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July 5, 2014 10:05:49 PM

Alright before I post the specs, keep in mind that with the exception of the graphics card I want these systems to be "future-proof". Now before anyone jumps to conclusion about the processors I use....don't...I want an AMD & Intel build, even if I will not use them to their full potential, these are enthusiast grade builds...not just gaming builds. If you can't understand that don't post on this question. The i7 and 9590 (yes I know for the 100th time that it is just a very overclocked 8350, but some people would like to try it just because its like a fast car). I also know that just cause the Intel system is for gaming you are going to jump to the conclusion to get an i5...dont...those will be ignored....I want an i7 for many purposes, however I don't want to start an arguement. Also cases are decided and final. One Corsair & One NZXT build. Both full towers, both side windows. Other then that give your best suggestions.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($7.81 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($224.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB DirectCU II Video Card ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 630 Windowed Edition (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($188.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($26.97 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.04 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.04 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: NZXT RF-FX14L-OP 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.37 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: NZXT RF-FX14L-OP 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.37 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: NZXT RF-FX14L-OP 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.37 @ Amazon)
Fan Controller: NZXT SENTRY 3 Fan Controller ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: A4Tech G11-570HX-4 Wireless Optical Mouse ($25.75 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Genius SW-G2.1 1250 38W 2.1ch Speakers ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Other: G2/P2 Red Power Supply Cable Set (Individually Sleeved) ($89.99)
Other: Corsair MM200 Gaming Mouse Mat — Standard Edition ($16.99)
Other: NZXT HUE RGB Led Controller ($32.99)
Other: Logitech Gamepad F310 (Amazon) ($17.49)
Total: $2444.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($7.81 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.39 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Dual Classified ACX Video Card ($439.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 760T Black ATX Full Tower Case ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($21.80 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($123.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($23.86 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($23.86 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Purple 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Purple 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K800 Wireless Slim Keyboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Cyber Acoustics CA-3090 10W 2.1ch Speakers ($25.53 @ Amazon)
Other: NZXT HUE RGB Led Controller ($32.99)
Other: Logitech Gamepad F310 (Amazon) ($17.49)
Other: Custom Sleeving (White) ($100.00)
Total: $2348.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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July 5, 2014 10:19:33 PM

I wouldn't bother getting replacement case fans till the supplied ones were found to be lacking. And you won't need a fan controller either - use the mobo.

The FX 9 series need the absolute best of water coolers. They produce a hell of a lot of heat. Maybe add a cook top to the Phantom

I'd change mbo in the second buiold to an ASRock Z97 Extreme 6

You should get 2 x 8gb 2133 ram for the second build to help 'future proof' it.

Why are you doing two builds?

Change the gtx 770 to a 780ti in the second build - for future proofing

The Asus monitor is real nice.

The coolers come with their own Thermal Paste.

You won't need a full tower (670t) for the second build - with only one card. Try a 730T

The SSD in the second build is better and cheaper than the first build.


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July 5, 2014 10:26:37 PM

I'd probably go for a Swiftech H220 on the Intel build, don't get me wrong, my H100 works fine, but I've found that the Swiftech I used in a different build is 5-10 degrees better.
I'd probably also go with 4 x 2 sticks on Intel build for quad channel, but that's a minor OCD thing on my part.(Never mind this bit, read the CPU wrong) xD

Other than that I Like both builds, definitely future proof, well as future proof as PC's are nowadays.
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July 5, 2014 10:37:50 PM

I haven't been able to justify an AMD based build over $850 in years so will concentrate on the other.

That's a whole lotta money for a 770 build

-Unless you wear earphones during every minute of using your computer, I would recommend against the H100i. If ya must use an AIO, the the H110 is one you can be in the same room with.
-AS5 takes 200 hours of thermal cycling to cure (see AS5 web site)
-May not be a big thing to you but Asus Z87 and reportedly Z97 boards are affected by a BIOS Clock freeze Bug
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2119454/asus-z87-b...
-There are 1866 CAS 8 and 2133 CAS 9 sets at same price if interested
-The MSI and Gigabyte 770s are faster....MSI is a lot quieter and it's cheaper.
-The HX series is better than the AX series and a lot cheaper.
-27" @ 1920 x 1080 results in a pixel pitch of 83.8 .... the human eye can distinguish individual\pixels starting at about 96 dpi. Less than that and image starts to look grainy.
- You have one moderate heat output GFX card. Those fans wont have much heat to remove.

Id recommend the Phanteks Enthoo Pro with three extra fans

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


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July 5, 2014 10:38:43 PM

On a side note the Swiftech H220 are no longer sold in the US due to some patent issues. if you're here in the states, Swiftech now has some nifty watercooling kits bundling an apogee II with a res / rad

That aside, I read your whole opening paragraph about Intel and AMD build, as well as your choice for the AMD processor (it's like a Ferrari in a sense). but well, for a real Ferrari, have you considered the upcoming Haswell-E or socket 2011-3? could be fun to run an octacore on x99 chipset. I only suggest this because the AM3+ socket is 5 years old and past its prime. the CPU is fine, the chip-set lags behind
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July 5, 2014 10:47:34 PM

Wow...alot of suggestions. Thats good I love this throw them all at me I will listen to them all, before picking my best answer. I know its a hell of a lot of money but I have some very specific needs on the AMD build, not so much the Intel. How about a triple radiator for the phantom from Switech?
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July 5, 2014 10:48:02 PM

vmem said:
On a side note the Swiftech H220 are no longer sold in the US due to some patent issues. if you're here in the states, Swiftech now has some nifty watercooling kits bundling an apogee II with a res / rad

That aside, I read your whole opening paragraph about Intel and AMD build, as well as your choice for the AMD processor (it's like a Ferrari in a sense). but well, for a real Ferrari, have you considered the upcoming Haswell-E or socket 2011-3? could be fun to run an octacore on x99 chipset. I only suggest this because the AM3+ socket is 5 years old and past its prime. the CPU is fine, the chip-set lags behind


Wasn't aware of the whole Swiftech patent battle in the States, also Apogee II <3.
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July 5, 2014 10:54:56 PM

ddbtkd456 said:
(...)How about a triple radiator for the phantom from Switech?


That would most definitely keep that beast cool. <3

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July 6, 2014 12:10:10 AM

Alright I'll challange you guys. I need 2 builds....both with 27" monitors, one with Intel i5/i7 (preferably i7) and one with a FX-8350/FX-9590, as well as a Corsair 760T (Black) with the Intel processor, and whatever full tower with a side window for the AMD, the AMD needs to have 16 gb, and at least 4 terabytes worth of space....dazzle me...each computer under 1,500-2,000 dollars. Intel needs Windows 8.1 as well. The Intel build needs to have wireless keyboard, and speakers (She has a mouse already)
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July 6, 2014 1:41:25 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
I haven't been able to justify an AMD based build over $850 in years so will concentrate on the other.

That's a whole lotta money for a 770 build

-Unless you wear earphones during every minute of using your computer, I would recommend against the H100i. If ya must use an AIO, the the H110 is one you can be in the same room with.
-AS5 takes 200 hours of thermal cycling to cure (see AS5 web site)
-May not be a big thing to you but Asus Z87 and reportedly Z97 boards are affected by a BIOS Clock freeze Bug
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2119454/asus-z87-b...
-There are 1866 CAS 8 and 2133 CAS 9 sets at same price if interested
-The MSI and Gigabyte 770s are faster....MSI is a lot quieter and it's cheaper.
-The HX series is better than the AX series and a lot cheaper.
-27" @ 1920 x 1080 results in a pixel pitch of 83.8 .... the human eye can distinguish individual\pixels starting at about 96 dpi. Less than that and image starts to look grainy.
- You have one moderate heat output GFX card. Those fans wont have much heat to remove.

Id recommend the Phanteks Enthoo Pro with three extra fans

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




Drools, I actually like the Phanteks, but I want to wait for the luxe, that looks ridiculously sick.
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July 14, 2014 7:39:12 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
The Luxe is great ..... and with your build schedule, It's what I wud use..... they have two or 3 new case coming too. The Mini and the Evolve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1nPVLuWFNo


Thought about it I love everything about the luxe, except for one critical thing...the white led stripping on the inside, I've heard it has a blue tint to it.
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July 14, 2014 7:41:34 PM

It changes color....see youtube video by hardware canucks
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July 14, 2014 7:49:56 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
It changes color....see youtube video by hardware canucks


Hahaha...watched it like 12 times, I believe he even says it in there...or maybe I'm thinking of the NZXT Phantom...I've been watching case unboxings for the last 3 weeks...trying to pick out a case.
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July 26, 2014 5:49:06 PM

No one
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July 26, 2014 5:51:14 PM

Sorry I accidentally tapd the "Sumbit your answer" thingy.
BTW, no one accepted the challenge? XD
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