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July 3, 2014 2:19:02 PM

Hey guys i currently have a AMD FX-6300 with a crap MSI 970-g43 motherboard i got for $60 at the time. I have come across some cash and was wanting to know if i would see a big performance increase If i upgraded to a i7 4770k/4790k.And also i know there is no such thing as future proofing but how long will the i7 4770k hold up into the future if i did upgrade it. I was thinking it would be good more along the lines of 2-3 years.
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July 3, 2014 2:25:22 PM

DEMDEAD said:
Hey guys i currently have a AMD FX-6300 with a crap MSI 970-g43 motherboard i got for $60 at the time. I have come across some cash and was wanting to know if i would see a big performance increase If i upgraded to a i7 4770k/4790k.And also i know there is no such thing as future proofing but how long will the i7 4770k hold up into the future if i did upgrade it. I was thinking it would be good more along the lines of 2-3 years.


I used to have an FX-8320, and now that I have a 4770K, it is great, BUT it is not too much of an upgrade. RAM performance doubles and can support much higher frequency, so effectively triples. That would last for a long while. You could save up maybe $600 for an upgrade to 5th generation Broadwell.
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July 3, 2014 2:25:40 PM

DEMDEAD said:
Hey guys i currently have a AMD FX-6300 with a crap MSI 970-g43 motherboard i got for $60 at the time. I have come across some cash and was wanting to know if i would see a big performance increase If i upgraded to a i7 4770k/4790k.And also i know there is no such thing as future proofing but how long will the i7 4770k hold up into the future if i did upgrade it. I was thinking it would be good more along the lines of 2-3 years.

Hi. I am running an i7 4770k and feel like I am good to go for some time to come. You will notice a difference for sure. :) 
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July 3, 2014 2:25:49 PM

you will see a huge difference. go with the 4790k, thats what i am upgrading to right away
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July 3, 2014 2:39:36 PM

BradleyJames said:
you will see a huge difference. go with the 4790k, thats what i am upgrading to right away


Not that much difference between that and the i7 4770k, at least to justify the difference in cost.
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July 3, 2014 2:41:12 PM

BradleyJames said:
you will see a huge difference. go with the 4790k, thats what i am upgrading to right away


Not a huge difference. I definitely like my 4770k more than my 8320, but to justify that much more money, eh, no. The 4790K is also not for gaming, the 4690K is the same.
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July 3, 2014 3:13:24 PM

Andrew Buck said:
BradleyJames said:
you will see a huge difference. go with the 4790k, thats what i am upgrading to right away


Not a huge difference. I definitely like my 4770k more than my 8320, but to justify that much more money, eh, no. The 4790K is also not for gaming, the 4690K is the same.


So you say the i7 4770k/47790k is not for gaming. and when you say the same for the i5 4690k. you cant mean its not for gaming because it is. and i would upgrade to an i5 because i see no sense in that. i wanted to know how long the i7 4770/4790k would last due to more game utilizing threads and i know i would see an increase since intel just has overall better processors. I just want to know wheter r not this will be a worthwhile move in the long run of things.
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July 3, 2014 3:33:36 PM

Honestly, AMD has given up on any more FX like capable systems. While some try to argue the latest APU (A10) is perfectly fine for gaming or such, I still seen the numbers show it tanks hard as compared to any of the iCore series when we are considering the minimal FPS you WILL get in a game with a APU as compared to a iCore. That said, 2013, Intel made the announcement, HASWELL IS THE FINAL DESKTOP CHIPSET TO EVER BE PRODUCED. They are no longer producing anything else for desktop market once Haswell hits its end of life in a couple years.

So for everyone on desktop, the answer seems either shell out 2x the money for a serious gaming laptop, or go Console. SIGH!
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July 3, 2014 3:52:15 PM

DEMDEAD said:
Andrew Buck said:
BradleyJames said:
you will see a huge difference. go with the 4790k, thats what i am upgrading to right away


Not a huge difference. I definitely like my 4770k more than my 8320, but to justify that much more money, eh, no. The 4790K is also not for gaming, the 4690K is the same.


So you say the i7 4770k/47790k is not for gaming. and when you say the same for the i5 4690k. you cant mean its not for gaming because it is. and i would upgrade to an i5 because i see no sense in that. i wanted to know how long the i7 4770/4790k would last due to more game utilizing threads and i know i would see an increase since intel just has overall better processors. I just want to know wheter r not this will be a worthwhile move in the long run of things.


OKay. I was just over at Newegg and they have the 17 4770k Haswell and 17 4790k Devils Canyon at the same price od $339.99. The devils Canyon would be the choice, no brainer. Save $100 and go with the i5 4690k.
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July 3, 2014 4:11:03 PM

Tom Tancredi said:
Honestly, AMD has given up on any more FX like capable systems. While some try to argue the latest APU (A10) is perfectly fine for gaming or such, I still seen the numbers show it tanks hard as compared to any of the iCore series when we are considering the minimal FPS you WILL get in a game with a APU as compared to a iCore. That said, 2013, Intel made the announcement, HASWELL IS THE FINAL DESKTOP CHIPSET TO EVER BE PRODUCED. They are no longer producing anything else for desktop market once Haswell hits its end of life in a couple years.

So for everyone on desktop, the answer seems either shell out 2x the money for a serious gaming laptop, or go Console. SIGH!


Im sorry for anything that might offend you, but WHAT IN THE LIVING HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!

here you go read this you sorry excuse for someone to refer anything to anyone. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9247076/Intel_39...

Like huh. maybe i misread everything you just said but it sounded to me as you just said intel wont be making desktop cpus have you gone mad that is there market. unless they want someone else coming up to steal it the will continue my friend. isnt that just the damnedest thing to here.,
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July 3, 2014 4:34:07 PM

DEMDEAD said:
Tom Tancredi said:
Honestly, AMD has given up on any more FX like capable systems. While some try to argue the latest APU (A10) is perfectly fine for gaming or such, I still seen the numbers show it tanks hard as compared to any of the iCore series when we are considering the minimal FPS you WILL get in a game with a APU as compared to a iCore. That said, 2013, Intel made the announcement, HASWELL IS THE FINAL DESKTOP CHIPSET TO EVER BE PRODUCED. They are no longer producing anything else for desktop market once Haswell hits its end of life in a couple years.

So for everyone on desktop, the answer seems either shell out 2x the money for a serious gaming laptop, or go Console. SIGH!


Im sorry for anything that might offend you, but WHAT IN THE LIVING HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!

here you go read this you sorry excuse for someone to refer anything to anyone. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9247076/Intel_39...

Like huh. maybe i misread everything you just said but it sounded to me as you just said intel wont be making desktop cpus have you gone mad that is there market. unless they want someone else coming up to steal it the will continue my friend. isnt that just the damnedest thing to here.,


Hmmmm, now that is interesting as i guess Devils Canyon doesn't exist, except in Newegg ads. The I guess Broadwell will only be a figment of someones imagination. Can't believe I read that.
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July 3, 2014 4:44:34 PM

coastie65 said:
DEMDEAD said:
Tom Tancredi said:
Honestly, AMD has given up on any more FX like capable systems. While some try to argue the latest APU (A10) is perfectly fine for gaming or such, I still seen the numbers show it tanks hard as compared to any of the iCore series when we are considering the minimal FPS you WILL get in a game with a APU as compared to a iCore. That said, 2013, Intel made the announcement, HASWELL IS THE FINAL DESKTOP CHIPSET TO EVER BE PRODUCED. They are no longer producing anything else for desktop market once Haswell hits its end of life in a couple years.

So for everyone on desktop, the answer seems either shell out 2x the money for a serious gaming laptop, or go Console. SIGH!


Im sorry for anything that might offend you, but WHAT IN THE LIVING HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!

here you go read this you sorry excuse for someone to refer anything to anyone. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9247076/Intel_39...

Like huh. maybe i misread everything you just said but it sounded to me as you just said intel wont be making desktop cpus have you gone mad that is there market. unless they want someone else coming up to steal it the will continue my friend. isnt that just the damnedest thing to here.,


Hmmmm, now that is interesting as i guess Devils Canyon doesn't exist, except in Newegg ads. The I guess Broadwell will only be a figment of someones imagination. Can't believe I read that.


never said devils canyon wasn't real its very real. that is what the i7 4790k is. -_-

however i was talking to the above guy who said intel will stop making desktop cpu's when clearly they have plans for Broadwell a 14nm cpu for desktops and laptops.
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July 3, 2014 4:49:40 PM

i7-4790K has hyper-threading. i5-4690K does not.

Games do not benefit from hyper-threading, video-editing, streaming, 3d-rendering, etc. do benefit from hyper-threading.

If you are only going to play games, save $100 and get the i5-4590K which is the best processor for gaming.
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July 3, 2014 4:54:04 PM

DEMDEAD said:
Tom Tancredi said:
Honestly, AMD has given up on any more FX like capable systems. While some try to argue the latest APU (A10) is perfectly fine for gaming or such, I still seen the numbers show it tanks hard as compared to any of the iCore series when we are considering the minimal FPS you WILL get in a game with a APU as compared to a iCore. That said, 2013, Intel made the announcement, HASWELL IS THE FINAL DESKTOP CHIPSET TO EVER BE PRODUCED. They are no longer producing anything else for desktop market once Haswell hits its end of life in a couple years.

So for everyone on desktop, the answer seems either shell out 2x the money for a serious gaming laptop, or go Console. SIGH!


Im sorry for anything that might offend you, but WHAT IN THE LIVING HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!

here you go read this you sorry excuse for someone to refer anything to anyone. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9247076/Intel_39...

Like huh. maybe i misread everything you just said but it sounded to me as you just said intel wont be making desktop cpus have you gone mad that is there market. unless they want someone else coming up to steal it the will continue my friend. isnt that just the damnedest thing to here.,


http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-ceases-motherboa...
and I quote
"Intel has released a statement in which it announces that it will be leaving the design and manufacturing of desktop motherboards, leaving the field open for other motherboard manufacturers to fill in the gaps.



Intel just announced that, over the next three years, it will slowly ramp down its motherboard business, shuttering it completely before the rest of the industry shifts to Broadwell-based platforms.

As the company pulls away from the motherboard market, it says it will divert resources elsewhere, focusing on other aspects of the PC industry, such as reference designs for Ultrabooks and all-in-ones, along with its Next Unit of Computing (NUC), which it showed off prominently at CES. Engineering talent previously dedicated to motherboard design will shift to those other form factors, which the company believes represent bigger growth opportunities.

This process is scheduled to wrap up between the Haswell and Broadwell processor generations. After that, Intel won't be selling any more branded desktop motherboards, "

So that is what I am talking about. Apparently you missed the news that was all over the place last year. Most AMD fanboys were laughing saying see Intel was tossing in the towel and thought at CES / E3 then AMD would launch a new FX type line, but instead AMD did the same thing (as I mentioned) and went with the APU model as well. Even in 2014 CES and E3 still the same news, both manufacturers are ditching desktops (consider they make up only 25% of PC sales anyway) for the main Laptop, Tablet, Phablet, Smart Phone platforms (Windows 9 will work across all platforms according to the latest releases, and will 'identify' the hardware to provide the right 'interface' before Microsoft drops the Windows OS completely with Windows X which will be, like Android and iOS, a 'light' OS to get to the Online APPS only).
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July 3, 2014 5:00:56 PM

DEMDEAD said:
coastie65 said:
DEMDEAD said:
Tom Tancredi said:
Honestly, AMD has given up on any more FX like capable systems. While some try to argue the latest APU (A10) is perfectly fine for gaming or such, I still seen the numbers show it tanks hard as compared to any of the iCore series when we are considering the minimal FPS you WILL get in a game with a APU as compared to a iCore. That said, 2013, Intel made the announcement, HASWELL IS THE FINAL DESKTOP CHIPSET TO EVER BE PRODUCED. They are no longer producing anything else for desktop market once Haswell hits its end of life in a couple years.

So for everyone on desktop, the answer seems either shell out 2x the money for a serious gaming laptop, or go Console. SIGH!


Im sorry for anything that might offend you, but WHAT IN THE LIVING HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!

here you go read this you sorry excuse for someone to refer anything to anyone. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9247076/Intel_39...

Like huh. maybe i misread everything you just said but it sounded to me as you just said intel wont be making desktop cpus have you gone mad that is there market. unless they want someone else coming up to steal it the will continue my friend. isnt that just the damnedest thing to here.,


Hmmmm, now that is interesting as i guess Devils Canyon doesn't exist, except in Newegg ads. The I guess Broadwell will only be a figment of someones imagination. Can't believe I read that.


never said devils canyon wasn't real its very real. that is what the i7 4790k is. -_-

however i was talking to the above guy who said intel will stop making desktop cpu's when clearly they have plans for Broadwell a 14nm cpu for desktops and laptops.


I know you were. I was just adding my bit of sarcasm to what you had already said. When I said I couldn't believe i read that, I was referring to his post about the demise Intel desktop Processors after Haswell.
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July 3, 2014 7:52:29 PM

if you want to future proof, go with the 4790k, you can overclock later also. game now are using alot more cpu than they used too, watchdogs for example. i also have quite a few things running in the background when im gaming, so the extra power really comes in handy. im running 2 gtx 780 tis in sli, and i dont think an i5 4690k would be enough for those 2 cards and background programs.
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