G3258 vs 760k Gaming system advice.

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I need helping to decide what path to go for a gaming upgrade for single monitor 1920x1080 and with med to high settings @30-60fps.
Choice #1:
AMD 760K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113348
Asrock 88X board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157516
Asus R9 270x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121802
Corsair memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233180
Choice #2:
Intel G3258 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117374
Asrock z97 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157528
Asus 750ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121855
Corsair memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

It seems that the intel chip may overclock a bit higher and may be faster in some games (dual core). The 760k can overclock almost as high and is a real quad core for the games that can use it.
The costs are similar due to the higher priced intel board needed for overclocking so I am having a hard time choosing but the 760k seems to be the all around best bet unless I am missing something.

As far as the graphics go the 750ti seems to be the minimum but has limited overclocking ability vs the R9 270x. It also seems the reviews favor the R9 270x over the 750ti but none of them are paired with these two budget CPU's so I have no idea where the bottleneck would be.

It also seems like a closer jump from the R9 270x to a R9 280 in price than a 750ti to a 760 so I can lean heavier on the graphics card.

That poses two other questions will a overclocked 760k (4-4.5) bottle neck a overclocked R9 270 or R9 280? Or will a overclocked G3238 (4-4.5) bottleneck a 750ti or a 760?

Any advice would be appreciated.
 
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Like I said, the bottlenecking will be different for EVERY GAME. A game like skyrim with graphics mods will favor the Pentium. SO much so that you could use a gtx780 without a bottleneck more than likely. In the SAME scenario, the 760k would start to bottleneck cards as early as the gtx760. In other games that favor cores vs. per core power, it will goo 100% the other way.

You will NEVER find a solid answer to this, or even a benchmark that roughly gets bottlenecks for these 2 correct because it is 10000% situation biased. It REALLY depends which games you plan to play more.

If it was me, I would get the Pentium, and I usually favor AMD. If that helps.
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The real issue here is that the intel motherboard has the ability to go up to an i5 or i7 for an upgrade, but with the AMD setup, you are stuck with no upgrade path.

The better CPU REALLY depend son the game. Skyrim? The Pentium will beat the AMD by almost 100% and be WAY better. Skyrim HATES AMD and even an 8350 loses to an i3. But what about BF4? The AMD will easily get way more FPS in multiplayer as BF4 REALLY like 4 cores vs. 2.

It all depends on the games you want to play.
 
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I don't plan on upgrading the CPU, I want the budget CPU that will not bottleneck a R9 270/280 or a 750ti/760.
If I upgrade it will be the whole platform again CPU/Board/Ram/GPU. I am upgrading from a Core2/I7 920 with a 560ti 1gb.

The Intel build with a 760 card is $519.99 and the AMD build with a R9 280 is $417.99 so it seems like the best gaming bang for the buck when you consider overclocking. I suspect the G3258 may bottleneck the 760 more often than the 760K will the R9 280 would. I also don't care about power consumption or noise/heat and have a pair of 212+'s with dual fans already.

Has anyone done a review of these two showing at what graphics card they start to bottleneck?
The G3258 review they did here was with some over the top card so it does not help finding the "Sweet spot".
 
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That article shows a non Z97 board and a older 750k and A85x not the newer 760K and A88X as well as using a GTX Titan that no one would pair them with. The use of the Titan also does not address what would happen if the GPU can not just overpower the game rather than rely on the CPU.
 
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Like I said, the bottlenecking will be different for EVERY GAME. A game like skyrim with graphics mods will favor the Pentium. SO much so that you could use a gtx780 without a bottleneck more than likely. In the SAME scenario, the 760k would start to bottleneck cards as early as the gtx760. In other games that favor cores vs. per core power, it will goo 100% the other way.

You will NEVER find a solid answer to this, or even a benchmark that roughly gets bottlenecks for these 2 correct because it is 10000% situation biased. It REALLY depends which games you plan to play more.

If it was me, I would get the Pentium, and I usually favor AMD. If that helps.
 
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I think this is a coin toss .
Probably I'd buy the cheaper combo .

I also wouldnt limit myself to AMD/AMD or Intel/Nvidia
The nvidia graphics cards will work perfectly well in an AMD system .
So again ,I would buy the graphics card based on price/performance and not brand
 
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