GTX 760/660 with Side pin connection rather than top?

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

Hello. This is my first time posting on these forums, so I'm sorry if I posted in the wrong section or anything like that.

Anyway, I was having a million different problems with my HIS R9 270. I've tried just about every possible solution known to man, and I would constantly get the blue screen while watching videos or hang up during games, so I RMA'd it for a refund.

While I've had good luck with Radeon in the past, this experience has sort of made me steer away from them for the time being, thus I am looking at the Nvidia side of things.

I had really had my heart set on the GTX 760. After spending hours debating over which model I wanted, I find out that these cards power cables get plugged into the top of the card. This creates a problem for me, because my power supply (Corsair cx 600w) has EXTREMELY stiff casing over the cables. I did a mockup to see exactly how bad the stiffness would effect me, and there is almost no wiggle room. The cable sticks straight up, and would stick directly into my giant side panel case fan.

I've come here to ask if anyone is aware of any GTX 760 graphics cards that have their pin connection on the side of the card, rather than on the top. At this point, I would even be willing to settle for a GTX 660 card if one can be found that has the pins on the side of the card, rather than top. I would really, really, reallllly prefer to not go anything lower than a 660 in terms of power.

Below is an example of the problem I'm talking about.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10484972_753194321367948_895578132298968578_n.jpg

As shown above, the power connection is on the top of the card. My Power supply has braided casing over them, along with long rubber stoppers that make the cables very stiff and stand straight, rather than bendy. Is anyone aware of any gtx 760, OR 660 cards that plug into the side, similar to this? I would be more than willing to settle for a 660 if a solution can be found, but would absolutely prefer to not drop under that range. I would need a card similar to the one below, purely in the sense of where the 6pin connector is located on the card.

http://www.hisdigital.com/UserFiles/product/H270F2GD_02_400.jpg

Thank you for any help in advance.

TheMentalist · Jul 3, 2014

Use a VGA power extension cable, works with any video card. NZXT 6-6+2 VGA http://www.amazon.com/CB-8V-Individually-Sleeved-Extension-Premium/dp/B0036ORCL2/

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

TheMentalist :

Thanks for your reply. That looks a lot like the cables that come with the card that I'm looking at

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130949&cm_re=gtx_760-_-14-130-949-_-Product

What sort of confused me about these cables was the fact that you plug the two 6 pins into it, and they converge into one plug. That one plug doesn't look like it would fit all of the connection slots of the card. Doe sit not need to fill each hole? Or am I over thinking this?

TheMentalist · Jul 3, 2014

That cable is more of a adapter than a extension. It will convert two 6 pins to one 8 pin, the one that is left over is for a 6 pin. I like ASUS theirs implementation the best, just one 8 pin http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121775

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

TheMentalist :

Another issue I'm having is that I had this computer built through Cyberpower (I know, everyone is going to hang me for this rather than building one myself lol) but anyway, they did a really great job of wiring it. Almost too good, because the card that I ordered only required a 1 6 pin connector, and the other available 6 pin connector from my psu was wired together and kinda tucked away, in the backside area of the case, making it very hard to get to.

The one available six pin connector I have, also has a 2 pin connector dangling from it's side. If I were to simply plug the 6 pin and the 2 pin into the 8 pin adapter, would that be sufficient enough to power the card?

I did have my heart set on the evga. I'm sure I'm a sucker for marketing, but the acx cooling on that card really lured me in. However, that card seems to have an awful lot of pins compared to the asus one you have linked me. Would I be able to use the evga with JUST my 6 pin+2pin cable with any sort of adapter? Or would digging out that second 6pin+2pin cable be required? If so, I will probably lean towards the asus solution.

TheMentalist · Jul 3, 2014

For the ASUS one, a single 6+2 pin work.

EVGA one requires 8 pin and a 6 pin to work. (Actually the single 8 pin plugged in should work, but i'm not 100% sure so i wouldn't take the risk)

Your power supply doesn't have two 6+2 pins? Go with ASUS then. btw what psu do you have?

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

My power supply does have two 6+2 pins, however the company that assembled my computer tied the second one up with other cables and kind of tucked it behind the back plate since it wasn't used at the time of assembly, and to avoid clutter. It's there, but to cut the tie and get it out would be a really huge hassle. My power supply is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028&cm_re=corsair_cx600-_-17-139-028-_-Product

TheMentalist · Jul 3, 2014

Well i can tell you that both ASUS and EVGA cards are great. If you want to go with the EVGA one try to remove the 6+2 pin from your back plate. If it's too hard go with asus OR see if you can use the extension by routing it from behind to your gpu(mark the length it will take and check it back online, don't buy it yet).
See if you can remove the cable first mate, It's the best option actually.

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

The thing I'm worried about is just the sheer amount of cords that are tied together. The front of the case is nice and clutter free, but the back is a mess. I would be worried about cutting the ties and then having a huge spillout of cords in the front. That happened on an older set up I had, and it crated a lot of unnecessary heat issues. You're definitely right, though. If I could manage to free the extra cords that would indeed be optimal.

So far I'm leaning towards the asus, simply for the sake of not having to excavate my computer. If I were to go with the Asus, my single 6+2pin would be enough to power it using the included adapter?

Also, while I have you - I have an off topic question, if you wouldn't mind (Since you obviously seem to know your stuff)

Since I will be RMA'ing this card, I'll be stuck using the integrated graphics. My Processor is an Intel i5 4690. It's specs list that it has an integrated Intel HD 4600. I know that's essentially nothing in terms of power, but I figure that would be enough to get me through the day until my replacement arrives. However, when I use my integrated chipset - it doesn't list as being an hd 4600. In dxdiag it's listed as "HSW desktop chipset" and when I try to update the drivers in update manager, it says I have the up to date ones (Which list as 2006, so I'm finding that hard to believe). When I run windows performance test it gets a 1 rating. This sounds to me like I'm not actually getting the full benefit of it, but rather some shell of what it is. I would almost be afraid to even try running a flash video with that kind of rating

TheMentalist · Jul 3, 2014

Your 6+2 pin cable won't need an adapter, it will work without it(if the power is good for the card, a green led is turn on).

Don't use windows driver updater, download the standalone driver pack from intel and install it. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Desktop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=4th+Generation+Intel%C2%AE+Core%E2%84%A2+Processors+with+Intel%C2%AE+HD+Graphics+4600&ProdId=3720&LineId=1100&FamilyId=39
(select your os version from the download page)
Do make a restore point before making system changes.

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

TheMentalist :

The issue I'm having, though, is that the cards 8 pin connectors are on the top of the card. My PSU Cables have a braided casing over them, and a thick rubber wrap around the end of them, and when I angle them in a way that would plug into the top - the cards stick straight up and stick far enough that it would be hitting my side fans blades.

Here's a very crude example

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||is the graphics card, -- is the power cable, and {} is the fan

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

Ok, I finally have pictures to show exactly what I'm talking about. I know I didn't do a very good job of explaining.

This is a picture of my power supply cable problem. If I were to plug it into a card with a top pin connector, it sticks out too high, due to the rubber at the end and the mesh coating.

http://s29.postimg.org/ho7hrn8mf/toohigh.png

This is my case fan. The distance between where the graphics card sits and the blade gets exceeded by the length that my cables stick out, and they would stick right into the case fan.

http://s29.postimg.org/ajpoim1d3/fan.png

The Builder · Jul 3, 2014

How about getting some Bitfenix Alchemy sleeved extensions like these:

They are way more flexible.

RastislavB · Jul 3, 2014

You can get the Bitfenix ones, they have some really nice sleeving.

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

The Builder :

Those look perfect. Can you link me to a 6pin to 8pin version of that? I can only seem to find fan extensions of that brand.

Just to reiterate: So using a single 6 pin cable to power an 8 pin card using an 6 to 8 pin adapter will work without issues?

The Builder · Jul 3, 2014

Alchemy 8-Pin PCI-E Ext.

Alchemy 6-Pin PCI-E Ext.

TheMentalist · Jul 3, 2014

Yeah your best option now is the extension. That should work out.

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

Ok, so with those extensions I would plug my 6 pin plus the little 2 pin that's hanging off of it in, and that should act the same as if using an 8 pin? Sorry I've only ever needed to use the 6 pins for g-cards before. New to the 8 pin side of things

RastislavB · Jul 3, 2014

8 pin = 6 + 2 pin if your card requires 8 pin then you use 6 + 2.

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

I know the 6+2pin is 8 pins, but as my above picture shows my psu cabels are way too hard and stiff, and stick right into my case fan. That's why I'm asking about the adapters, since those seem to be much more flexible.

I actually went up to Best Buy today and got a gtx 660... But the adapter that was prepackaged with the card did not fit in the 8 pin slot. It was the right type of plug, but it was just completely lose and did not latch what so ever.. So stressful haha.

TheMentalist · Jul 3, 2014

Which card did you get mate?

Draydince · Jul 3, 2014

I got this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-geforce-gtx-660-2gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card/6820043.p?id=1218808244387&skuId=6820043&st=evga%20gtx%20660&cp=1&lp=1

I don't want to start a witch hunt or anything, but it honestly felt like it was one that someone had returned and they repackaged for sale. The adapters pins were crooked/bent, and it just slid right out of the cards input. It didn't catch at all. :\

As you suggested earlier in this thread, I was highly considering getting that Asus gtx 760 you linked me http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121775&cm_re=asus_gtx_760-_-14-121-775-_-Product but I am a bit concerned. It's got mostly positive reviews on Newegg, 5 eggs being the most common rating. However, the 2nd highest rating was 1 eggs, and nearly every 1 egg rating mentions that the card has caught fire! Sounds like this model in particular could potentially be faulty. I tend to take negative reviews with a grain of salt when there's more positive reviews over it, but when multiple people are saying the same thing it brings up a warning flag.

The other card that I'm considering at the moment is this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127772&cm_re=msi_gtx_760-_-14-127-772-_-Product it has the single 8 pin connection that I'm looking for. I can't quite tell in the picture provided, but it looks like it has an 8 pin to 8 pin adapter. Would I be able to plug my 6+2 into one end, and then from there power the card? The adapter looks like it would be flexible enough to avoid my beforementioned problem. I feel like my search is nearing a potential end haha.

TheMentalist · Jul 4, 2014

Is that evga card you got working good for you? How are you powering it now? The extension cable you received with it is using molex connectors, these are the worst to work with, they bend pretty easily.

I'm am using two of those asus cards i recommended you, no problems for me so far. But hardware failure isn't something new, it happens from product to product. The msi card is a decent one, you should be able to power it with the extension cable.

Draydince · Jul 4, 2014

TheMentalist :

I actually didn't get a chance to use the card because of the faulty adapter. I tried plugging it directly into the psu but the stiff cable forced it's way into the fan like I thought it would. so short of replacing my entire psu I'm pretty much forced to use an adapter, and bound to a single 8 pin connected card. I think those asus and msi cards are the only 760s that don't require multiple inputs. I really like the Asus for the sake of dual fans, and being cheaper than the msi - but those reports of it catching fire still have me on edge.

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