Newegg
Motherboard MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 $118.98 Newegg
Memory Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $79.99 Newegg
Storage Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $86.95 Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE $169.99 Newegg
Case NZXT Guardian 921 RB ATX Mid Tower $65.31 (Purchased)
Power Supply Corsair 600W ATX12V $54.99 Newegg

Already have a monitor, mouse and all the other things not listed. Any help would be appreciated

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July 2, 2014 6:33:22 AM

If you want to lower the price a little, try swapping the mobo and processor for an AMD build. I recommend the FX-6300 and up if you go AMD.
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July 2, 2014 6:37:07 AM

1. If that's a C series Power Supply, I'd upgrade to an RM series, XFX Core Edition, Seasonic M12 .... and an extra 150 watts would allow for CF and overclocking

2. The Seagate Barracuda is 30% faster and cheaper.

3. If possible, I'd try and budget an extra $65 for a 4690k and $20 more for a Hyper 212 cooler.

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July 2, 2014 6:54:53 AM

Lots of wasted money

You cannot overclock that chip so get a cheaper motherboard. One of the B85 chipsets should be fine around 70-75 dollars

That HDD is too expensive, a Western Digital Caviar Blue should save you about $30

Intels stock cooler should be fine so you could save yourself $10

With those suggestions you should save about $90 which you can put on the graphics card and maybe get a gtx 760 or R9 280X

You can also try for a better quality psu
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July 2, 2014 7:18:37 AM

Scremin34Egl said:
Lots of wasted money

You cannot overclock that chip so get a cheaper motherboard. One of the B85 chipsets should be fine around 70-75 dollars

That HDD is too expensive, a Western Digital Caviar Blue should save you about $30

Intels stock cooler should be fine so you could save yourself $10

With those suggestions you should save about $90 which you can put on the graphics card and maybe get a gtx 760 or R9 280X

You can also try for a better quality psu



Thank you! this is why I asked, I'm very new to building. I swiped out the hdd for the seagate barracuda which was suggested above you, great price for that.

as far as the graphics cards go, does the slight difference in speeds justify the price upgrade?

the psu is on sale for the 4th of july, so thats why that was the number one choice, will def look into it though.


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July 2, 2014 7:23:10 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX ($50.39 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM ($59.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II ($239.19 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Guardian 921 RB ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ($60.74 @ Amazon)
Total: $733.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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July 2, 2014 7:48:25 AM

tkone22 said:
Scremin34Egl said:
Lots of wasted money

You cannot overclock that chip so get a cheaper motherboard. One of the B85 chipsets should be fine around 70-75 dollars

That HDD is too expensive, a Western Digital Caviar Blue should save you about $30

Intels stock cooler should be fine so you could save yourself $10

With those suggestions you should save about $90 which you can put on the graphics card and maybe get a gtx 760 or R9 280X

You can also try for a better quality psu



Thank you! this is why I asked, I'm very new to building. I swiped out the hdd for the seagate barracuda which was suggested above you, great price for that.

as far as the graphics cards go, does the slight difference in speeds justify the price upgrade?

the psu is on sale for the 4th of july, so thats why that was the number one choice, will def look into it though.




The gtx 760 is about 17% faster than the R9 270 while the 280X is about 36%

IMO, I don't see a huge difference in performance between the 270 and the 760 but it is noticeable

The 280X on the other hand does have a big performance leap over the two and I think is well worth it for the money considering it's on par with a gtx 770

I would suggest you look up some benchmarking and compare the cards and decide whether the increase in performance is worth it

You can start from here:
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July 2, 2014 7:56:30 AM

As you are not going with an unlocked "K" variant Intel processor, you could stick with the stock cooler if you wish to save some money. The stock cooler is more than adequate for any normal usage. As long as you are not running synthetic benchmarks which put a non normal 100% usage on it, the temperatures will be more than fine with adequate case cooling. People will tell you that the stock cooler is junk (it is if you plan to do more than normal usage). However, if you want to eventually move up to an unlocked "K" CPU, or you just wish to have lower CPU temps, I would definitely go with a Hyper 212 Evo. It is one of the best bang for your buck air cooler and dropped my i7 4770 by over 30c while running Prime95 (again non normal usage and my temperatures were always acceptable even while hardcore gaming and rendering while on the stock cooler). I decided to go with an aftermarket cooler as I just wanted the temperatures to run a bit cooler but that was personal preference.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2

I would also fill out your case with the SP120 fans from Corsair. I have my case filled out with these and they have performed wonderfully. They are the quiet edition as well. The more fans that you can fill your case with, the more that you can turn them down and be even quieter while still maintaining the same amount of airflow.

Great choice of motherboard by the way. I am a major fan and advocate of MSI boards these days. I personally use the Mpower series in my rigs and in friend builds. It looks like your board has 3 sysfan headers so you can use these Silverstone PWM splitters (I personally use these and they function perfectly and look great). With these you can still control your PWM fans and fill out your case with as many fans as it can hold.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162026&cm_re=silverstone_pwm_splitter-_-12-162-026-_-Product

As for your power supply, could you post exactly what Corsair it is? Most Corsair PSUs are pretty rock solid but you want to make sure that you have enough support on your 12v rail for future expansion of video cards.
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July 2, 2014 8:00:05 AM

Scremin34Egl said:
Lots of wasted money

You cannot overclock that chip so get a cheaper motherboard. One of the B85 chipsets should be fine around 70-75 dollars

That HDD is too expensive, a Western Digital Caviar Blue should save you about $30

Intels stock cooler should be fine so you could save yourself $10

With those suggestions you should save about $90 which you can put on the graphics card and maybe get a gtx 760 or R9 280X

You can also try for a better quality psu


You had might as well stick with that motherboard as it gives you the features that you need and some that you may choose to utilize some day. If you ever wish to upgrade your CPU you will be set without having to switch out your motherboard as well. Sure, you may save $30 by going with a cheaper motherboard but in the long run $30 is not that much for future expansion if you wish to do so.
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July 2, 2014 8:14:12 AM

kira70591 said:
As you are not going with an unlocked "K" variant Intel processor, you could stick with the stock cooler if you wish to save some money. The stock cooler is more than adequate for any normal usage. As long as you are not running synthetic benchmarks which put a non normal 100% usage on it, the temperatures will be more than fine with adequate case cooling. People will tell you that the stock cooler is junk (it is if you plan to do more than normal usage). However, if you want to eventually move up to an unlocked "K" CPU, or you just wish to have lower CPU temps, I would definitely go with a Hyper 212 Evo. It is one of the best bang for your buck air cooler and dropped my i7 4770 by over 30c while running Prime95 (again non normal usage and my temperatures were always acceptable even while hardcore gaming and rendering while on the stock cooler). I decided to go with an aftermarket cooler as I just wanted the temperatures to run a bit cooler but that was personal preference.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2

I would also fill out your case with the SP120 fans from Corsair. I have my case filled out with these and they have performed wonderfully. They are the quiet edition as well. The more fans that you can fill your case with, the more that you can turn them down and be even quieter while still maintaining the same amount of airflow.

Great choice of motherboard by the way. I am a major fan and advocate of MSI boards these days. I personally use the Mpower series in my rigs and in friend builds. It looks like your board has 3 sysfan headers so you can use these Silverstone PWM splitters (I personally use these and they function perfectly and look great). With these you can still control your PWM fans and fill out your case with as many fans as it can hold.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162026&cm_re=silverstone_pwm_splitter-_-12-162-026-_-Product

As for your power supply, could you post exactly what Corsair it is? Most Corsair PSUs are pretty rock solid but you want to make sure that you have enough support on your 12v rail for future expansion of video cards.



the psu:
CORSAIR CX series CX600 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I agree, future upgrades on that mobo was why i initially wanted to purchase it, now i'm not so sure. I could save some cash cause im not really gonna overclock, plan is to just casual game on weekends playing DayZ, COD, and such.

this build has been such a torn battle between which is needed and which is going to blow me away while gaming
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July 2, 2014 8:21:09 AM

kira70591 said:
Scremin34Egl said:
Lots of wasted money

You cannot overclock that chip so get a cheaper motherboard. One of the B85 chipsets should be fine around 70-75 dollars

That HDD is too expensive, a Western Digital Caviar Blue should save you about $30

Intels stock cooler should be fine so you could save yourself $10

With those suggestions you should save about $90 which you can put on the graphics card and maybe get a gtx 760 or R9 280X

You can also try for a better quality psu


You had might as well stick with that motherboard as it gives you the features that you need and some that you may choose to utilize some day. If you ever wish to upgrade your CPU you will be set without having to switch out your motherboard as well. Sure, you may save $30 by going with a cheaper motherboard but in the long run $30 is not that much for future expansion if you wish to do so.


Those features are intended more for overclocking which he will not make use unless he goes for a k cpu
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July 2, 2014 9:14:49 AM

tkone22 said:
kira70591 said:
As you are not going with an unlocked "K" variant Intel processor, you could stick with the stock cooler if you wish to save some money. The stock cooler is more than adequate for any normal usage. As long as you are not running synthetic benchmarks which put a non normal 100% usage on it, the temperatures will be more than fine with adequate case cooling. People will tell you that the stock cooler is junk (it is if you plan to do more than normal usage). However, if you want to eventually move up to an unlocked "K" CPU, or you just wish to have lower CPU temps, I would definitely go with a Hyper 212 Evo. It is one of the best bang for your buck air cooler and dropped my i7 4770 by over 30c while running Prime95 (again non normal usage and my temperatures were always acceptable even while hardcore gaming and rendering while on the stock cooler). I decided to go with an aftermarket cooler as I just wanted the temperatures to run a bit cooler but that was personal preference.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2

I would also fill out your case with the SP120 fans from Corsair. I have my case filled out with these and they have performed wonderfully. They are the quiet edition as well. The more fans that you can fill your case with, the more that you can turn them down and be even quieter while still maintaining the same amount of airflow.

Great choice of motherboard by the way. I am a major fan and advocate of MSI boards these days. I personally use the Mpower series in my rigs and in friend builds. It looks like your board has 3 sysfan headers so you can use these Silverstone PWM splitters (I personally use these and they function perfectly and look great). With these you can still control your PWM fans and fill out your case with as many fans as it can hold.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162026&cm_re=silverstone_pwm_splitter-_-12-162-026-_-Product

As for your power supply, could you post exactly what Corsair it is? Most Corsair PSUs are pretty rock solid but you want to make sure that you have enough support on your 12v rail for future expansion of video cards.



the psu:
CORSAIR CX series CX600 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I agree, future upgrades on that mobo was why i initially wanted to purchase it, now i'm not so sure. I could save some cash cause im not really gonna overclock, plan is to just casual game on weekends playing DayZ, COD, and such.

this build has been such a torn battle between which is needed and which is going to blow me away while gaming


That power supply should be more than adequate; however, if you plan to SLI I would beef up it up a little and go with either an AX series or RM series from Corsair. The CS series is more for basic builds or single card use.

If you can spend the extra money I would get the modular version of the one you listed. It is a little more expensive, especially after the savings you are getting with the other one, but you could save a lot of cable management headache by getting a modular version.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048

If you do not mind the extra cable and have a decent amount of room in the case for cable management then do not worry about it.

You can SLI with the power supply that you listed as it has 2 x 6 pin + 2 cables for PCIe connections. Just watch how much power you are going to draw. If you plan to go with super high end cards then another power supply such as the AX or RM would be recommended.
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July 2, 2014 7:57:39 PM

tkone22 said:
the psu:
CORSAIR CX series CX600 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I agree, future upgrades on that mobo was why i initially wanted to purchase it, now i'm not so sure. I could save some cash cause im not really gonna overclock, plan is to just casual game on weekends playing DayZ, COD, and such.

this build has been such a torn battle between which is needed and which is going to blow me away while gaming


Again, I'd recommend that you avoid Corsair C series PSUs....when you see every review stating that it is a good PSU "for the money", that means it's fine for light office app duty, it's find for grandma to share pictures of grandkids.....I would not venture to use it in a gaming or enthusiast build.... its caps are simply not up tot he task and there's a reason it gets a 7 Build Quality rating from jonnyguru.

Here's the CX 600 on Smoke
http://www.overclock.net/t/1470731/corsair-cx600-psu-on...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-b...


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