Why do they still make 3rd gen intel processors?
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Durfurbrains247
July 2, 2014 10:14:50 AM
So I was on an extremely tight budget when I built my first gaming pc and did not know much at the time either. I bought a i5 3570 and a msi b75a-g43 for my motherboard. I bought this board not knowing what limitations i would run into in the near future. For example, i cannot use raid, i cant sli, and overclock(when i upgrade to a k version cpu). So looking on a newegg I find a slim to no selection of socket 1155 motherboards. I understand they don't make many because of the jump to 1150 because of haswell. But i guess my question is this, why does Intel still sell the 3rd gen cpu's if finding a good motherboard for it is almost impossible. Please let me know if i am being a complete moron or am missing something but i can't seem to force my self to have to upgrade to haswell just to get a new board.
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Mustangrock12
July 2, 2014 10:20:51 AM
Those limitations are to do with the motherboard chipset (B75) rather than the socket (1155).
With a Z77 motherboard you can do SLI and overclock. I'm unsure as to why you didn't buy a K series 3570 initially but whatever. I can't comment on RAID though, personally have no experience with it. They'll sell the 3rd series to get rid of the stock - it's all profit after all.
What's your budget for a new motherboard? I'll see if I can find you one.
EDIT: For now, here's this: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77ext...
Overclocking, RAID, and SLI support.
With a Z77 motherboard you can do SLI and overclock. I'm unsure as to why you didn't buy a K series 3570 initially but whatever. I can't comment on RAID though, personally have no experience with it. They'll sell the 3rd series to get rid of the stock - it's all profit after all.
What's your budget for a new motherboard? I'll see if I can find you one.
EDIT: For now, here's this: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77ext...
Overclocking, RAID, and SLI support.
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Durfurbrains247
July 2, 2014 10:31:50 AM
JOOK-D said:
Those limitations are to do with the motherboard chipset (B75) rather than the socket (1155).With a Z77 motherboard you can do SLI and overclock. I'm unsure as to why you didn't buy a K series 3570 initially but whatever. I can't comment on RAID though, personally have no experience with it. They'll sell the 3rd series to get rid of the stock - it's all profit after all.
If you have no past experience with them please don't waste your time, ill look into it my self.
What's your budget for a new motherboard? I'll see if I can find you one.
EDIT: For now, here's this: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77ext...
Overclocking, RAID, and SLI support.
Thank you for the reply, i originally didn't by the k version because i was a noob and thought "Ill never overlcock", then i learned the benefits, and i was on such a tight budget that 20 bucks meant the world lol. But im thinking around 150 would be my budget if i could find a nice board. I have looked at the asrock you linked to below, is asrock a good brand, never had any friends deal with them.(I'm starting to feel i should have put this in the motherboard section)
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titanHUNTER
July 2, 2014 11:59:18 AM
How long ago did you build your current rig? The reason I ask is because I always recommend to first time builders when purchasing parts to think long-term with upgrading in mind!
I will even suggest spending more now (extra $20 here, extra $40 there), for components that can handle upgrades. Instead of spending hundreds later for an entirely new CPU, GPU and/or motherboard.
You live and learn. Just warn future builders about your experiences. I certainly wish someone had warned me. I had to buy an entirely new case because after I got my second r9-270x, they began overheating. Did not know how important the side panel VGA fan is to keeping your system cool and stable! Trust me, I had other blunders, but that is the topic of another thread!
I will even suggest spending more now (extra $20 here, extra $40 there), for components that can handle upgrades. Instead of spending hundreds later for an entirely new CPU, GPU and/or motherboard.
You live and learn. Just warn future builders about your experiences. I certainly wish someone had warned me. I had to buy an entirely new case because after I got my second r9-270x, they began overheating. Did not know how important the side panel VGA fan is to keeping your system cool and stable! Trust me, I had other blunders, but that is the topic of another thread!
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titanHUNTER
July 2, 2014 12:05:59 PM
Regarding SLI, most Intel boards do not have two pcie x16 lanes that can run dual x16. So in other words, another GPU and both GPUs will be throttled down due to the limited bandwidth. That may affect your performance.
I would leave the discussion open for those who run Crossfire/SLI with dual x8 lanes regarding performance. I have not experienced anything but MUCH IMPROVED gaming performance since crossfiring my 270x's with dual x16 pcie slots.
I would leave the discussion open for those who run Crossfire/SLI with dual x8 lanes regarding performance. I have not experienced anything but MUCH IMPROVED gaming performance since crossfiring my 270x's with dual x16 pcie slots.
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Durfurbrains247
July 2, 2014 12:22:33 PM
titanHUNTER said:
How long ago did you build your current rig? The reason I ask is because I always recommend to first time builders when purchasing parts to think long-term with upgrading in mind!I will even suggest spending more now (extra $20 here, extra $40 there), for components that can handle upgrades. Instead of spending hundreds later for an entirely new CPU, GPU and/or motherboard.
You live and learn. Just warn future builders about your experiences. I certainly wish someone had warned me. I had to buy an entirely new case because after I got my second r9-270x, they began overheating. Did not know how important the side panel VGA fan is to keeping your system cool and stable! Trust me, I had other blunders, but that is the topic of another thread!
I built my pc about 2 years back, since then I have gained boat loads of knowledge and couldn't agree with you more, I wish I would have saved my money for another 6 months before building so I didn't have issues to worry about like I am now.
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titanHUNTER
July 2, 2014 12:27:24 PM
LOL
You would not believe the other day in a forum two Intel fanboys convinced a naive first builder to purchase an i3 over the FX-6300 for gaming!! I tried my best to plead with the guy. I even told him that if he didn't want AMD that's fine, but at least wait a few more months until he could afford to get an i5!! He will learn just like we did! LOL
You would not believe the other day in a forum two Intel fanboys convinced a naive first builder to purchase an i3 over the FX-6300 for gaming!! I tried my best to plead with the guy. I even told him that if he didn't want AMD that's fine, but at least wait a few more months until he could afford to get an i5!! He will learn just like we did! LOL
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Mustangrock12
July 2, 2014 12:30:17 PM
titanHUNTER said:
LOLYou would not believe the other day in a forum two Intel fanboys convinced a naive first builder to purchase an i3 over the FX-6300 for gaming!! I tried my best to plead with the guy. I even told him that if he didn't want AMD that's fine, but at least wait a few more months until he could afford to get an i5!! He will learn just like we did! LOL
Thanks for the passive aggressive comment about me.
I even provided you with benchmarks in that thread where the i3 outperformed the FX time and time again
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Mustangrock12
July 2, 2014 12:37:14 PM
Durfurbrains247
July 2, 2014 12:38:06 PM
titanHUNTER said:
LOLYou would not believe the other day in a forum two Intel fanboys convinced a naive first builder to purchase an i3 over the FX-6300 for gaming!! I tried my best to plead with the guy. I even told him that if he didn't want AMD that's fine, but at least wait a few more months until he could afford to get an i5!! He will learn just like we did! LOL
Lol its sad people have to persuade people to buy parts just because its a certain brand and not because of price to performance. Like I try to tell people who are building a computer, do i like intel and nvidia, yes, but if you want to spend less or around 500 bucks, build an amd based build and with the money you saved by a decent water cooler and overclock it too be just as fast as an intel processor.
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Durfurbrains247 said:
titanHUNTER said:
LOLYou would not believe the other day in a forum two Intel fanboys convinced a naive first builder to purchase an i3 over the FX-6300 for gaming!! I tried my best to plead with the guy. I even told him that if he didn't want AMD that's fine, but at least wait a few more months until he could afford to get an i5!! He will learn just like we did! LOL
Lol its sad people have to persuade people to buy parts just because its a certain brand and not because of price to performance. Like I try to tell people who are building a computer, do i like intel and nvidia, yes, but if you want to spend less or around 500 bucks, build an amd based build and with the money you saved by a decent water cooler and overclock it too be just as fast as an intel processor.
Here's the thread they were referring to.
Have a read: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2199660/low-bu...
Also you won't save any money if you buy a water cooler. That negates all of your 'savings'.
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Mustangrock12
July 2, 2014 12:44:07 PM
Durfurbrains247
July 2, 2014 12:53:22 PM
JOOK-D said:
Durfurbrains247 said:
titanHUNTER said:
LOLYou would not believe the other day in a forum two Intel fanboys convinced a naive first builder to purchase an i3 over the FX-6300 for gaming!! I tried my best to plead with the guy. I even told him that if he didn't want AMD that's fine, but at least wait a few more months until he could afford to get an i5!! He will learn just like we did! LOL
Lol its sad people have to persuade people to buy parts just because its a certain brand and not because of price to performance. Like I try to tell people who are building a computer, do i like intel and nvidia, yes, but if you want to spend less or around 500 bucks, build an amd based build and with the money you saved by a decent water cooler and overclock it too be just as fast as an intel processor.
Here's the thread they were referring to.
Have a read: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2199660/low-bu...
Also you won't save any money if you buy a water cooler. That negates all of your 'savings'.
Sorry if I came acorss like trying to start a intel vs. amd war here I am not and in my opinion its whatever you like better or works for you get it.
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Durfurbrains247 said:
JOOK-D said:
Durfurbrains247 said:
titanHUNTER said:
LOLYou would not believe the other day in a forum two Intel fanboys convinced a naive first builder to purchase an i3 over the FX-6300 for gaming!! I tried my best to plead with the guy. I even told him that if he didn't want AMD that's fine, but at least wait a few more months until he could afford to get an i5!! He will learn just like we did! LOL
Lol its sad people have to persuade people to buy parts just because its a certain brand and not because of price to performance. Like I try to tell people who are building a computer, do i like intel and nvidia, yes, but if you want to spend less or around 500 bucks, build an amd based build and with the money you saved by a decent water cooler and overclock it too be just as fast as an intel processor.
Here's the thread they were referring to.
Have a read: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2199660/low-bu...
Also you won't save any money if you buy a water cooler. That negates all of your 'savings'.
Sorry if I came acorss like trying to start a intel vs. amd war here I am not and in my opinion its whatever you like better or works for you get it.
Not your fault. There's always someone who gets their feelings hurt and tries to start something.
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Mustangrock12
July 2, 2014 1:28:11 PM
Durfurbrains247
July 2, 2014 2:12:50 PM
Mustangrock12 said:
I don't think you even came close to starting war, he basically insulted you.Ya o well, aside from all of that, my question for you is this, do you think i would be better of to try to sell my current mobo and cpu and make the jump to haswell while people may still want to buy an ivy bridge?
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