CELERON OVERCLOCKING SUCCESS!!! (and problem)

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You will not believe what I have done.
I decided to BSEL mod my Celeron 4 (P4 variant Celeron) that I had on my desk for a LONG time. Pulled out the P4 2.4GHZ and plopped in the 2GHZ celeron. I knew it had a very low FSB, so I tried BSEL 0 & 1 low first. It ran slower than normal. I proceeded to use Bsel0 low Bsel1 High and got a regular 2GHZ. Then tried Bsel0 High Bsel1 Low and got 2.66GHZ. Not bad but not enough to make up for the less cache on the Celeron. I then thought, hmmm that P4 had 800MHZ FSB yet no configuration matches it... what if I try BOTH pins high (marked as reserved/disabled). I expected 3.0GHZ , but got 4GHZ!!! NOT JOKING! 100% overclock. Everything runs great but Firefox, its real buggy. I may need to bump up the vcore with a VID mod, but dont know which one.

Proof its REALLY overclocked that much here:
OUTPUT FROM DMIDECODE (Linux Command)

Handle 0x0004, DMI type 4, 35 bytes
Processor Information
Socket Designation: J2E1
Type: Central Processor
Family: Celeron
Manufacturer: Intel
ID: 29 0F 00 00 FF FB EB BF
Signature: Type 0, Family 15, Model 2, Stepping 9
Flags:
FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip)
VME (Virtual mode extension)
DE (Debugging extension)
PSE (Page size extension)
TSC (Time stamp counter)
MSR (Model specific registers)
PAE (Physical address extension)
MCE (Machine check exception)
CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported)
APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported)
SEP (Fast system call)
MTRR (Memory type range registers)
PGE (Page global enable)
MCA (Machine check architecture)
CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported)
PAT (Page attribute table)
PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension)
CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported)
DS (Debug store)
ACPI (ACPI supported)
MMX (MMX technology supported)
FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore)
SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions)
SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2)
SS (Self-snoop)
HTT (Hyper-threading technology)
TM (Thermal monitor supported)
PBE (Pending break enabled)
Version: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU processor
Voltage: 3.3 V 2.9 V
External Clock: 200 MHz
Max Speed: 4000 MHz
Current Speed: 4000 MHz
Status: Populated, Enabled
Upgrade: Socket 478
L1 Cache Handle: 0x0005
L2 Cache Handle: 0x0006
L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided
Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Asset Tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Part Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.



/proc/cpuinfo still thinks its 2GHZ

# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 15
model : 2
model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz
stepping : 9
cpu MHz : 1995.190
cache size : 128 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up pebs bts cid xtpr
bogomips : 3990.38
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 128
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:


Can anyone tell me what the VCore should be?
Current VCore is about 1.5? Not sure, will reboot and edit.
 
I believe that a Netburst Celeron held the world record for the fastest rate at which a microprocessor accomplished absolutely nothing. The lack of cache blows the instruction miss rate through the roof so hitting 4+ Ghz on one is trivially simple because it stalls out so often. Many were able to hit 7 Ghz on exotic cooling and I believe that the world record for the highest clock frequency was held by a Celeron for a while (indeed I think it's still in second place, beat out by an FX-8350 with 6 out of 8 cores disabled)
 

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I figured it out. Should have followed my rule of wait a day to post, you may figure it out. Interesting fact about the Celeron, I did not know it was number one for a while. I finally decided to put my higher wattage P4 back in and leave both BSEL pins high. Instead of 2.4GHZ it was 3GHZ and rock solid. Even though the voltage dipped to 1.4 it runs perfect. Hadnt considered the fact I could force the other faster. Wierd though, the FSB is actually 667 instead of 533, such a uncommon valuer. Turns out the original CPU uses more power and the voltage dips more, yet still is more stable.

I had tried the VID mod on the Celeron, but it didnt boot as the CPU was given 0 volts. I CAN boost the voltage on thr current CPU, buy why if its runs fime. That annoying fan that stays at 5kRPM all the time still keeps it room temperature. If only I could push it higher, but without a board that supports overclocking, its pretty much impossible. Wait... I could desolder the crystal controller and swap in one that allows software overclocking. I did this for a friend once, and it worked after resetting the NVRAM on his motherboard. IT was such a evil mod though, we didnt even know if it would work LOL. I will just get a new MB+CPU sometime soon, with a cheap unlocked AMD so I can push it REALLY hard. I am just experimenting for now :) Maybe if I had matched RAM sticks it would run smoother.