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July 3, 2014 8:31:39 PM

This is my current set up idea, I had some help from a friend but wanted more opinions. My hope is to replace my gaming systems with a desktop I can plug right into my bedroom or living room tv and play whatever I want.

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0

MSI Z87-G45 Gaming LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Pro Gaming with Killer Networking & Sound Blaster Intel Motherboard

XFX Double D FX-787A-CDFC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

SILVERSTONE Strider Gold S Series ST75F-GS 750W ATX 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell Quad-Core 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670K

Crucial M550 CT256M550SSD1 2.5" 256GB SATA 6Gb/s MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-8GTX

Seagate Hybrid Drive ST2000DX001 2TB MLC/8GB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s NCQ 3.5" Desktop SSHD

Corsair Vengeance K95 CH-9000020-NA Black/Metal USB Wired Gaming Mechanical Keyboard (NA)

Logitech Trackman Marble 910-000806 Gray USB Wired Optical Mouse

Logitech G930 USB Connector Circumaural Wireless Gaming Headset

Pioneer Blu-ray Burner SATA BDR-209DBK

Cooler Master Hyper N520 - CPU Cooler with Copper Base and 5 Heatpipes

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July 3, 2014 8:37:48 PM

Get low profile ram.
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July 3, 2014 8:39:06 PM

Get Z97 and 4690K

Don't get hybrid drive if you have large SSD, just get a normal HDD

getting the newer R9 270 may be cheaper

you may want to get a better GPU at the expense of other parts (eg: downgrade to FX 6300 or 8320 and get a 280)
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July 3, 2014 9:22:23 PM

SR-71 Blackbird said:
Get low profile ram.


Why low profile ram when I have

G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-8GTX
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July 3, 2014 9:37:20 PM

Alpha3031 said:
Get Z97 and 4690K

Don't get hybrid drive if you have large SSD, just get a normal HDD

getting the newer R9 270 may be cheaper

you may want to get a better GPU at the expense of other parts (eg: downgrade to FX 6300 or 8320 and get a 280)


Get Z97= completly agree

4690K=why?

Don't get hybrid drive if you have large SSD, just get a normal = why?

getting the newer R9 270 may be cheaper= which peice are you referring to?

you may want to get a better GPU at the expense of other parts (eg: downgrade to FX 6300 or 8320 and get a 280)= what gpu would you suggest?
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July 3, 2014 9:43:51 PM

4690k has better TIM (will be cooler at high OCs)

If you have a large SSD, the other drive would be for files, yes? So it won't take much time to load (you can put your large files (big photos etc) on another drive

R9 270 is a new GPU and a re brand of the 7870 with a small OC

R9 280
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July 3, 2014 10:02:55 PM

added
MSI Gaming N760 TF 4GD5/OC GeForce GTX 760 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card
and switched
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Pro Gaming with Killer Networking & Sound Blaster Intel Motherboard
for
MSI Z97-G45 Gaming LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
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July 4, 2014 2:30:58 AM

760 isn't much better.
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July 5, 2014 5:17:50 PM

Alpha3031 said:
760 isn't much better.


what would you suggest?
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July 5, 2014 9:30:15 PM

R9 280 or 270X
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July 5, 2014 10:04:58 PM

I would suggest getting something slightly higher than a 7870 and the i5 if you can afford it. I have an i7 and regularly max it when rendering panoramas in photoshop or converting movies. Even battlefield 4 can come up to around 70 percent usage on my i7 (3770) and thus it might be advantageous to get a better cpu. My 7870 hawk is still kicking butt (60+ fps average, 54 fps minimum on bf4 non mantle ultra w/ no aa, 40fps with same settings and a resolution of 4800x1080) but I can see it having problems in the future. I would suggest getting a non xfx card because I have had problems with their coolers and something from gigabyte (three fan cooler) or msi might be a little better, but I would still recommend getting something a little more powerful right now.

Could you please share you estimated price point that you would like to stay in?

As a final recommendation from my own experience, skip the hybrid hard drive, and I know this is going to sound crazy, but use a ssd cache. I have 2x1tb hdd in my system in a raid 0 with a 40gb ssd cache. I get 190mb a sec sustained reads, and super fast access to commonly used files. The difference is that for something like an extra 30 dollars compared to the standard 2tb hdd you mentioned, you are going to get the same storage, but it should be faster, and it will also have 5 times the ssd cache,, and the ssd cache is faster. 40gb ssds are very cheap right now. If you need any help with setting this up, just say so. Unless you really absolutely need the ssd speed consistently in everything, I would go with this option, and then put the saved money towards the graphics card and cpu.

I think that you don't need close to that psu for what you are doing. My system is as follows:
core i7-3770
7870 Hawk OCed to 1250/1450
16gb of ram
3 7200 rpm hdds
1ssd
2dvd drivesd
various pcie cards

Even with all this stuff above, I don't have much need for a psu stronger than the 460 that is currently in there, but if you really want to future proof you system for pretty much every computer that you ever have, it wouldn't be that bad of an option. Personal comment: Corsair has treated me well so I would recommend them.

As a final comment, get a wd blue drive. I have a seagate and a wd blue. The blue runs quieter, and also uses 1tb platters so the read speeds are faster than my double disk 1tb seagate (which i think the 1tb seagates still are, correct me if I am wrong) and they roughly cost the same. Plus they run just a little cooler.
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July 6, 2014 2:39:11 AM

The i5 and i7 have similar performance.
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August 4, 2014 9:06:01 PM

Sorry I didn't have internet for awhile, I'm trying to stay under 2 grand; and I did switch to an MSI card over the XFX.
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