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July 2, 2014 8:23:25 AM

So I wanted to start out saying thanks in advance for all the help you guys provide here. Not all people are tech savvy, and it is nice to know that there are people out there to help.

Currently I am gaming on an old (3 years) college computer (HP Pavilion Elite HPE 400f). I got tired of slowly moving the settings sliders down each month and caved in, buying two upgrades.

I purchased a new Graphics Card (R9 270X) and a new Power Supply (Thermaltake Smart M M850W).

My system has been working pretty well but I've got a dedicated sum of money that can be used on some fundamental upgrades; and I think it might be time to just build a new rig. I am really trying to salvage as much as possible from my current rig.

I'm pretty sure that I could use some online videos to build the rig. I just have zero standing knowledge and familiarity on what components it needs.

Here are some hopefully helpful links.

Current Rig Specs
R9 270X Specs
Thermaltake Smart M850W Specs

Mostly I play games like WoW, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, and Marvel Heroes with my wife and son. Not the most overly intensive games. But I prefer to play on max settings and to not have my CPU or peripherals go out of date in 3 months.

Any help provided would be greatly appreciated. My target is to find a way to utilize some of the existing hardware in my rig along with some newly purchased hardware to rebuild a relatively strong gaming computer.

Thanks!
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July 2, 2014 8:33:49 AM

What is your budget?

I cannot make any recommendations or builds without a budget.
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July 2, 2014 8:48:18 AM

TechyInAZ said:
What is your budget?

I cannot make any recommendations or builds without a budget.


Sorry about that, I'm looking for some advice on that aspect as well. I'm far less experienced with how much things cost and where the best bang for my buck is so to speak. I'd like to see something from $600 to $1k. I had thought that was a reasonable range considering I'm trying to salvage as much as possible from my old rig.

I had also considered that having some people post budget rigs and high dollar rigs would be advantageous for me from a compare and contrast point of view. Not to mention that the opinions of other more experienced users will have a large impact on my overall budget.

Thanks for taking the time to respond!
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 8:59:37 AM

Your welcome, Ill whip something up.

Also do you want a mini itx case? or a big desktop tower?
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 9:01:32 AM

Hey Chief, I put together an upgrade system for you. Assuming you want to reuse your case, GPU, and PSU this will give you good performance over your existing system. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qdvTzy For just a bit more you can get a new case with better air flow to keep the new stuff cool.

Here is the complete system to keep you going for several years. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MCtjNG
This case here is the same size you currently have with better flow.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 9:08:42 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VjbqBm

This is a mini itx build so it's going to be a small pc. (however it can hold huge graphics cards and PSUS)

I didn't put the psu and gpu in since you already have those.

I put in a SSD since that will really speed up things. And put windows 8.1 in.

Also, let me know if for some reason you want a MicroATX or a standard ATX build for some reason.

Also, I put some higher quality parts in this build so it would last longer. Which is why it's more expensive.
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July 2, 2014 9:15:25 AM

TechyInAZ said:
Your welcome, Ill whip something up.

Also do you want a mini itx case? or a big desktop tower?


I really would like to buy another case. The graphics card alone that I have at the moment leaves almost no room for airflow. Also I'm not sure what a Mini itx case is... :( 
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 9:21:32 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That is the mini itx case I got you the Corsair 250D. Mini itx are extremely small form factors, so you can carry them around if need be.

The Corsair 250D is one of the few cases that can hold a full size graphics card (r9 290X/gtx titan Black size) and a full 240mm radiator if need be.

It's basically can fit all the desktop components you would find in your standard ATX system into a small itx form factor.

It also has great airflow for such a tiny case.
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July 2, 2014 9:22:21 AM

Gorgonzer said:
Hey Chief, I put together an upgrade system for you. Assuming you want to reuse your case, GPU, and PSU this will give you good performance over your existing system. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qdvTzy For just a bit more you can get a new case with better air flow to keep the new stuff cool.

Here is the complete system to keep you going for several years. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MCtjNG
This case here is the same size you currently have with better flow.


Is there any reason why I would replace my current rigs 1TB 7200 rpm Hard drive with another?
Also the same question about my dvd rewriter burner?

I would rather not spend extra money on parts that are already present. If there is some technical reason for buying replacements then I apologize in advance. I am trying to upgrade my system by salvaging some practical hardware while tossing the rest.

Thanks!

Edit: Also is there a good reason to rebuy windows? I already have windows 7 with a valid key on my current rig. Maybe to upgrade the OS?
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July 2, 2014 9:24:38 AM

Ibechief said:
Gorgonzer said:
Hey Chief, I put together an upgrade system for you. Assuming you want to reuse your case, GPU, and PSU this will give you good performance over your existing system. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qdvTzy For just a bit more you can get a new case with better air flow to keep the new stuff cool.

Here is the complete system to keep you going for several years. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MCtjNG
This case here is the same size you currently have with better flow.


Is there any reason why I would replace my current rigs 1TB 7200 rpm Hard drive with another?
Also the same question about my dvd rewriter burner?

I would rather not spend extra money on parts that are already present. If there is some technical reason for buying replacements then I apologize in advance. I am trying to upgrade my system by salvaging some practical hardware while tossing the rest.

Thanks!



Oh, I didn't know you already had a 1TB HDD and a optical drive. If that's the case, just get rid of those in my build and save the cash.
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July 2, 2014 9:30:03 AM

The connections on those are SATA not SATA3 so the speed at which data is moved is considerably slower. 1.2GBs compared to 6GBs. Also, when changing motherboards the OS on your existing HD will not work properly. You can however reformat and use it for basic storage of music, pics, data in the new system, just at the slower data rate.
Hope that helps clear things up!
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July 2, 2014 9:35:34 AM

TechyInAZ said:
Ibechief said:
Gorgonzer said:
Hey Chief, I put together an upgrade system for you. Assuming you want to reuse your case, GPU, and PSU this will give you good performance over your existing system. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qdvTzy For just a bit more you can get a new case with better air flow to keep the new stuff cool.

Here is the complete system to keep you going for several years. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MCtjNG
This case here is the same size you currently have with better flow.


Is there any reason why I would replace my current rigs 1TB 7200 rpm Hard drive with another?
Also the same question about my dvd rewriter burner?

I would rather not spend extra money on parts that are already present. If there is some technical reason for buying replacements then I apologize in advance. I am trying to upgrade my system by salvaging some practical hardware while tossing the rest.

Thanks!



Oh, I didn't know you already had a 1TB HDD and a optical drive. If that's the case, just get rid of those in my build and save the cash.


My wife has an I7 in her laptop is there any particular reason to buy an I5 CPU over the I7? And I have plenty of room for a large tower case, In time I suppose I'll be getting a second graphics card to use Crossfire? Should I be shopping for a larger case now to support it?
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July 2, 2014 9:39:49 AM

I5 is all you need for a gaming PC. If you do any hard number crunching programs or operations than the hypertheading on the I7's help for that stuff. If you dont plan on moving your case around the bigger cases promote better airflow.
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July 2, 2014 9:42:08 AM

Ibechief said:
TechyInAZ said:
Ibechief said:
Gorgonzer said:
Hey Chief, I put together an upgrade system for you. Assuming you want to reuse your case, GPU, and PSU this will give you good performance over your existing system. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qdvTzy For just a bit more you can get a new case with better air flow to keep the new stuff cool.

Here is the complete system to keep you going for several years. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MCtjNG
This case here is the same size you currently have with better flow.


Is there any reason why I would replace my current rigs 1TB 7200 rpm Hard drive with another?
Also the same question about my dvd rewriter burner?

I would rather not spend extra money on parts that are already present. If there is some technical reason for buying replacements then I apologize in advance. I am trying to upgrade my system by salvaging some practical hardware while tossing the rest.

Thanks!



Oh, I didn't know you already had a 1TB HDD and a optical drive. If that's the case, just get rid of those in my build and save the cash.


My wife has an I7 in her laptop is there any particular reason to buy an I5 CPU over the I7? And I have plenty of room for a large tower case, In time I suppose I'll be getting a second graphics card to use Crossfire? Should I be shopping for a larger case now to support it?


No, the i5 Quad Cores are more than enough for gaming.

Plus, the i7 in your wifes laptop is a laptop cpu, meaning it's slower than it's desktop counterpart.
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July 2, 2014 9:44:21 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jxkFK8
If you want to bite the bullet and get a single better card than go with this build and sell the 270x while its got value. A high end single card will outperform 2 mid range cards in crossfire with out the extra power draw and heat from a second card.
Ubgraded to the 8core on this build as well.
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July 2, 2014 9:47:25 AM

Gorgonzer said:
The connections on those are SATA not SATA3 so the speed at which data is moved is considerably slower. 1.2GBs compared to 6GBs. Also, when changing motherboards the OS on your existing HD will not work properly. You can however reformat and use it for basic storage of music, pics, data in the new system, just at the slower data rate.
Hope that helps clear things up!


Wow, that really stinks. The only time I really care about speed is when I am playing games and maybe surfing the web. Would it be possible to keep the 1 TB drive that I have, and to get a larger size SSD to keep the speed fast for the things that I have concerns about?

Also is it possible to just reinstall windows in the new pc rather than buying a new copy? Granted I don't have a windows disk at all but there has to be a way to get it?
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July 2, 2014 9:52:48 AM

Ibechief said:
Gorgonzer said:
The connections on those are SATA not SATA3 so the speed at which data is moved is considerably slower. 1.2GBs compared to 6GBs. Also, when changing motherboards the OS on your existing HD will not work properly. You can however reformat and use it for basic storage of music, pics, data in the new system, just at the slower data rate.
Hope that helps clear things up!


Wow, that really stinks. The only time I really care about speed is when I am playing games and maybe surfing the web. Would it be possible to keep the 1 TB drive that I have, and to get a larger size SSD to keep the speed fast for the things that I have concerns about?

Also is it possible to just reinstall windows in the new pc rather than buying a new copy? Granted I don't have a windows disk at all but there has to be a way to get it?



The OS install on your existing HD will not recognize your new equipment. The OS flashes a system spec when it first installs and if you change MB the specs wont match and it will not work. I know this from personal experience.
I assumed the same thing when I upgraded my first system.

And yes, the SSD can carry your new OS and program files.
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July 2, 2014 10:08:09 AM

TechyInAZ said:


No, the i5 Quad Cores are more than enough for gaming.

Plus, the i7 in your wifes laptop is a laptop cpu, meaning it's slower than it's desktop counterpart.


Ok, what about the 8 gigs of RAM. I have 8 gigs of RAM in my system now. Should I be upgrading to 16 gigs?

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July 2, 2014 10:11:27 AM

Gorgonzer said:


And yes, the SSD can carry your new OS and program files.


Would it be preferable to get a larger SSD? Then just keep my old hard drive and use it when I do not mind slower speeds? If I do need to upgrade the Hard drive can I keep the slower optical drive?

Sorry for all the questions. I want to ask all the questions I can before I buy anything. I noticed those cases are really cheap as well. Are they decent cases or am I forgoing something nice for the sake of price?
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July 2, 2014 10:14:01 AM

I suppose you could use it. 1600 speed is ideal for gaming, but 1333 is only 1 step down. Thats gonna be a personal choice for you to make. The existing ram will work in the new system. 8gig is ideal for gaming and most computing will not use anymore. If you plan on doing a bunch of rendering of video and the like 16g might be an option for you. But it sounds like 8 is plenty.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 10:22:22 AM

You can reuse the optical. New is only 14$. Well worth that. A 240g SSD will get your OS and all of your Blizzard titles on there. With the rest of your storage on the old HDD will work. Dont install the old one when you first start it up. Get the new OS running and updated then install the old and remove the OS. That will keep all your pics, videos, docs intact.
Case is good. Cases are a matter of choice. Most sub 75$ cases are pretty much the same. USB3 on the front is nice to have.
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July 2, 2014 10:26:03 AM

Gorgonzer said:
I suppose you could use it. 1600 speed is ideal for gaming, but 1333 is only 1 step down. Thats gonna be a personal choice for you to make. The existing ram will work in the new system. 8gig is ideal for gaming and most computing will not use anymore. If you plan on doing a bunch of rendering of video and the like 16g might be an option for you. But it sounds like 8 is plenty.


Gorgonzer said:
You can reuse the optical. New is only 14$. Well worth that. A 240g SSD will get your OS and all of your Blizzard titles on there. With the rest of your storage on the old HDD will work. Dont install the old one when you first start it up. Get the new OS running and updated then install the old and remove the OS. That will keep all your pics, videos, docs intact.
Case is good. Cases are a matter of choice. Most sub 75$ cases are pretty much the same. USB3 on the front is nice to have.


Is it possible for you to update the link to a build reflecting the changes we have talked about? I tried to do so myself and that website looks like Greek to me :p 

14$ seems like it is worth it to reduce the number of old parts and potential failure in the future.
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July 2, 2014 10:28:56 AM

What model 270x do you have?
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July 2, 2014 10:35:11 AM

Gorgonzer said:
What model 270x do you have?


Model No: R9-270X-CD
Part No: R9-270X-CDFR

It says it is an XFX DD Radeon R9 270X 1050M Boost 2GB D5
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 10:43:02 AM

Good card. I got a link up for the build I think would best suit your wants. I also included a second with an additional 270x for Xfire.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xQN3mG
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YLncRB
Your PSU will handle both just fine. This build will be cool and quiet with years of great gaming. This is a silent case set up! And its beautiful.
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July 2, 2014 10:53:12 AM

Gorgonzer said:
Good card. I got a link up for the build I think would best suit your wants. I also included a second with an additional 270x for Xfire.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xQN3mG
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YLncRB
Your PSU will handle both just fine. This build will be cool and quiet with years of great gaming. This is a silent case set up! And its beautiful.


Currently I have 4x 2gb cards of RAM. Will the new motherboard hold all 4, and is it better to just spend the 75$ for the new 1600 speed RAM that is only 2x 4 gbs? I just don't know if it would be better to limp by a little on the 2gb's waiting for the upgrade to 16gbs later when it is needed.

I just don't know enough about this stuff :( 

Edit: Also how does this processor compare to Intel processors? I'm not familiar with AMD anymore.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 10:59:14 AM

If you have the extra in your budget for the 1600. I would go with that. Easier on the system to run 2 4g sticks than the 4 2g sticks. Also less hardware to go bad. New with the Ram added. With and without the xtra GPU
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/26FzFT
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DkPjNG
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 11:06:45 AM

Processing power is comparable. There are things that each do better than the other. For gaming the cost savings is in favor of the AMD. Games are much more GPU dependent than CPU. You can also over clock the AMD to 4.4+ if you like that kind of thing. The MB is well suited for overclocking. The CPU cooler is also good for that.

Just checked the system against Watch Dogs which is the newest big title out and you system will play it no problem with a score of 29 out of a possible 30. Blizzard titles will play great for years to come. Im a blizzard fanboy myself!
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July 2, 2014 11:25:17 AM

Gorgonzer said:
Processing power is comparable. There are things that each do better than the other. For gaming the cost savings is in favor of the AMD. Games are much more GPU dependent than CPU. You can also over clock the AMD to 4.4+ if you like that kind of thing. The MB is well suited for overclocking. The CPU cooler is also good for that.

Just checked the system against Watch Dogs which is the newest big title out and you system will play it no problem with a score of 29 out of a possible 30. Blizzard titles will play great for years to come. Im a blizzard fanboy myself!


I am talking to windows tech support about getting windows on my new build and they told me that I could use a bootdisk of my windows to avoid buying a new copy. Have you heard of this?

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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 11:29:54 AM

If you have a boot disk you may be able to. But HP does not send one usually. You would get charged from HP to get one.
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July 2, 2014 11:34:13 AM

Gorgonzer said:
If you have a boot disk you may be able to. But HP does not send one usually. You would get charged from HP to get one.


The support guy told me to go here. http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/artic...

and just make my own. I'm not sure how any of this works. But If I can save on windows I can spring for the second GFX card.
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July 2, 2014 12:45:21 PM

Ok, I got the windows thing figured out. So how do I go about buying all this stuff?
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 1:11:10 PM

Just click buy on the item from each vendor. If multiple items are from 1 vendor put all in the cart and checkout accordingly. Do that fir each vendor.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 1:12:51 PM

Just click buy on the item from each vendor. If multiple items are from 1 vendor put all in the cart and checkout accordingly. Do that fir each vendor.
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July 2, 2014 1:14:48 PM

Gorgonzer said:
Just click buy on the item from each vendor. If multiple items are from 1 vendor put all in the cart and checkout accordingly. Do that fir each vendor.


I was afraid of that. Do I need to get anything else? I'm not sure if there is anything required to assemble the components once they arrive? Thermal grease, wires or harness, maybe a case of beer?

Edit: what about a wired network adapter? Is it built in?
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2014 3:09:08 PM

The wireless adapter from the old pc will work fine. Everything you need will come in the boxes. Watch a video or two on each of the components to farmiliaize yourself with them. Msg me if you get hung up on assembly day!
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July 2, 2014 6:43:53 PM

Gorgonzer said:
The wireless adapter from the old pc will work fine. Everything you need will come in the boxes. Watch a video or two on each of the components to farmiliaize yourself with them. Msg me if you get hung up on assembly day!


Thanks I bought everything on the list, the extra gfx card for Crossfire, and a second set of 2x 4gb ram chips!

I can't wait!
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July 2, 2014 6:49:38 PM

Good to hear. Like I said, everything you need should be in the packaging. Ground yourself on something metal before you go handling the MB, GPU, etc. Let us know how it goes!
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July 8, 2014 2:28:21 PM

So, I just got my motherboard in and found some things that are really confusing. I got this motherboard based on recomendations that it would be a good buy and that it would work with my 2x R9 270x Gfx cards. Apperantly though this motherboard only has a x16 and a x4 slot for PCIe.

From what I can tell this will provide horrible crossfire results. Am I misinterpreting what I am reading or do I have a motherboard issue?
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July 8, 2014 2:42:00 PM

Ibechief said:
So, I just got my motherboard in and found some things that are really confusing. I got this motherboard based on recomendations that it would be a good buy and that it would work with my 2x R9 270x Gfx cards. Apperantly though this motherboard only has a x16 and a x4 slot for PCIe.

From what I can tell this will provide horrible crossfire results. Am I misinterpreting what I am reading or do I have a motherboard issue?

In crossfire they will run out of the 16x side and you will get the benefit of the second card. If you were to only install1 in the 4x slot it would not perform at the 16x speed. Hope this helps.
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July 8, 2014 2:45:33 PM

Gorgonzer said:

In crossfire they will run out of the 16x side and you will get the benefit of the second card. If you were to only install1 in the 4x slot it would not perform at the 16x speed. Hope this helps.


I'm not sure I understand what that means? I put one card in the 16x slot and where do I put the other? The remaining options are all lower bandwidth?
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July 8, 2014 2:53:22 PM

Ibechief said:
Gorgonzer said:

In crossfire they will run out of the 16x side and you will get the benefit of the second card. If you were to only install1 in the 4x slot it would not perform at the 16x speed. Hope this helps.


I'm not sure I understand what that means? I put one card in the 16x slot and where do I put the other? The remaining options are all lower bandwidth?


The slot with the 4x will be a bit slower on the clock but not by much. You wont notice any difference in performance. Sorry for not bringing that to your attention before.

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July 8, 2014 3:02:13 PM

Most crossfire "nightmare" stories involve some sort of stutter. I just thought that having two different speeds would be prime suspect for future stutter issues.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 8, 2014 3:08:11 PM

After a bit of digging. I have found that a MB with 16x and 4x slots are comparable in speed to a MB with 2 16x slots due to the fact that the duel 16x slots share the lane making them in essence run at 8x. The difference in FPS on games is 4-9 fps depending on the game. The price difference to go up to a MB with 2 16x slots actually running 8x in crossfire is 50-80$. Sorry if I miss led you in anyway.
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July 8, 2014 3:10:25 PM

Ibechief said:
Most crossfire "nightmare" stories involve some sort of stutter. I just thought that having two different speeds would be prime suspect for future stutter issues.



Alot of the stutter issues are due to crappy PSU's not delivering constant power.
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July 8, 2014 4:47:01 PM

Gorgonzer said:
Ibechief said:
Most crossfire "nightmare" stories involve some sort of stutter. I just thought that having two different speeds would be prime suspect for future stutter issues.



Alot of the stutter issues are due to crappy PSU's not delivering constant power.


Haha! Now you have me scared about my power supply! It is only 80 Bronze... So much information to assimilate and it seems like I only learn enough to be confused!

Thanks for the insight!
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July 9, 2014 9:32:19 AM

Ibechief said:
Gorgonzer said:
Ibechief said:
Most crossfire "nightmare" stories involve some sort of stutter. I just thought that having two different speeds would be prime suspect for future stutter issues.



Alot of the stutter issues are due to crappy PSU's not delivering constant power.


Haha! Now you have me scared about my power supply! It is only 80 Bronze... So much information to assimilate and it seems like I only learn enough to be confused!

Thanks for the insight!


No worries, we checked your PSU at the start. Its a good quality PSU with a single 70A rail. You'll be fine. Alot of the problems with cheap PSU's are that they use cheap caps and several small rails like 4x20A rails that dont allow all the power to be available to all components. So if the GPU's are calling for 25A each in your case, the rails dont have the capacity to give the power they need resulting in screen tear. Your PSU has all the power on the same rail so as power demand rises, the single rail can give it.
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July 9, 2014 9:48:29 AM

Gorgonzer said:


No worries, we checked your PSU at the start. Its a good quality PSU with a single 70A rail. You'll be fine. Alot of the problems with cheap PSU's are that they use cheap caps and several small rails like 4x20A rails that dont allow all the power to be available to all components. So if the GPU's are calling for 25A each in your case, the rails dont have the capacity to give the power they need resulting in screen tear. Your PSU has all the power on the same rail so as power demand rises, the single rail can give it.


That is good to hear. I have been on the phone with Newegg trying to get an RMA for my case. The left door had a nice sized chunk of missing paint in one corner. Probably a manufacturing defect. While I'm at it I think I'll order two more of those big 140mm fans. I love this case, very clean looking. Still waiting on the SSD and the Cooler for my CPU.

By the way Where does the cooler mount? To the processor directly or to the heat sink on the processor? Also where do I mount the fan/radiator combo? To the case or do I substitute a fan for the combo and mount it that way?

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July 9, 2014 10:07:11 AM

Ibechief said:
Gorgonzer said:


No worries, we checked your PSU at the start. Its a good quality PSU with a single 70A rail. You'll be fine. Alot of the problems with cheap PSU's are that they use cheap caps and several small rails like 4x20A rails that dont allow all the power to be available to all components. So if the GPU's are calling for 25A each in your case, the rails dont have the capacity to give the power they need resulting in screen tear. Your PSU has all the power on the same rail so as power demand rises, the single rail can give it.


That is good to hear. I have been on the phone with Newegg trying to get an RMA for my case. The left door had a nice sized chunk of missing paint in one corner. Probably a manufacturing defect. While I'm at it I think I'll order two more of those big 140mm fans. I love this case, very clean looking. Still waiting on the SSD and the Cooler for my CPU.

By the way Where does the cooler mount? To the processor directly or to the heat sink on the processor? Also where do I mount the fan/radiator combo? To the case or do I substitute a fan for the combo and mount it that way?



You got the H60 right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBoCzJrxtBM Install video from Corsair
You got the 2 extra fans with your original order right? So you should have 4 total 140mm fans. 2 for the top exhaust, and 2 in the front intake. There is one installed on the back. Remove it and put it in front. Put the 2 new ones in the top. That should be all the fans you need. The cpu fan/radiator will go on the back where the factory one was. Just watch the video.
You don't use the cooler that came with your cpu. The waterblock will mount to the MB over your processor.
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July 9, 2014 10:44:23 AM

Gorgonzer said:


You got the H60 right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBoCzJrxtBM Install video from Corsair
You got the 2 extra fans with your original order right? So you should have 4 total 140mm fans. 2 for the top exhaust, and 2 in the front intake. There is one installed on the back. Remove it and put it in front. Put the 2 new ones in the top. That should be all the fans you need. The cpu fan/radiator will go on the back where the factory one was. Just watch the video.
You don't use the cooler that came with your cpu. The waterblock will mount to the MB over your processor.


Wow. I did not realize how large that cooler and radiator is! That video explained everything pretty well for me. As for the extra fans. The case you picked out for me has 7 fan locations.

1 side fan.
2 top fans.
2 front fans.
1 bottom fan.
1 rear fan.

If 1 of them is used by the CPU water cooler that leaves 6 more spots. It comes with 2, and I originally bought 2 more with all the other hardware. Because I'll have to wait 3 days for another case to be sent I figured I would have them throw 2 more fans into the box and ship them as well.

From what I could tell the fans are whisper quiet, but have lower than average static pressures. So the more the better for cooling two GfX cards. The real question for me is how do I configure the direction of flow for these fans?

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